Avoid Aadhaar at all costs

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Huge mistake…UGEEEE
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Aadhaa...

Why aadhaar is a danger that looms and will destroy the whole country

Aadhaar is based on biometric verification coupled with manual verification as per UIDAI. So when you produce your aadhaar card for verification the verifier matches your face with that of the pic(manual verification) and you might at some places like JIO sim purchase will be asked to use your fingerprint(biometrics verification). Iris scanners are rarely available for verification. So person with a matching face and stolen fingerprints can pose as you and that will enable him to withdraw money from banks, avail subsidies, enter a place and commit crime(as you). KYC at most places just needs Aadhaar number and does not need you to match your biometrics again. That’s all it take to verify your identity, one can print the aadhaar with his own pic and your aadhaar number.

How can someone steal my biometrics?
Any tom, dick and harry is authorised for unmonitered aadhaar verification and it can happen at any small mobile recharge outlet(sim purchase) or via any private company. Paytm/Shaadi.com etc are now using Aadhaar verification. Hence, there is absolutely no control over your private data. Any one can use it to know about you and your address and details with just the number printed on the piece of paper UIDAI gave to you.

How grave is it?
Suppose a hacker steals your biometrics(you fingerprints and Iris data). You can change ATM card and PIN, not your biometrics. Once it’s stolen and sold in underworld it’s gone forever… Now it can be used to make fake aadhaar cards and used to commit crimes in your name. Aadhaar enables govts,private players,criminals & foreign hand to screw India & Indians by surveillance, exclusion, biometric id theft & war. To remind you all the data will be accumulate on a server, in case of a cyber war guess what will be the first choice of hackers?
As corporate India’s policies and and ethics go by if someone sneaks in their system and accesses the data from UIDAI, they won’t even inform the authorities for fear of bad publicity.(Refer to the latest bank passwords leaks from Yes bank/SBI)

Aadhaar now can be used as Password/PIN from any place!
Think…you use your thumb impression at a place and the malacious device stores your print on the device. You have also given your aadhaar number. That’s all needed to empty your bank account or forge a fake duplicate ID.

Surveillance
They want to control everything…your birth record, school record, marriage record, your property record, your money, EVERY DAMN THING.So government and private players suddenly get an unimaginable degree of power over you and can crush you entirely if they want. That was never possible when you had specific id cards for specific well defined needs, like passport, driving license.

Aadhaar is a piece of paper, unlike a driving licence or new chip-based passport. So all they need to duplicate is paper and a printer.For Aadhaar you simply have NOTHING. If they delete your entry or corrupt it, all systems will stop identifying you. You won’t exist according to the gov. All areas of your life will be Aadhaar linked and suddenly you will LOSE ACCESS TO ANY DAMN NORMAL PART OF LIFE. Your salary won’t get credited, your savings can’t get withdrawn, you can’t buy anything in the ‘cashless’ world, NOTHING.
A guy who’s aadhaar invalidated now has nowhere to go
https://twitter.com/DDSez/status/751437147408...12

Dictatorship
NIAI Bil of UPA and Aadhaar Act of Modi say..Only UIDAI can make complaints.You are banned to approach even judiciary! UIDAI has no obligation to help.
Aadhaar Act explicitly gave govt power to do whatever the hell it wants in name of ‘public emergency’ & national security.
BJP gov introduces the Aadhaar bill as money bill in in LokSabha where it has majority(Money bill is not discussed in Rajyasabha, where BJP doesn’t have a majority).
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/is-the-aa...
Why the gov needed to pass the bill like thieves? Coz everyone was against the bill.
Jairam Ramesh’s petition in SC regarding the same
http://thewire.in/31297/the-aadhaar-act-is-not-...

Supreme court’s decision that says aadhaar is non-mandatory document
SC’s verdict(Sep 2016) that says aadhaar is NOT mandatory AFTER Aadhaar bill
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuQrphqW8AEZE...pg

Government defying SC’s ruling:
aadhaar mandatory for IRCTC tickets
http://trak.in/tags/business/2016/07/07/irctc-i...
aadhaar mandatory for LPG subsify
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Aadhaa...
Worst now Gov forces to organ donor’s need to have aadhaar to get an organ
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/h...

The truth of all the tall claims of security and non-duplicacy of aadhaar
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/after-lord-hanuman-dog...

