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Cybercrime blocked amount (informative thread & series of events happened)
I have received request from multiple dimers about my previous post. But couldn’t find time to write it earlier but made some time now to let the fellow dimers know the REALITY of our Indian Judicial system.
Update to cybercrime post: https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercell-put-hold-sbi-need-help
& https://www.desidime.com/discussions/update-cyb...
How it started and how it ended
1. Received message from SBI “Rs.4,500 put on hold by the cybercrime department”
2. Raised complaint via Internet banking that I want details of that transaction
3. Got call from customer care that the Amount was put on hold by Cybercrime and for additional info contact branch
4. Branch being 500km away (in my Native) couldn’t visit so asked in the same customer care call (point 3 above) for Manager contact number. And they did provide
5. Contacted Manger for the info, but he insisted on me coming to branch to get details but later when requested he agreed to check it for me. (without me physically visiting branch).
6. To my surprise they didn’t get my account number with the freezing orders. And Bank manager raised request from his mail to provide details/ unblock the amount ASAP
7. 1.5 Month passed by and finally got reply from Manager that they received court notice to block that amount and remit that amount to some party named “X”. but they didn’t have any info about the transaction involved in cybercrime. But they didn’t agree to provide Court order copy. Then I sent my uncle to branch to speak with him personally, then they allowed to take picture of the order. But in that order copy only the amount to be debited against each account is mentioned but no other information.
Now coming to investigation part done by me:
a) Searched that case order number online in e-courts but didn’t find any case.
b) Tried for 2 -3 days in all platforms about it but didn’t get it. So decided to search by using someother case details like “they asked to transfer amount to party Names “X” so I searched for cases filed by him in that particular court – Thane. And found that case but “Order copy not uploaded by court” so didn’t get any other details from the E-Courts website.
C) But was able to see the name lawyer who filed that case from the details available.
Now coming to TWISTTTT
That bloody lawyer filed around 50+ cases in the same court with multiple people as Petitioner. And she is really a cunning B!tch coz she mentioned respondent as cybercrime.
and you know one shocking news?
All those 50+ cases are closed in favour of the Petitioner for reason that respondent didn’t appear in court and disposed the case mentioning “Uncontested--ALLOWED OTHERWISE”
When I dig deep into it then found that amount involved is more than 200 crores. (In all those 50 cases put together) (and she choose some small district court in rural part of India, targeting the people in distant places coz they wont be able to attend court and fight back)
This is daylight robbery with loopholes in law and punishing the common man for using online modes of transactions.
Here the amount involved in my account is Rs.4500 so left it without any fight coz I don’t want to drag this with no hope of getting amount back.
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Tried contacting my frnd (lawyer) but he couldnt help with that coz order copy is not available. will see if i can contact some TV channel/ post it in twitter.
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bro u was directly talking money in bank or in appwallet?
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548566#post_10548566
But the money will remain on hold. They won't reverse it without the bank account holder's permission.
You can complaint to RBI, The RBI has resolved the cybercrime-related issues for many users. Explain all the details thoroughly.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548590#post_10548590
This is big. That lady lawyer deserves to be behind the bars. Plz contact your local TV news reporters/newspaper reporters with case details.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548996#post_10548996
Not behind bars but in parliament.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548697#post_10548697
Present as suit to RBI, IF they don't help, report against rbi
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Even though I did empathise (with your earlier topics) and maybe even though I might still empathise with you,
I have had to vote this down.
Aside of you starting a new thread for the old case,
the over-simplification got to me.
If the medium big cats (say: cheetah, leopard) hide up in the bush (trees) to pounce on their prey.. it is but natural evolution of life.
If i view as the cheetah being 'cunning', it isn't really the cheetah's problem. I can judge all I want.
If you are unaware of or do not understand the concept of 08:16cause of action08:21, if one is unawares of the हथकंडे/ tricks of the trade..
does it warrant one to choose name-calling as an alternative.. is a point I am pondering over.
You chose to label someone a "cunning B!tch" (I am quoting it verbatim from your post).
https://youtube.com/watch?t=472s&v=mRm_ReWkyGA without delving into that person's motivations, objectives in doing so
I still can say that name-calling like so.. could have been avoided.
You and I are next door neighbours in Bengaluru.
I called you on your handfone and threatened you, abused you.. while you were in Ladakh or Lakshadweep.
The 'cause of action' took place in those places.
The law of the land DOES permit you to drag my sorry arse to the respective jurisdiction.
Whether the (often उदासहीन) courts go indepth to check the details or wait for respective inputs from the investigating agencies.. is another matter altogether.
I am not denying the interpretation and conclusions of your investigation that prima facie there is merit in what you say.
Your assessment alleges possible collusion by the other party/ client/s of the lawyer and in them (the lawyer/s) scheming (and orchestrating) to 'game' the system [for wrongful profiteering (of the ients). Not to mention the personal interest in creating possibly fake/unreal litigants].
I have had to vote this down.
Aside of you starting a new thread for the old case,
the over-simplification got to me.
If the medium big cats (say: cheetah, leopard) hide up in the bush (trees) to pounce on their prey.. it is but natural evolution of life.
