Adani Group: How The World’s 3rd Richest Man Is Pulling The Largest Con In Corporate History

@malikcool @MrKool_JJ @jaybro @Sahil_Jain @Snapz @Ash-D @raman12 @tappukepapa

Summary please! 🙏🏻 It's too long to read

Lord adani raising 20000 cr doesn't care about all this 🤣 And it can't go down if it buys everything someone has to bail it out, that's the great plan

Jarvis.-. wrote:

Lord adani raising 20000 cr doesn't care about all this 🤣 And it can't go down if it buys everything someone has to bail it out, that's the great plan

Paji if adani goes down, our nation will go down.chowkidaar will never let it happen due to image and next elections
Jo kam sebi ko karna chahiye jab vo kam 1 private company kare to samaj jao ki desh sankat me hai
24 saal ke school se nikle bache audit kar rahe wah yaar

saucap wrote:

Summary please! 🙏🏻 It's too long to read

Read these lines once paji Please Visit https://www.desidime.com/deals/adani-group-how-...

Update hidenburg research is shadow banned on twitter already in India

kukdookoo wrote:
@malikcool @MrKool_JJ @jaybro @Sahil_Jain @Snapz @Ash-D @raman12 @tappukepapa

https://www.inventiva.co.in/stories/what-happen....
If you can relate and understand how this kolaveri di o.O

Brother, you're obsessed....

I bought Adani Wilmar around 280 and sold around 350 in consolidation zone, I planned to buy it again at 300 but Adani Wilmar crossed 600

circuit pe circuit

kukdookoo wrote:
@malikcool @MrKool_JJ @jaybro @Sahil_Jain @Snapz @Ash-D @raman12 @tappukepapa

Before I start, let's just make a few things clear:

• I do not support any political party or their connections with businessmen in India.
• The first point was important as people often regard Adani to be in some unethical relationship with the GOI. 
• I don't know if it's true or not and I will not even debate this thing. But the main point here is, why are all these western news channels and websites targeting India, its leaders, and some businessmen so harshly, and that too right now?
  

If you would remember, a few days ago BBC rolled out a "fact-checked" report (2 videos long documentary) on our PM and it had many parts where the organization tried manipulating people, according to the GOI. And many people would not agree with that and that's okay, we can have differences in our opinions. But BBC, literally claiming India's PM as a 'butcher' is a really big thing and a fun fact, that documentary is not available for Indians. Now our people backlashed upon knowing about that documentary but BBC did not apologize for it; okay, no problem. But then I read this article where BBC apologized to the New Zeland PM for Writing a Sexist Comment. So NZ's PM gets an apology and our PM doesn't, okay maybe his "alleged crimes" are too big. But then what is this:

These are just a few of the hundreds of negative articles that BBBC has written for our PM. I won't say that he is a God and should be worshipped or he can't do anything wrong; but what is BBC? God? Court? Judge? I don't think so

Now I know you might be thinking that both these topics are not related and yeah, I  agree. But did you notice how these sites and leaders from western countries like UK and US have always targeted the Indian government and India's people? Yes, Adani is overvalued a lot, and when the market will correct its share price, investors will face huge losses. But don't you think that the timing of these sites targeting our people is way too convenient? When are the next PM elections? Got my point?

 

From an investor's point of view, yes, it's very risky to invest in Adani for long term and I haven't kept that stock in my portfolio too. But this thing, my friend, is way bigger than we may think. Why? As I mentioned that people believe that there's some connection between the GOI and Adani (a possible reason for him to get that rich). So if this is true, who would benefit from targeting both of them? When a country like India which is full of politicians rather than true leaders holds elections, it's vulnerable to these countries that want India to fail. And I repeat, these western countries are not India's friends. 

So it's better to not believe what they have to say, no matter if those things are true or not. We Indians are smart enough to gather info on our own. We have reliable sources too. It's better to just avoid these sites as much as possible.

Anyone is free to disagree with my opinion and I really don't mind. Thank you!

Adani is a fraud. No one can become so rich in so less time. Happy that someone is trying to expose him & taking short position on his stocks; which is a sane thing to do, as no one has balls to do it in our country.

