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If you compare health Insurance plans on Insurance web aggregator (Like policybazaar), you will find almost same features in all of them. So, you might get confused & fall in trap of cheapest plan or suggested by agent without knowing complete policy wording. So, here I am summarizing all you should know about health insurance plan with emphasis on hidden Terms & Condition. 1) No Claim Bonus (NCB) / Multiplier Benefit This is the benefit Insurer gives to customer for not taking claim in single year. Unlike vehicle insurance policy where NCB benefit is in terms of discount in subsequent renewal, in health insurance majority of time NCB is in the form of increased in Sum Insured (SI) (Coverage limit of your health insurance). Points to Note: - Rate of increase in sum insured limit will differ in different plans of same insurer & also from 1 insurer to another. Faster the rate, better it will be. E.g. Apollo Munich (Now HDFC Ergo) optima restore plan gives NCB as 50% increase in SI - Max. cap of increase in SI. Higher is better. Some plan gives max. upto 50%, some gives upto 100% - Penalty for taking claim. Whenever you take claim in a year, your insurer will penalize you for it (Usually by reducing accrued NCB by same rate as of in increase). No penalty or low penalty is better. E.g. Max bupa doesn’t penalize for taking claim - Majority of PSU insurer (National, united etc.) don’t provide this feature. - Best thing about NCB is, Increased in SI has no extra terms & condition & it is equivalent to your base plan with higher coverage. So your policy should have this benefit. 2) Restoration benefit / Refill benefit Agents sell policy saying total 10 lac coverage (5 Lac base SI + 5 lac restoration). Restoration benefit means once your SI (+ NCB, if any) get exhausted insurer will refill same amount as base SI (like 5 lac) once in a year. All hidden Terms & condition lies here. So, read policy wordings & don’t rely on agent. Like, - Some insurer has T&C that - Restoration can’t be used in same person with same disease (Not even complication of same disease) E.g. – Max Bupa E.g. Person detected with cancer & total bill (In single claim or multiple claim – like in chemotherapy cycle) goes above 5 lac, still he can’t get restoration benefit. - Can be used in same person, same disease but with gap of minimum 45 days - Single claim in policy year can’t exceed basic SI + NCB (Indirectly saying restoration can’t be used in single claim however it can be used in subsequent claim with gap of 45 days) – E.g. Apollo Munich My take is, don’t fall in trap of this benefit. If they are giving it at no additional cost, go for it. Because you can use it for other family members. 3) Co-pay Co-pay is the amount in percentage you have to pay out of your pocket for every claim. Usually co-pay plan is offered at reduced rate compare to normal plan to attract people. But never go for any plan, which has co-pay. Beware: Some insurer have same base plan but if you opt for discount, they will convert it to Co-pay plan. E.g. Religare. Religare offers 15% discount to customer who opt for co-pay feature under their Religare care plan. Some of agents, Including policybazaar (Which will always try to sell Religare plan) try to attract customers by saying we will offer 15% additional discount without telling about this Co-pay. (I myself fall in trap of policybazaar, thank god I was saved my research. I do complaint against them on twitter too) 4) Zone/Geography base charges This might find unusual but many companies levi Co-pay charges if you change your Zone for treatment. Like if you have taken policy in Agra & if u want to hospitalized in Delhi, then you have to co-pay 20% amount. E.g. Hdfc Ergo policy In few insurer, it is optional to choose zone wise charges. Don’t fall in trap of it to save few bucks. Because agent might give you Zone B policy at lower rate & you might end up paying 20% co-pay for taking treatment in Zone A. Choose Insurer which don’t have such geographical/Zonal restrictions. 5) Life-long renewal without Co-pay Some insurer put additional co-pay terms for renewal after age of 60/65 years. Avoid such plans. 6) Sub Limit or Capping Many policy have sub limits on Room rent, ICU charges, capping on cataract, Knee replacement surgery etc. If ur bill goes beyond these permissible limit, they will deduct all charges on pro-rata basis & not alone room charges (Like doctor consultation, laboratory charges, OT charges, procedure charges etc.) Also keep in mind that these sum limit of Room rent includes – Room charges, nursing charges, injection charges, Ventilator charges (if used in ICU) etc. So better to choose plan which don’t have sub limits or capping. 