If i view as the cheetah being 'cunning', it isn't really the cheetah's problem. I can judge all I want.
If you are unaware of or do not understand the concept of 08:16cause of action08:21, if one is unawares of the हथकंडे/ tricks of the trade..
does it warrant one to choose name-calling as an alternative.. is a point I am pondering over.
You chose to label someone a "cunning B!tch" (I am quoting it verbatim from your post).
https://youtube.com/watch?t=472s&v=mRm_ReWkyGA without delving into that person's motivations, objectives in doing so
I still can say that name-calling like so.. could have been avoided.
You and I are next door neighbours in Bengaluru.
I called you on your handfone and threatened you, abused you.. while you were in Ladakh or Lakshadweep.
The 'cause of action' took place in those places.
The law of the land DOES permit you to drag my sorry arse to the respective jurisdiction.
Whether the (often उदासहीन) courts go indepth to check the details or wait for respective inputs from the investigating agencies.. is another matter altogether.
I am not denying the interpretation and conclusions of your investigation that prima facie there is merit in what you say.
Your assessment alleges possible collusion by the other party/ client/s of the lawyer and in them (the lawyer/s) scheming (and orchestrating) to 'game' the system [for wrongful profiteering (of the ients). Not to mention the personal interest in creating possibly fake/unreal litigants].
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548707#post_10548707
Unless it happens to u, that anger wont come out.
if someone intentionally cheats people for living they are none the less B!tch and i stand by that. it wont matter even if u vote down this post. coz there are many such people in this DD forum who lost money with this method so this will be a infomative thread for them.
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Bro, don't let that lady lawyer go, make sure she gets punished. Pls contact RBI and some new channel to expose this scam. If we can help you in any way, please let us know
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549212#post_10549212
Yeah exactly we can altogether contribute for him to fight against that cunning lady so she doesn't dare to do this again with anyone else
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548819#post_10548819
Did you receive money into that account? If not court can make any case ex-party without even proofs and not sending notice to the mentioned address registered with bank?
How can cybercrime believe that 🤔 and issue freeze to banks without proof that this account received money?
Am i not understanding the whole concept or missing something?
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10548830#post_10548830
Only 4500 i received in last 2 years is from my mother account.
When court issues notice then cybercrime should act (like placing freeze)
So no threads which can be linked😭
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Everything is just speculation and heresay .. some parts maybe true .
but it is tough to commit this kind of fraud and that too , openly infront of cout of law . things can come out tday or tmmrw .
here many facts are being hidden or say not clear ... so can't blame anyone and this infomation / thread can't be trusted as pure information .
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549736#post_10549736
I can share the screenshots of cases she handled. Along with the verdict given “uncontested-allowed other wise” for all cases.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549052#post_10549052
@Lootster Bro Try To Remember Did U Gave Ur Account Number Anywhere Online For Refunds ? Or They Freeze Money With Upi Id ??
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549135#post_10549135
No bro. I can see other accounts too in the court order (obtained from sbi, only account numbers) and amounts are in lakhs. So no chance it might be for refund.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549137#post_10549137
this is dark side of digital india that nobody would talk about, there are shops in some state which r already refusing to take upi payment due to this type of fraud happened with them or their known ones, and this will just increase over time
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549224#post_10549224
BTW where in ecourt site you search these keywords please guide me my 700 also blocked I have only police station details and ack no.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549740#post_10549740
Sent message in dm
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549233#post_10549233
I reached out to PMO for help, and they forwarded my case to the Government of Rajasthan. However, I don’t know how their Sampark Portal works—whether they even read what I mentioned in my application or not. They directly sent a letter to RBL Bank Rajasthan to resolve the issue. 😂😂
Then, I received a call from sampark Portal customer service, and they asked whether I was satisfied. I explained that this wouldn’t solve my issue and suggested they forward it to X Police Station. They again provided the same response 🙄 and closed the complaint.
The lien is still marked, and while my account has been unfrozen, I was promised by Livquik that they are working to remove the lien, but they still haven’t been able to do so. 🤬🤬
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549235#post_10549235
I think you can also do court case for this issue
They should hear you
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549286#post_10549286
Thanks for the write up. Even after 7 mnths, the 9k lien in my SBI acc is still there. Never did any kind of crypto transaction.
Now I just want this headache to be over. Hoping they debit that 9k soon, so that I can close that acc permanently.
Also, I have disabled UPI for my primary bank accs, so that such nuisance doent happen again. And just in case i need to receive soe payment from someone, i use amazon pay gcs instead.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549633#post_10549633
If your incident is similar to what happened with OP. Please contact LLA youtube channel, this looks like something big & need to be highlighted. @Lootster you too please drop a mail to Labour Law Adviser. I'm also dropping a mail to them along with this thread link.
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If you have the details, why not file a case against the woman for fraud
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549731#post_10549731
Didnt want to waste resources on Contingent cases bro🫣
coz if they are able to do soo much amount in frauds they can easily buy out the judges😶🌫️
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549543#post_10549543
Wow, so someone is getting txn details through some app. Then they are filing for false claim with fake name as cybercrime. Since people won't appear in the court, they are getting money for free.