Among several other factors, this research is one the reason for todays market downfall. Everyone understand the risk associated with Adani Stocks, still it manages to do so well because of obvious political connections. 

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/st...

Sahil_Jain wrote:

Before I start, let's just make a few things clear:

• I do not support any political party or their connections with businessmen in India.
• The first point was important as people often regard Adani to be in some unethical relationship with the GOI. 
• I don't know if it's true or not and I will not even debate this thing. But the main point here is, why are all these western news channels and websites targeting India, its leaders, and some businessmen so harshly, and that too right now?
  

If you would remember, a few days ago BBC rolled out a "fact-checked" report (2 videos long documentary) on our PM and it had many parts where the organization tried manipulating people, according to the GOI. And many people would not agree with that and that's okay, we can have differences in our opinions. But BBC, literally claiming India's PM as a 'butcher' is a really big thing and a fun fact, that documentary is not available for Indians. Now our people backlashed upon knowing about that documentary but BBC did not apologize for it; okay, no problem. But then I read this article where BBC apologized to the New Zeland PM for Writing a Sexist Comment. So NZ's PM gets an apology and our PM doesn't, okay maybe his "alleged crimes" are too big. But then what is this:

These are just a few of the hundreds of negative articles that BBBC has written for our PM. I won't say that he is a God and should be worshipped or he can't do anything wrong; but what is BBC? God? Court? Judge? I don't think so

Now I know you might be thinking that both these topics are not related and yeah, I  agree. But did you notice how these sites and leaders from western countries like UK and US have always targeted the Indian government and India's people? Yes, Adani is overvalued a lot, and when the market will correct its share price, investors will face huge losses. But don't you think that the timing of these sites targeting our people is way too convenient? When are the next PM elections? Got my point?

 

From an investor's point of view, yes, it's very risky to invest in Adani for long term and I haven't kept that stock in my portfolio too. But this thing, my friend, is way bigger than we may think. Why? As I mentioned that people believe that there's some connection between the GOI and Adani (a possible reason for him to get that rich). So if this is true, who would benefit from targeting both of them? When a country like India which is full of politicians rather than true leaders holds elections, it's vulnerable to these countries that want India to fail. And I repeat, these western countries are not India's friends. 

So it's better to not believe what they have to say, no matter if those things are true or not. We Indians are smart enough to gather info on our own. We have reliable sources too. It's better to just avoid these sites as much as possible.

Anyone is free to disagree with my opinion and I really don't mind. Thank you!

Very well said.

Sahil_Jain wrote:

Before I start, let's just make a few things clear:

• I do not support any political party or their connections with businessmen in India.
• The first point was important as people often regard Adani to be in some unethical relationship with the GOI. 
• I don't know if it's true or not and I will not even debate this thing. But the main point here is, why are all these western news channels and websites targeting India, its leaders, and some businessmen so harshly, and that too right now?
  

If you would remember, a few days ago BBC rolled out a "fact-checked" report (2 videos long documentary) on our PM and it had many parts where the organization tried manipulating people, according to the GOI. And many people would not agree with that and that's okay, we can have differences in our opinions. But BBC, literally claiming India's PM as a 'butcher' is a really big thing and a fun fact, that documentary is not available for Indians. Now our people backlashed upon knowing about that documentary but BBC did not apologize for it; okay, no problem. But then I read this article where BBC apologized to the New Zeland PM for Writing a Sexist Comment. So NZ's PM gets an apology and our PM doesn't, okay maybe his "alleged crimes" are too big. But then what is this:

These are just a few of the hundreds of negative articles that BBBC has written for our PM. I won't say that he is a God and should be worshipped or he can't do anything wrong; but what is BBC? God? Court? Judge? I don't think so

Now I know you might be thinking that both these topics are not related and yeah, I  agree. But did you notice how these sites and leaders from western countries like UK and US have always targeted the Indian government and India's people? Yes, Adani is overvalued a lot, and when the market will correct its share price, investors will face huge losses. But don't you think that the timing of these sites targeting our people is way too convenient? When are the next PM elections? Got my point?