Analysis basically plugs data from UIDAI’s own 2012 pilot testing for false positives and negatives into proper maths. It predicts scaled at 1.2 billion, 1 in 121 biometrics will accidentally match someone.
False negatives means you got an Aadhaar, and u are in Aadhaar database, but still system fails to recognize u. Just like false +ves depriving ppl of Aadhaar, false -ves exclusion has anecdotal evidence & news reports.
As per affidavit submitted by Union Of India and Others to SC, 8 crore Aadhaar applications have been rejected so far. Still Dogs, trees and chairs have got Aadhaar.

Read this article composed based on UIDAI’s own data
http://cis-india.org/internet-governance/blog/F...

(Excerpt)
Conclusions:
We have considered the biometric identification programme of
the UIDAI, and for varying levels of population estimated the
proportion of duplicands: persons whose biometric identifiers
match that of some other person. These proportions are too
high: and indicate that the programme would badly fail to
uniquely identify individuals. The estimation depends on the
results of one experiment conducted by the UIDAI itself, and
requires the elementary knowledge of the differential calculus,
only…

False promises
BJP called aadhaar as fruad and promised to squash it if voted in power
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/Aadhaar...
http://m.firstpost.com/politics/bjp-attacks-aad...

Falsified claims of savings on DBT via aadhaar linking
http://indianexpress.com/article/business/busin...
http://www.business-standard.com/article/econom...
http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2016/03/21/i...
Don’t be fooled…There is absolutely nil benefits of Aadhaar and the cons eclipse if any.

UK voted for the party that promised to repleal the biometric IDs. They knew its evil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_Cards_Ac...

How to make fake fingerprints commercially available means.
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/i-replaced-my-...

Goodluck securing things in this digital age when the latest and the best tech is open to hackers
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/23/every_l...

P.S I have copied most of above from twitter account of https://twitter.com/Stupi...ur even though I knew the perils of Aadhaar, this guy helped me gain more insight.

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I also want to know how & why

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People like you and me should brace for more cringe-worthy times ahead. It took so much mental effort to avoid the DigiSavings 10% cashback offer and now this!

Dimers who are not aware of my full perspective on the issue might get the impression that I am against digital payments. I am NOT against digital payments, I am just averse to the intrusive and vulnerable Aadhaar system.


“Niti Aayog chief executive officer Amitabh Kant, who is heading the committee of secretaries on digital payments and is part of the panel of chief ministers on the issue, said that work is in progress on a policy to make cash transactions more expensive and incentivise people topay digitally.” (sic)

“IT secretary Aruna Sundarajan said the ministry has kept aside Rs 100 crore to incentivise enrolment of merchants on to the digital platform to help push the drive.”

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Can a Government Hospital refuse to treat patients if they do not have an adhaar card? https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif
This is real and is happening in Haryana.
Patients (except emergency cases) who do not bring their adhaar card to the hospital are being told to go back.

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cm4444 wrote:

Can a Government Hospital refuse to treat patients if they do not have an adhaar card? https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif
This is real and is happening in Haryana.
Patients (except emergency cases) who do not bring their adhaar card to the hospital are being told to go back.

You don’t need Aadhaar for anything. SC rules the same. Gov can’t bully everyone into excepting aadhaar. Aadhaar can ONLY be made voluntarily. Anyone refusing service on the basis of Aadhaar has right to file a case and would win without a doubt.

Can you post the link, I can’t find it anywhere?

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@Stupendous Man Never thought this deep. When you said Huge Mistake I could figure out that if the fingerprint is replicated then it is a serious issue casue it cannot be changed but so many vulnerabilities never crossed my mind.

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saymyname wrote:

@Stupendous Man Never thought this deep. When you said Huge Mistake I could figure out that if the fingerprint is replicated then it is a serious issue casue it cannot be changed but so many vulnerabilities never crossed my mind.

It’s not a mistake… it’s a SCAM.

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Have a little problem with aadhar but after reading your post I’m really worried now. 😓
Has no one file an PIL against it as the government made it mandatory for DBTL sheme?

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I am against intrusion to privacy but many things mentioned in the post are based on ifs and buts. Not wrong to be skeptical about such things but if it is implemented in a limited way for a greater benefit we shouldn’t doubt all govt policies. By the way don’t know if this qualifies to make an entry into your post, I have read articles (am sure even you would have) that spoke about a large no of illegal immigrants becoming legal citizens by getting an aadhar card. They are trying to give an impression that if someone has an aadhar card no other back ground checks would be necessary as aadhar has taken care of it with it’s “super power”.