Next level scam. Try to contact labour law advisor and similar youtubers.
News channels might not be interested as they are puppets and they only like to spread misinformation with their political ideology.
You need some kind of proofs and chain of email snaps as well so that people believe you.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10550138#post_10550138
Its not like that. Lets say person A (layer 1) has scammed someone and got 20 lakh rupees in his bank acc. Now, the first thing prson A will do is to disburse this money anonymously. The best way is to use crypto p2p. So, lets say he pays this 20 lakh to 10 ppl (layer 2) on binance and gets crypto coins. Since p2p transactions cannot be tracked, so the scammer is free now. Lets say these 10 ppl who sold crypto and got money in bank acc, now uses this money and sends to others, lets say each of them sent to 3 other ppl. so now at layer 3, there are 30 ppl.
Now, when the victim who was scammed by 'A', files a cybercrime complaint, the police tracks wherever this tainted money has gone, and either blocks the amount or freezes the acc.
Ppl at layer 3 and above will have no idea why a lien was marked. They will keep running from bank to police station. If u r very lucky, u may get the details of the complaint. Usually the case is filed 1000 kms away from ur home, and the investigating officer asks u to visit there and prove ur innocence either through bribery, or sending the disputed amount to the victim or both.
Usually, if the disputed amount is small and the balance is also very small, lawyers usually advice not to pursue, as it will just be a waste of time. Rather if the victim sends a court order to bank, the disputed money will be debited and nothing else. Or it will keep being marked as lien for the rest of ur life. Bcoz lawyers take minimum 10k-25k for a case, and also depending on the jurisdiction.
A detailed thread on this issue on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/1gx34jp...
P.S: The actual scammers at layer 1 use rented bank accs, i.e., they pay some money to some ignorant person on social medias to use their bank acc. Furthermore, since they get money converted into crypto coins, there is no way of getting hold of the actual scammer.
The people (at layer 2) that traded through p2p just for the sake of 5-10% profit due to their greed gets whats coming to them rightfully. Its the ppl from layer 3 and above who are also actual victims of this scam.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549553#post_10549553
Appreciate sharing your info, investigation and fight! I am glad it wasn't an insanely huge amount but this is a major flaw that needs to be patched by law enforcement agencies working together with banks. Verification at every stage is required, no one should be able to just blindly block anyone else's money like this.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549561#post_10549561
We all know SBI is chu bank , so marale of story is not to open a/c in SBI even if offered for free, also always keep your a/c in bank where u can physically visit nearby office (as u can visit at least in lunchhour or something ) bank fallow strict time and lunchtime.for a court order only court can provide relief and there also u have to go physically so all come down to this
Laws have loopholes thats nothing new , its true for whole world
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10550016#post_10550016
Go through different threads and you will find that SBI or any PSU is much better in handling such cases as they block/lien only disputed amount and provide you care copy while private banks put stop on whole amount and don't even share case copy.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549609#post_10549609
Its not about sbi. i am stuck in similar situation with icici bank and they are not even providing me complaint copy, in my case the amount is very huge, i have recieved indirectly 1.6% of total disputed amount by complainant but cc has put lean of overall disputed amount lost by complainant which is too huge making my account inaccessible.. Its atleast good that op got ripped for small amount which is reversed to complainant and its sorted anyhow.
If anyone is stuck in similar situation try to get acknowledgement number and io details from bank. or visit local cybercrime and give them your account number they will let u know from what state freeze has been placed.
contact io via call, whatsapp. it may take 100s of attempt. He will let u know the disputed transaction details.
Disputed transaction can be partial or fully disputed.. also ask for layer.. if you are stuck in layer 1 layer 2 layer 3 then its going to take a lot of time and u have to go through full scale investigation. Rest layers can get lien removed/ unfreezed easily by contacts, kharchapani, or returning disputed amount to complainant only if io assures it.
If your primart account is freezed and lien amount is small , u can send notice to io through lawyer, lien will be there till investigation completed but account will unfreeze and u can use remaining money in your account.
all this proccess is worrisome.. U have to stay on mercy of io.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549728#post_10549728
In case of public sector banks. Lien will be placed only on disputed amount but not on whole amount😶
But it is horrible in ur case. Hope u get ur freeze removed
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10549637#post_10549637
This is big and should be somehow brought to limelight.
I am curious to know how these people gets account details of the victims and how are the money getting debited without proper approval, also if this is done in such large scale as said by op definitely bank officials should be aware of this as they are getting numerous such cybercrime court orders
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/cybercrime-blocked-amount-informative-thread-about-series-of-events-happened?post_id=10550085#post_10550085
Dar ka mahaul hai..
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bro send it to some new channels and bar association ,its a new type of scam
tag them on ttwiiter for more coverage
But the money will remain on hold. They won't reverse it without the bank account holder's permission.
You can complaint to RBI, The RBI has resolved the cybercrime-related issues for many users. Explain all the details thoroughly.
Bro, don't let that lady lawyer go, make sure she gets punished. Pls contact RBI and some new channel to expose this scam. If we can help you in any way, please let us know