 

From an investor's point of view, yes, it's very risky to invest in Adani for long term and I haven't kept that stock in my portfolio too. But this thing, my friend, is way bigger than we may think. Why? As I mentioned that people believe that there's some connection between the GOI and Adani (a possible reason for him to get that rich). So if this is true, who would benefit from targeting both of them? When a country like India which is full of politicians rather than true leaders holds elections, it's vulnerable to these countries that want India to fail. And I repeat, these western countries are not India's friends. 

So it's better to not believe what they have to say, no matter if those things are true or not. We Indians are smart enough to gather info on our own. We have reliable sources too. It's better to just avoid these sites as much as possible.

Anyone is free to disagree with my opinion and I really don't mind. Thank you!

I disagree with your opinion. Thanks!

I believe all these top businessmen are like chameleons, barring the minority (ED raids on these radicals?) all others pledge their allegiance to the state because it is the power that matters (Exchange of benefits). 

But this whataboutery (all are corrupt so stop complaining) should never be used as an excuse to defend someone, instead you can be critical about everyone which might bring some positive change in the future (Defenders of today become criticizers of tomorrow and this has become a never ending cycle)

saucap wrote:

Summary please! 🙏🏻 It's too long to read

World's 3rd richest man scamming the country with the world's highest poor population, with the help of one of the world's richest political parties.

@Sahil_Jain May be shift thread to P&S? (Since this BBC got into the discussion and one thread already got moved there for obvious reasons?)

First things first, discussions/debates on personal opinions are worthless IMO but this "Our people" reference in your post is making me curious. While one section is obviously unhappy with this documentary, you do know that there are other sections of our* people who feel the exact opposite right? So i'm wondering, whose feelings should BBC consider and apologize or express gratitude? (GOI?)

My Opinion: Of course you can call it propaganda because it is one-sided narrative (It got documented real events but still) but our Govt & its allies are no saints here, promoted a propaganda/one-sided film just last year (Gave tax exemption too in many states) because they thought it might benefit them.

Lets face it, we crave western attention but only when the outcome benefits us (Positive report >> Proud achievement | Negative : Propaganda by western media). Why there's so much hype for an Oscar award? One recent Golden globe award announcement warranted congratulation tweets from many public servants including # 1 but cannot digest a narrative / name-calling from a foreign broadcaster based on documented events?

Your article comes across very strongly as a mouthpiece for bjp / modi. It lacks objectivity. You are too redundant in defending him again and again. bbc video and modi bjp are two separate issues. modi bjp crony capitalism with adani and ambani is another issue. a mix mash of all the issues leads to nowhere but con-fusion..

getready wrote:

@Sahil_Jain May be shift thread to P&S? (Since this BBC got into the discussion and one thread already got moved there for obvious reasons?)

First things first, discussions/debates on personal opinions are worthless IMO but this "Our people" reference in your post is making me curious. While one section is obviously unhappy with this documentary, you do know that there are other sections of our* people who feel the exact opposite right? So i'm wondering, whose feelings should BBC consider and apologize or express gratitude? (GOI?)

My Opinion: Of course you can call it propaganda because it is one-sided narrative (It got documented real events but still) but our Govt & its allies are no saints here, promoted a propaganda/one-sided film just last year (Gave tax exemption too in many states) because they thought it might benefit them.

Lets face it, we crave western attention but only when the outcome benefits us (Positive report >> Proud achievement | Negative : Propaganda by western media). Why there's so much hype for an Oscar award? One recent Golden globe award announcement warranted congratulation tweets from many public servants including # 1 but cannot digest a narrative / name-calling from a foreign broadcaster based on documented events?

Comparing Oscar with a national leader bro itni energy late kahase ho.

Oscar which is itself shady.

detective-conan wrote:

Comparing Oscar with a national leader bro itni energy late kahase ho.

Oscar which is itself shady.