7) Pre/post Hospitalization Higher number of days coverage, better it is. Like Apollo optima restore gives 60 & 180 days pre/post benefit compare to others who usually gives 30 & 60 days respectively. 8) Free health check-up Don’t get lure with this free benefit. This freebie shouldn’t be prime deciding factor while taking plan. If this benefit is there it is better. 9) AYUSH Benefit If you want to get treatment for Ayurvedic/Homeopathy etc. check Aysuh benefit. Some insurer provide Aysuh benefit for full SI E.g. Max Some insurer provide Aysuh benefit with some capping like max. 20k/50K E.g. Religare Some insurer don’t provide Aysuh benefit E.g. Apollo Imp Point: This benefit is only available for hospitalization in Government AYUSH hospitals or NABH accredited private hospitals. Only few private AYUSH hospitals take NABH. 10) Stay healthy Discount Very nice initiative by some insurers (like Apollo, Hdfc etc.). If you stay healthy they will provide you additional discount at renewal. For which you have to download app/wear digital watch & they will calculate daily walking steps & give discount slab wise with max. 8-10%. Those who are already doing such exercise daily, will get this discount & for others this discount will lure to be healthy. 11) Waiting period for Pre-existing disease Pre-existing diseases are covered after 3-4 years (Max, Apollo 3 years, Star 4 years). Shorter the duration better it is. While for slow growing diseases waiting period is usually 2 years. 12) TPA (Third Party Administration) Many general insurance companies (like National, United etc.) don’t have their own medical team to verify claim details & they rely on TPA for claim settlement. So, customer has to deal with TPA first for claim & then TPA approved amount released by Insurer. While some other insurer (like Apollo, Hdfc, Religare, Max etc.) have their in-house settlement team & don’t have TPA, which fasten the process of claim & refund. Go for companies without TPA 13) Daily Cash benefit Over & above your actual claim amount, some insurer gives daily cash benefit for miscellaneous expenses but with lots of T & C like - Admission should be in network hospital, Minimum stay 48 hrs., Room should be twin sharing room etc. & upper cap is also there, Not valid for ICU admission - However if this benefit is there at no extra cost, its good. 14) Exclusion There are some common exclusion in each policy, which many are not aware. - Admission, discharge, record section, RMO, Administrative, registration, service charge etc. (Many corporate hospital levy Administrative service charge at whopping 15% of total bill amount excluding medicines & these charges are straight away rejected in claim - Cosmetic surgery - Experimental, unproven treatment - Hospitalization just for investigation or diagnosis - Circumcision - War like situation, Terrorism, Hazardous activity – like Scuba diving etc. - Dental / Eye treatment like Laser - HIV, STDs - Alcohol, substance abuse - Assisted Reproduction (IUI, IVF etc.), birth control related procedures - Obesity & its complication (Keep this thing in mind, anywhere during admission if doctor writes your diagnosis as Obesity – case gone. Your claim will be rejected) - Maternity (Some plans do offer this benefit but has long waiting period of 3 years), infertility, birth control treatment etc. - Non-medical expense (like cotton, loose gloves etc.) - Apart from this common list, many insurer have added some more exclusions (E.g. Some Specific medicines are excluded) & some black listed hospitals. Do check for it in policy wordings or I have highlighted such comapny specific unique exclusion in my google spread sheet, u can go through it. Apart from these following are excluded in majority policy (Except Apollo has recently added it in inclusion list) - Neurological diseases like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s disease etc. - Stem cell transplant - Robotic surgery, LASER, Light treatment (Remember if you are living in metro cities then some of sophisticated hospitals do have Da vinci Robot & they use it frequently – but your insurance won’t cover it) 15) Availability of Insurer / TPA office in your city - In case of reimbursement availability of Insurer nearby to you will be helpful for documentation & if any query arises. 