1. If someone commits a digital crime in your name using your documents, you won’t be implicated with closed eyes. Even I have been summoned by police once because my DL copy was used to acquire a sim card. The constable came in a civilian dress and informed me to go the police station in my area. I went and spoke to the CI who asked me few questions and asked me to give any info (as much as I remember) as to where I had given my DL in the past. He just told me that your ID was acquired by someone to get a sim card and told me to write the date, the name of the person/organisation seeking the id on the photocopy and the purpose (he told me that no one has the right not to say no but many don’t know that).

2. When people know that something like a finger print can be replicated and there is chance of misuse then they will of course avoid that channel. I don’t think any country still has the infrastructure yet to implement such a banking system. So just the rumours of they are going to “implement” shouldn’t be taken at face value.

3. I agree that they would have access to our data, but when you we clean and have nothing to hide about your financial transactions shouldn’t be a problem. We should only be concerned if they govt tries to sell our data to data mining companies who might try to push products/services. This is not an authoritarian state and government suddenly/randomly cannot/won’t decide to “crush” us. If it becomes an authoritarian state then they won’t need aadhar details to crush their own civilians

4. What do you mean by anyone can corrupt our data and our identity is just deleted? It’s not eraser movie for someone to do that as no one except govt can delete our data. All such data will have reasonable back ups if they want to design a system that would control our very existence. This is big ‘IF’, at least in our lifetime they would most probably can’t design a system that would connect our life to this imaginary “cashless” system. It would look good only on the paper and designing such a system is cost prohibitive and inefficient. This point is really baseless.

Moreover the government to make subsidies targeted and prevent misuse of benefits to shunt SC orders is trying to ring fence aadhar. But SC has already made clear in its previous judgments that all laws made by the legislative are subject to judicial review and can be struck down. If they SC sees merits against govt trying to get innovative they will of course do it. But here the govt has no malicious intent other than to try and get some form of identification for subsidy targeting. No govt can be sure if they would come back the second term so they won’t have any personal gains from that.

By the way what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies? It’s one thing if they had tried to apply it without giving people a chance to even enroll themselves but it would save the exchequer a huge money. You know how rich someone having a gas distribution agency used to be? To even get a license for it people used to pay big money and I don’t have to tell you why? But making it mandatory for other non-trivial services is stupidity and might be a plan to force people to enroll themselves into aadhar.

Any digital system is bound to have imperfections but we shouldn’t kick it because of 1 or 2 stray incidents. You are quoting about one person (not doubting him, but not necessarily he is telling the truth?) but that shouldn’t stop us from implementing something if it benefits the large masses. When my cousin and me went to a CCD to get his DBS done the system threw that error about no such details existing. We came back home and promptly logged in to see nothing has changed (it’s a different thing that DBS executive who came home could verify it without any issues).

But I agree that they should not try to design a centralized system around this aadhar (even it has been made clear that it would exist as another ID and won’t super seed anything) which would be a huge disaster. At least we won’t be the “destined” ones to see such an implementation.

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After avoiding at all costs, I had to make my Aadhar Card this week only because **** stopped crediting Domestic Gas Subsidy and 30 Nov was last day to submit Aadhar and they were repeatedly calling. So, I did it. Now, this https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_confused.gif

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Not related entirely to this topic but I thought I would say. The govt’s move to try and force people (the lower strata, illiterates, daily wage workers etc) to use digital payments is heights of nonsense. People easily scam us so called “educated” to part with our CC/DC details and it would be a disaster for such people if they don’t stop this ‘cashless’ society non-sense. Also with the security of such things in India govt themselves should have first tried to do something about it before they try to go big on such things. Don’t quote me on this but all these banking institutions should have insurances to protect their customers and pay them back for malicious transactions. There was this article which explained why Indian banking institutions try and avoid such insurances so that they don’t have to bear additional expenses. So they always try to blame the customer at the first instance even when the information has leaked from their system.

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After avoiding at all costs, I had to make my Aadhar Card this week only because **** stopped crediting Domestic Gas Subsidy and 30 Nov was last day to submit Aadhar and they were repeatedly calling. So, I did it. Now, this https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_confused.gif

Similar problem!
almost every time i try to avoid using aadhar unless its very mandatory. some unknown fear of misuse.