Day dreaming? May be you need some sleep to gain lost energy back to start thinking properly 😄

getready wrote:

Day dreaming? May be you need some sleep to gain lost energy back to start thinking properly 😄

Better than someone's far fetched theories by generalising things in black and white and getting all defensive hmm what was the right word "delusional"

detective-conan wrote:
Better than someone's far fetched theories by generalising things in black and white and getting all defensive hmm what was the right word "delusional"

What's so better in being delusional? 😄

If you got problem in understanding things or when something feels inconclusive, the right way to respond is by seeking clarity (asking questions).. Something i did with Sahil's post

First things first, discussions/debates on personal opinions are worthless IMO but this "Our people" reference in your post is making me curious. While one section is obviously unhappy with this documentary, you do know that there are other sections of our* people who feel the exact opposite right? So i'm wondering, whose feelings should BBC consider and apologize or express gratitude? (GOI?)

Deriving conclusions based on delusions ? Lol.. Good luck with your future endeavors 

getready wrote:

@Sahil_Jain May be shift thread to P&S? (Since this BBC got into the discussion and one thread already got moved there for obvious reasons?)

First things first, discussions/debates on personal opinions are worthless IMO but this "Our people" reference in your post is making me curious. While one section is obviously unhappy with this documentary, you do know that there are other sections of our* people who feel the exact opposite right? So i'm wondering, whose feelings should BBC consider and apologize or express gratitude? (GOI?)

My Opinion: Of course you can call it propaganda because it is one-sided narrative (It got documented real events but still) but our Govt & its allies are no saints here, promoted a propaganda/one-sided film just last year (Gave tax exemption too in many states) because they thought it might benefit them.

Lets face it, we crave western attention but only when the outcome benefits us (Positive report >> Proud achievement | Negative : Propaganda by western media). Why there's so much hype for an Oscar award? One recent Golden globe award announcement warranted congratulation tweets from many public servants including # 1 but cannot digest a narrative / name-calling from a foreign broadcaster based on documented events?

Where are questions it is full of opinions asking for suggestions in a sarcastic way and trying to give ur opinions on whole country's behaviour towards a award get ur ass out of ur home and ask a random person about this award which you are saying is accepted as positive news is not a thing anybody cares or knows about

makdiman wrote:

I disagree with your opinion. Thanks!

Yeah, they definitely seem like an ardent supporter of some political party and leader.

detective-conan wrote:

Where are questions it is full of opinions asking for suggestions in a sarcastic way and trying to give ur opinions on whole country's behaviour towards a award get ur ass out of ur home and ask a random person about this award which you are saying is accepted as positive news is not a thing anybody cares or knows about

Considering your difficulties, i even went ahead and quoted the particular part (+ the text in bold) in the previous response. But this is expected since you tagged a different post

get ur ass out of ur home and ask a random person about this award which you are saying is accepted as positive news is not a thing anybody cares or knows about

This my friend is a perfect reference for generalizing things in black and white. Only an idiot would assume that whole country would know about something/someone (Assuming they're very popular) or share same/similar views, this is common sense. For something to trend / create hype.. you don't need everyone. Just significant amount of people (online/offline) spread over multiple parts of the country are enough

Most oppose Adani just for the sake of opposing. Dunno why though. Same with Ambani.

May be they're politically constipated.

Few in comments are justifying BBC video too. Same BBC which termed the death of 59 Hindus in train was an accident. Same video where Jack Straw giving expertise, the same person who was responsible for Iraq war. Let alone lowkey journalists from Wire, Caravan, staunch communists who were part of the documentary.
These jokers just need validation from western media. Same media which is seen as a joke in west itself in their own country & suffering credibility issue. If China & Russia had cared about them, the outlook would've been different for them.

No wonder with such hollow thinking India's oppositions are in dumpster.

makdiman wrote:

World's 3rd richest man scamming the country with the world's highest poor population, with the help of one of the world's richest political parties.

Like how? With such power in hand & court being against BJP, why oppositions aren't approaching court? Very funny

getready wrote:

@Sahil_Jain May be shift thread to P&S? (Since this BBC got into the discussion and one thread already got moved there for obvious reasons?)