16) Network hospital list - Don’t just check number of hospitals. It will be more or less same in each insurer. But most important thing is to check whether these hospitals are well-known & according to your preference or not. 17) Individual Vs. Family Floater If you take Individual health insurance for each family member, it will be costly affair compare to taking Family floater. Suppose three are 3 persons in Family (2 Adult & 1 Child) looking for Sum Insured of 5 lac. Simple reason to understand cost difference is because in Individual policy Insurer is liable to pay max. up to 15 lacs (If all 3 gets sick & put claim), while in family floater Max. liability is only 5 Lacs. However, as per my opinion there is rare possibility (Unless in accident) that all of the family members need it at a time. So, better to go with family floater plan with higher Sum Insured at same rate as compare to Individual plan. In family floater plan children are allowed only till they reach 21 year of age (E.g. Max) or 25 year of age (e.g. Apollo, HDFC). 18) Pricing Majority insurer increases price of premium in the slab of every 5 year. Like for age 31-35 premium remains same then increases at 36 age which remains same till 40 years. However Max is following increase in premium every year by 100-200 rs., unlike sudden rise of premium with age slab changes. So do check it. 19) Top-up / Super Top-up plan Rather than going for higher Sum insured in base policy, one should go with super top-up policy if person feels that Base policy is inadequate. Because these policies are cheap. Again all hidden T&C are there in these plans. So read carefully before buying it. Top-up policy – As the name suggests, it is top-up to your existing policy. Lets understand terminology first. Deductible Amount – It is the minimum amount one has to pay (Either through base policy or through their own) to get triggered top-up policy. Sum Insured – In top-up policy sum insured includes base sum insured also. E.g. Your base policy is 5 lac. You have taken top-up policy of 10 lacs. Deductible amount will be 5 lacs Sum Insured – 10 lacs Actual coverage in your top-up policy – 5 lacs (10 lacs- 5 lacs base policy) Now Important T&C in Top-up policy is you have to pay deductible amount during each claim separately to get triggered Top-up policy. E.g. You have taken 5 lac base + 10 lac Top-up policy (Here Actual coverage in top-up is 5 lac) Case 1: You get accident & your bill goes to 7 lac. Here, in single admission you have used deductible amount (Of 5 lacs), your top-up policy will get triggered & remaining 2 lacs will get paid from top-up plan. Case 2: You get dengue & bill of 4 lac has been settled from base policy. Now you have 1 lac remaining in base policy + 5 lac top-up. After few months you get accident & bill becomes 3 lac. In this case your top-up policy will not get triggered. Because as per T&C bill should be more than deductible amount (here 5 Lac) in single admission to get triggered top-up policy. Difference between Top-up & super top-up policy is that in super top-up policy they calculate deductible amount cumulatively. So, in above case 2, super top-up policy will pay remaining 2 lacs but not top-up policy. Super-top up policy is somewhat costly compare to top-up. But always buy Super-top & not Top-up policy. For easy comparison of all features of different company’s plan at one place, I have made Google Spread Sheet. This sheet will help everyone to compare & decide best policy for them. Those dimers who want it can request it here or pm me. Also I am in the process of making another similar sheet for comparison of Top-up / Super-top plan & also for special need plan Like maternity, cancer, cardiac, senior citizen Etc. Disclaimer: I am doctor by profession but I have interest & knowledge in Finance. Prime purpose is to help people & prevent victim of mis-selling of insurance. If u have any query, ask it here or Pm me.
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Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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I would like to put on record that @drjpatwa assisted me in clarifying the nuances of renewal, which helped me arm with the adequate knowledge to negotiate with my insurer (HDFC Ergo) better and thereby help in a favourable outcome. Many Thanks Dr Patwa ji. I wish other Dimers also reach out to him in case you are struggling about Insurance. Cheers!!