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Stupendous Man wrote:

You don’t need Aadhaar for anything. SC rules the same. Gov can’t bully everyone into excepting aadhaar. Aadhaar can ONLY be made voluntarily. Anyone refusing service on the basis of Aadhaar has right to file a case and would win without a doubt.

Can you post the link, I can’t find it anywhere?

http://www.bhaskar.com/news/HAR-SONI-MAT-latest...

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ranjithsai01 wrote:

I am against intrusion to privacy but many things mentioned in the post are based on ifs and buts. Not wrong to be skeptical about such things but if it is implemented in a limited way for a greater benefit we shouldn’t doubt all govt policies. By the way don’t know if this qualifies to make an entry into your post, I have read articles (am sure even you would have) that spoke about a large no of illegal immigrants becoming legal citizens by getting an aadhar card. They are trying to give an impression that if someone has an aadhar card no other back ground checks would be necessary as aadhar has taken care of it with it’s “super power”.

1. If someone commits a digital crime in your name using your documents, you won’t be implicated with closed eyes. Even I have been summoned by police once because my DL copy was used to acquire a sim card. The constable came in a civilian dress and informed me to go the police station in my area. I went and spoke to the CI who asked me few questions and asked me to give any info (as much as I remember) as to where I had given my DL in the past. He just told me that your ID was acquired by someone to get a sim card and told me to write the date, the name of the person/organisation seeking the id on the photocopy and the purpose (he told me that no one has the right not to say no but many don’t know that).

2. When people know that something like a finger print can be replicated and there is chance of misuse then they will of course avoid that channel. I don’t think any country still has the infrastructure yet to implement such a banking system. So just the rumours of they are going to “implement” shouldn’t be taken at face value.

3. I agree that they would have access to our data, but when you we clean and have nothing to hide about your financial transactions shouldn’t be a problem. We should only be concerned if they govt tries to sell our data to data mining companies who might try to push products/services. This is not an authoritarian state and government suddenly/randomly cannot/won’t decide to “crush” us. If it becomes an authoritarian state then they won’t need aadhar details to crush their own civilians

4. What do you mean by anyone can corrupt our data and our identity is just deleted? It’s not eraser movie for someone to do that as no one except govt can delete our data. All such data will have reasonable back ups if they want to design a system that would control our very existence. This is big ‘IF’, at least in our lifetime they would most probably can’t design a system that would connect our life to this imaginary “cashless” system. It would look good only on the paper and designing such a system is cost prohibitive and inefficient. This point is really baseless.

Moreover the government to make subsidies targeted and prevent misuse of benefits to shunt SC orders is trying to ring fence aadhar. But SC has already made clear in its previous judgments that all laws made by the legislative are subject to judicial review and can be struck down. If they SC sees merits against govt trying to get innovative they will of course do it. But here the govt has no malicious intent other than to try and get some form of identification for subsidy targeting. No govt can be sure if they would come back the second term so they won’t have any personal gains from that.

By the way what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies? It’s one thing if they had tried to apply it without giving people a chance to even enroll themselves but it would save the exchequer a huge money. You know how rich someone having a gas distribution agency used to be? To even get a license for it people used to pay big money and I don’t have to tell you why? But making it mandatory for other non-trivial services is stupidity and might be a plan to force people to enroll themselves into aadhar.

Any digital system is bound to have imperfections but we shouldn’t kick it because of 1 or 2 stray incidents. You are quoting about one person (not doubting him, but not necessarily he is telling the truth?) but that shouldn’t stop us from implementing something if it benefits the large masses. When my cousin and me went to a CCD to get his DBS done the system threw that error about no such details existing. We came back home and promptly logged in to see nothing has changed (it’s a different thing that DBS executive who came home could verify it without any issues).

But I agree that they should not try to design a centralized system around this aadhar (even it has been made clear that it would exist as another ID and won’t super seed anything) which would be a huge disaster. At least we won’t be the “destined” ones to see such an implementation.

“large no of illegal immigrants becoming legal citizens by getting an aadhar card. They are trying to give an impression that if someone has an aadhar card no other back ground checks would be necessary as aadhar has taken care of it with it’s “super power”.”