First things first, discussions/debates on personal opinions are worthless IMO but this "Our people" reference in your post is making me curious. While one section is obviously unhappy with this documentary, you do know that there are other sections of our* people who feel the exact opposite right? So i'm wondering, whose feelings should BBC consider and apologize or express gratitude? (GOI?)

My Opinion: Of course you can call it propaganda because it is one-sided narrative (It got documented real events but still) but our Govt & its allies are no saints here, promoted a propaganda/one-sided film just last year (Gave tax exemption too in many states) because they thought it might benefit them.

Lets face it, we crave western attention but only when the outcome benefits us (Positive report >> Proud achievement | Negative : Propaganda by western media). Why there's so much hype for an Oscar award? One recent Golden globe award announcement warranted congratulation tweets from many public servants including # 1 but cannot digest a narrative / name-calling from a foreign broadcaster based on documented events?

Thanks a lot, buddy, for the suggestion but I may not be the best person to decide whether to let this thread stay here or move it to some other section, I hope you understand.
Now for the topic at hand, I'm sorry for not being very clear earlier so I'll be now:

• Fact: BBC, along with a big part of western media, always targets India. For starters, here is a snippet of what BBC thinks of the issue between India and Pak regarding Kashmir: 
  So after trying to give it a religious turn (western media shows India as an anti-muslim country), BBC simply put forward the opinions and beliefs of one side of the riots, while the other one is, well we all know, something else.
  Next, BBC says that when Pak captured Abhinandan Varthaman (I hope you know who he is), he was returned "unharmed" to India. 
  But is it really true? We all know what the truth is, right? Here is what Happened with Abhinandan Varthaman in Pak. So why is BBC trying to hide these facts? And trust me, no Indian would support a political party when it comes to the Indian army. So this isn't about BJP anymore, is it?
  Then Burhan Wani, a literal terrorist, was talked about by BBC as a random dude hit by the army as if he didn't do anything wrong. 
  But do you know who Burhan Wani was?
  Oh and did I mention that India's surgical strike was just a "so-called" one for BBC? 
  These are a few facts about BBC and a few reasons why we can't trust the western media.
  
• Opinion: You said that personal opinions are worthless in debates and discussions and I fully agree with you. But will you please read my previous comment again? In this comment, my opinion was just that we should not rely on the western media for news related to our country. But other things in that comment were straight-up facts. 
• And do you want another interesting fact? BBC stands for British Broadcasting Corporation and do I need to tell you that these people still think of India as a country under their rule? You know who ruled over India unethically, right? 
  
• For your point that why should BBC apologize although there are people in India who oppose BJP and our current PM...don't you think NZ's PM would have had many haters too? Then why did BBC apologize to her and not India's PM? I didn't say that BBC's documentary was wrong or anything...but this is not how you address a country's PM in a documentary that will get millions or maybe billions of views, is it? And why did BBC wait for so many years to release their "true documentary" even when the supreme court in India said that the PM was not guilty in Gujrat's riot? Do you think BBC is bigger than our supreme court? I'd trust my nation's judiciary more than the media company of the same country that has been the biggest enemy of India for so long (Pakistan & China are way better than you may think when compared to the UK & US). 
• You said that our government promoted a "propaganda" or "one-sided" film last year. Now I'll ask you the same question that you asked me, but in a different way; who decided that it was a "one-sided" narration or a "fake propaganda"? You? I know that as of now, there is no saint in any of the political parties in India, neither in BJP nor in any of its competitors. And we have all seen how politicians have always chosen themselves over the people in India. But do you know what hasn't changed ever? THE WEST. They always find problems in India and its ways. The majority of western countries even exclude Kashmir from India's map and no matter which political party we support, we know what's right and wrong, correct? That's why I said that we shouldn't trust sites like BBC.
• And for your last point, I think it just doesn't fit well with the topic at hand. But even if we were to discuss it, who craves western attention? I don't, do you? Because those who are smart enough to discuss things that we are discussing right now will not be bothered by these awards. And not to mention, getting an award doesn't harm our country is anyway but these western countries and their propaganda will. So I hope you understand that we shouldn't compare these two things.