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can u explain in detail

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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@drjpatwa One question on Term Insurance. Afte demise, is the amount paid to dependent is taxable as per Income Tax Laws ?

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@Manitian
Better u ask this question in term plan thread so that others who read about term plan, also gets benefit of knowledge.

Answer is – It is not taxable under section 10 10(D) of income tax.

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Sad to say that despite having 1 of the best health insurance product that is HDFC Optima restore plan, Insurance web aggregators are not showing any hdfc plan in their comparison (Previously they were showing it). What matters most for them is highest commission & negotiation as per their terms due to large visitors & customer base.

Even majority of them are not showing plan of ICICI Lombard, Bajaj Alliance too…

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please provide google spread sheet @drjpatwa

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+1

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I recently came to know that if someone has an account with Punjab National Bank they can get a group health insurance policy from leading insurers at a whooping discount. Is this true, and if so, are there any caveats in such policy?

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@drjpatwa please throw some light on this

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What is the difference between HDFC optima restore vs hdfc MY:HEALTH SURAKSHA rolleyes

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@drjpatwa I have a doubt.I am having a group insurance of my company of 4 lakhs of my spouse and parents combined..which company topup plan will be better upto 20 lakhs.

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is there sub limits?

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Why is HDFC ergo not giving supertop more than 20 lacs?

Is it advisable to have main policy from 1 company and super top up policy from another?

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Hi @drjpatwa Hi bro, please send me the the spreadsheet of health insurance policies. It’s for my friend’s in laws. Both are 61years old. Both are diabetic+ have hypertension+ cholesterol. Other than that “healthy” individuals who never got hospitalised in the past. What is the best option for them? I know there will be huge loading amount or higher co pay for most of the big players. How about 10L arogya Sanjeevani plans with the PED cover starts after 48 months?

There home is so close to a big hospital and on Saturday they bought an insurance from the hospital. There was some agent from star health there. They sold them star health optima restore plan. 34k for 4L floater and advised never to disclose about their PED when they get the verification call on Monday. They didn’t even mention about the 20% co pay. My friend came to know about this only this evening and called me. I just remembered this thread.

I told him to cancel and asked him to call some local agents to get some more info on plans. My friend said he contacted couple of other agents this evening and MAX BUPA agent told him that MaX reassure can be arranged, 34K – 5L, provided they don’t disclose PED on verification call. I told him to religiously mention all the PEDs. Love to see your spreadsheets and your thoughts.

KG for your dedication to this thread. Great work brother. sunglasses

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This is height of mis-selling !!!

I would say better not to buy health insurance rather than hiding Diabetes, BP & cholesterol & that too with max bupa who is very strict. Bcoz at the end he will loose premium also & won’t get claim amount also for non-disclosure of medical facts. Unfortunately, these agents are just worrying about their commission without thinking about customer cry

Yes loading will be hepty as they have Bp, diabetes & cholesterol. Star health doesn’t apply loading but there u have to face co-pay clause as age is 61. They can think about company who doesn’t apply loading or if they are tight on budget then can think about arogya sanjeevani plan considering capping, co-pay clause in mind…

But strictly don’t hide medical history particularly in private ones else they will be in deep trouble at the time of claim…

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Hello @@drjpatwa

Earlier I was covered under Family Floater plan with 1.5L + 1.2L (NCB) of HDFC Ergo (Erstwhile Apollo Munich). Now, due to age criteria, I cannot continue in the same policy. So, I want to buy a separate policy for myself.

Current Age : 27+, Single.

My query is would it be possible to add my spouse to the exisiting policy if at all I get married in few years. Also, would any additional benefits like maternity be covered under it.

Please suggest me a good policy with cover of 5-10 Lacs and No CoPay.

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@saurabh1

Ur plan with Apollo Munich (Now HDFC ERGO) was best one. Ideally, U should have made a separate policy from ur parents’ policy once ur age crossed above threshold level to get continuity benefit. If ur policy is still not over, I would say go with this option without 2nd thought.