Yes, I forgot to include that. Aadhaar is promoted by both UPA and BJP gov as the ultimate ID for every citizen and hence once you acquire aadhaar no one will object on handling over other documents like Ration card/DL/PP. Hence, now terrorists can can become a legal citizen. Thanks to our governments.

1. I don’t have any faith on gov institutions and fuctionaries. I have already given links and proofs that show how one genuine person has his Aadhaar and hence ID invalidated and dogs and cows have Aadhaar. The whole idea of Aadhar was no manual inerference but it still has manual interference.

2. Are you living under a rock? Banks demand Aadhaar even if you have KYC fulfilled. See the very first link in th OP.
“I don’t think any country still has the infrastructure yet to implement such a banking system.”
Yes, even we don’t have that but gov is hell bent on making imaginary castles.

3.Wake UP! Gov has made Aadhaar mandatory for gas subsidy,organ implant etc…Have you even read my post?
“This is not an authoritarian state and government suddenly/randomly cannot/won’t decide to “crush” us. If it becomes an authoritarian state then they won’t need aadhar details to crush their own civilians”
Again, READ THE POST. Gov has already included measures in the Aadhar bill that you can’t raise a complain regarding anything that includes Aadhar. Aadhar is becoming a tool to suppress cillivians’ rights.

4.Now I beginnign to feel that you are trolling me. All proof already given in the OP.

“But SC has already made clear in its previous judgments that all laws made by the legislative are subject to judicial review and can be struck down. If they SC sees merits against govt trying to get innovative they will of course do it.”
Seriously? You again skipped where I wrote that SC passed the ruling AFTER the Aadhar bill was passed?

“what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies?”
It’s NOT making AADHAAR mandatory for anything BUT AADHAAR itself that I am protesting against.

“would save the exchequer a huge money”
Read the part where I have posted links to gov llying about DBT benefit.

“Any digital system is bound to have imperfections but we shouldn’t kick it because of 1 or 2 stray incidents”
Trolling again? 1 out of 121 cases of duplicate Aadhar is stray cases to you?

There’s not a single thing you have written that I had not answered already.

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After avoiding at all costs, I had to make my Aadhar Card this week only because **** stopped crediting Domestic Gas Subsidy and 30 Nov was last day to submit Aadhar and they were repeatedly calling. So, I did it. Now, this https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_confused.gif

I refused gas subsidy, no regrets. Once people will be educated enough about the Aadhaar menace they will rise against the illegal linking to subsidies.

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@Stupendous Man

Let me make it clear I am definitely not trolling you.

Definitely as any other govt agency the implementation sucks. But that shouldn’t stop us from trying to perfect ti?

No I don’t live under a rock. Banks demand but they have never denied opening an account when I have not given one.

I didn’t talk about the duplicates and I was referring to the incidents of that twitter guy who got his data corrupted.

I am very well aware of the things they have made it mandatory and that is the reason I mentioned
By the way what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies? It’s one thing if they had tried to apply it without giving people a chance to even enroll themselves but it would save the exchequer a huge money. You know how rich someone having a gas distribution agency used to be? To even get a license for it people used to pay big money and I don’t have to tell you why? But making it mandatory for other non-trivial services is stupidity and might be a plan to force people to enroll themselves into aadhar.

You have misinterpreted the “you can’t raise a complain regarding anything that includes Aadhar”. Just because they have mentioned it doesn’t mean the courts will stop you from knocking their doors. That is the reason I mentioned SC will see merits in case you go to them. Judicial activism is one thing but again we blame them for that but maybe they would take notice of it when a Judge gets on it.

Yes you are free to protest and who am I to stop you. You gave your views about it and I told my views that nothing is wrong in implementing it for a greater good.

Yes I have read about the DBT benefit being lied about long back but that shouldn’t mean that it would remain the same going forward? Its lack of implementation and the existing corruption which has failed it to a very large extent.

I again repeat some things what you told are definitely right but things like data corruption (really? these days even reasonable no of people spend a good money just to save their photos and other documents. And we think govt wouldn’t know this?), deleting our identity, money going poof, suppress our fundamental rights (they don’t need aadhar system if they want to do that) is all a figment of imagination (all buts and ifs).

PS- I have read each and every word and have read most of the links previously even before you have quoted. You are free to have your opinion and not necessarily be the fact.

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main to badi majboori mein banwaya. bacche ke school walo ne le rakhi thi, aadhar jama karwao, bacche ka bhi, apna aur biwi ka bhi. bacche ke aadhar ke liye pehle apna banaao being less than 5 years kid. finally jab unne ultimatum de diya ki naam katwa do agar aadhar nahi de sakte to banwana pada. https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

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@Stupendous Man

Let me make it clear I am definitely not trolling you.

Definitely as any other govt agency the implementation sucks. But that shouldn’t stop us from trying to perfect ti?

No I don’t live under a rock. Banks demand but they have never denied opening an account when I have not given one.

I didn’t talk about the duplicates and I was referring to the incidents of that twitter guy who got his data corrupted.

I am very well aware of the things they have made it mandatory and that is the reason I mentioned
By the way what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies? It’s one thing if they had tried to apply it without giving people a chance to even enroll themselves but it would save the exchequer a huge money. You know how rich someone having a gas distribution agency used to be? To even get a license for it people used to pay big money and I don’t have to tell you why? But making it mandatory for other non-trivial services is stupidity and might be a plan to force people to enroll themselves into aadhar.

You have misinterpreted the “you can’t raise a complain regarding anything that includes Aadhar”. Just because they have mentioned it doesn’t mean the courts will stop you from knocking their doors. That is the reason I mentioned SC will see merits in case you go to them. Judicial activism is one thing but again we blame them for that but maybe they would take notice of it when a Judge gets on it.

Yes you are free to protest and who am I to stop you. You gave your views about it and I told my views that nothing is wrong in implementing it for a greater good.

Yes I have read about the DBT benefit being lied about long back but that shouldn’t mean that it would remain the same going forward? Its lack of implementation and the existing corruption which has failed it to a very large extent.

I again repeat some things what you told are definitely right but things like data corruption (really? these days even reasonable no of people spend a good money just to save their photos and other documents. And we think govt wouldn’t know this?), deleting our identity, money going poof, suppress our fundamental rights (they don’t need aadhar system if they want to do that) is all a figment of imagination (all buts and ifs).

PS- I have read each and every word and have read most of the links previously even before you have quoted. You are free to have your opinion and not necessarily be the fact.

Yes, I have seen people tagging banks and fighting over the issue where they denied new account without aadhar.

“By the way what’s wrong in making aadhar mandatory for govt subsidies? It’s one thing if they had tried to apply it without giving people a chance to even enroll themselves but it would save the exchequer a huge money. You know how rich someone having a gas distribution agency used to be? To even get a license for it people used to pay big money and I don’t have to tell you why? But making it mandatory for other non-trivial services is stupidity and might be a plan to force people to enroll themselves into aadhar.”

Again the problem is NOT the scheme but the Aadhaar itself.

“You have misinterpreted the “you can’t raise a complain regarding anything that includes Aadhar”. Just because they have mentioned it doesn’t mean the courts will stop you from knocking their doors. That is the reason I mentioned SC will see merits in case you go to them. Judicial activism is one thing but again we blame them for that but maybe they would take notice of it when a Judge gets on it.”

Ofcourse we still are democratic country but gov by mentioning in the bill that UIDAI doesn’t hold any obligation towards the Aadhaar users, they simply closed doors on the users. Would you each time knock on court’s door for every misuse or mistake?

“Its lack of implementation and the existing corruption which has failed it to a very large extent.”
You believe that will change?

“I again repeat some things what you told are definitely right but things like data corruption (really? these days even reasonable no of people spend a good money just to save their photos and other documents. And we think govt wouldn’t know this?), deleting our identity, money going poof, suppress our fundamental rights (they don’t need aadhar system if they want to do that) is all a figment of imagination (all buts and ifs).”
Either you imply your own vision or cry over spilled milk. Choice is yours. Gov is serving the data on a plate, there won’t be any takers?

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main to badi majboori mein banwaya. bacche ke school walo ne le rakhi thi, aadhar jama karwao, bacche ka bhi, apna aur biwi ka bhi. bacche ke aadhar ke liye pehle apna banaao being less than 5 years kid. finally jab unne ultimatum de diya ki naam katwa do agar aadhar nahi de sakte to banwana pada. https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

Show them SC ruling. Tell them they are in contempt of court. Threaten them with court case. Don’t bulge or they will not back down.

Read this today’s news
https://www.thequint.com/india/2016/12/01/supre...

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