Yes, u can add ur spouse in ur policy. Each company has different rules. Majority company doesn’t allow mid-term inclusion except Star health. So, u can add ur wife only at the time of renewal of ur policy.

Normal plans doesn’t cover maternity benefits. U have to take special maternity benefit policy which is obviously costly & have waiting period.

For more details about comparison of normal as well as maternity plan kindly go through my spread sheet…

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Here’s an update from Policybazaar

@drjpatwa

I had checked for policy on PolicyBazaar and had a call back from them offering the below plan

CARE (Religare) 5L policy at 6.6k pa
CARE Advantage (Religare) 25L policy at 8k la

Benefits
- 25L cover
- 10% NCB, upto 50%
- No CoPay
- No room capping
- No upper limit on Ambulance service
- 100% restoration
- Covid19 covered

What is the review of Religare?

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How is aditya birla plan? They are offering family floater for 1 cr at 21k annually

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@Dealhunting Why u want to go with new company ? Just check history when they started business of health insurance.

I would say, go with those companies who are in the business for at least 10+ years.

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IMPORTANT INFO:

If you continue with a policy for 8 years then your claims cant be rejected

Hence, dont change policy after taking it seems once u get a good company /stable one

https://www.irdai.gov.in/ADMINCMS/cms/whatsNew_...

After completion of eight continuous years under the policy no look back to be applied. This period of eight years is called as moratorium period. The moratorium would be applicable for the sums insured of the first policy and subsequently completion of 8 continuous years would be applicable from date of enhancement of sums insured only on the enhanced limits. After the expiry of Moratorium Period no health insurance claim shall be contestable except for proven fraud and permanent exclusions specified in the policy contract. The policies would however be subject to all limits, sub limits, co-payments, deductibles as per the policy contract.

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Plz provide sheet

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Is there any mediclaim policy which provides fixed benefit of some amount on ONLY positive diagnosis of Covid-19?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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chk star health corona kavach sorry corona rakshak

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Alert for name change: Max Bupa is changing name to Niva Bupa. Reason is – In 2019, max sold it’s stake to True North PE firm. So, they are not allowed to use name of Max after December 2021. Nothing to worry for policyholder.

2nd name change this year. 1st religare to Care & now Max bupa to Niva Bupa.

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@drjpatwa could you please share me the spreadsheet url?
i have mostly been covered by employee medical insurance, but i think that’s not a wise decision so wanted to check for options as i want to covered by default as well.

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@drjpatwa can you throw some light on Hdfc ergo Optima secure policy. If that is good then can you add that to ur spreadsheet

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@drjpatwa Kindly share spreadsheet. Thanks in advance

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Shared in DM. Queries can be handled by others. @rockstr @kanav1089 @ZNZ 

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Please share the sheet for comparison

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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@admin I wish you could remove comments by @devbehel172 to make this thread cleaner.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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@drjpatwa / anyone ,can i please have the spreadsheet?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Customer service wise which is the best insurance company?

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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any extra add on to ensure no deductibles are cut in hdfc ergo?

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@Dealhunting

If u r asking about consumable item deduction then they have protector rider add-on. If u take that add-on all consumable items also payable by company.

Also in this rider along with this benefit 2 other benefits are there – Ur SI will increase every year as per CPI (Consumer Price Index) inflation. Whenever u take claim of less than 50k in a year, ur ncb will be intact…

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Please share the spreadsheet in dm. Thanks so much!!!

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@drjpatwa
I have Royal Sundaram Lifeline Supreme (5lac SI+ 4lac NCB)
Never had any claim so not aware if they are good or not.
Should I continue with them or change to some other company
And can you also send spreadsheet link
And really great thread you’ve started.

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Thank you @drjpatwa for sharing that spreadsheet url. You help me a lot to select the best one for my parents 🙏🏽 Thankful to your proper guidance & suggestions. Your support & services are just awesome. 🔥🔥

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Pls DM me spreadsheet…thanks..

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