Risk disclosures on derivatives
9 out of 10 individual traders in equity Futures and Options Segment, incurred net losses.
On an average, loss makers registered net trading loss close to ₹50,000.
Over and above the net trading losses incurred, loss makers expended an additional 28% of net trading losses as transaction costs.Those making net trading profits, incurred between 15% to 50% of such profits as transaction cost.
Source: SEBI study dated January 25, 2023 on “Analysis of Profit and Loss of Individual Traders dealing in equity Futures and Options (F&O) Segment”, wherein Aggregate Level findings are based on annual Profit/Loss incurred by individual traders in equity F&O during FY 2021-22.
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Problem is everyone thinks they are the chosen one but stats clearly show otherwise. It's better to just invest in an Index funds. Returns are going to be better than active trading for most.
lots of people pinged me after seeing my portfolio for stock advise.I suggested them do not take stock advice from anyone not even sebi registered indiviuals but nobody seems to listen. go for mutual funds you will get high returns. thats why i only give advice in mutual fund.
arko1983650 wrote:@ everyonelots of people pinged me after seeing my portfolio for stock advise.I suggested them do not take stock advice from anyone not even sebi registered indiviuals but nobody seems to listen. go for mutual funds you will get high returns. thats why i only give advice in mutual fund.
arko1983650 wrote:Bhai 3.5 Cr rakh ke Desidime Pe ham jaise chindichoro ki sangati me q fase hue ho?lots of people pinged me after seeing my portfolio for stock advise.I suggested them do not take stock advice from anyone not even sebi registered indiviuals but nobody seems to listen. go for mutual funds you will get high returns. thats why i only give advice in mutual fund.
arko1983650 wrote:
.... but nobody seems to listen.
So so true! 😂
All would just want you to tell them a quick buck making tip.
Ramta_Jogi wrote:So so true! 😂
All would just want you to tell them a quick buck making tip.
thats why the finance infulencer are making huge amounts of money in crores by selling courses which are free in the internet, for example PR sunder(sebi banned him) ,akshat srivastav etc
Rahil42 wrote:I am a simple person. I may have high networth by i own only one car that too alto k10. I was not having this kind of money 5 years back. I got it after my father sold some property but I invested in mfs and got good returns. I am not like fake financial influencer who is keen to sell courses. I think myself as a middle class person.
Bhai 3.5 Cr rakh ke Desidime Pe ham jaise chindichoro ki sangati me q fase hue ho?
>> I got it after my father sold some property but I invested in mfs and got good returns
@arko1983650
I got it after my father sold some property and I invested it in mfs and got good returns.?
baludesi wrote:>> I got it after my father sold some property but I invested in mfs and got good returns
@arko1983650
I got it after my father sold some property and I invested it in mfs and got good returns.?
thanks for correcting me.my bad i didnt see it.
arko1983650 wrote:lots of people pinged me after seeing my portfolio for stock advise.I suggested them do not take stock advice from anyone not even sebi registered indiviuals but nobody seems to listen. go for mutual funds you will get high returns. thats why i only give advice in mutual fund.
Are you sure, you are not hiding the real facts?
What is the real yearly returns when compared to the bank interest of 6% ?
ramadesidime wrote:xirr is yearly returns only which is around 18%Are you sure, you are not hiding the real facts?
What is the real yearly returns when compared to the bank interest of 6% ?
arko1983650 wrote:Then not good appreciation. Kind of okish. Min 24% is the good appreciation.
xirr is yearly returns only which is around 18%
ramadesidime wrote:
Then not good appreciation. Kind of okish. Min 24% is the good appreciation.
You should concentrate more on Real estate than MFs.
I am not greedy .I am happy with returns above 15%.real estate may not fetch such amounts as real estate prices are quite high.I also have two houses.one that i am currently not staying is around 70 lakh price but it is hard to get 25k rent. rented somebody today for short term 18k so where is my returns?
Any advice to get minimum 12% return in MF
Lollipop wrote:pmed youAny advice to get minimum 12% return in MF
arko1983650 wrote:
pmed you
Can u send that to my dm as well..
arko1983650 wrote:
pmed you
Please let me know also in dm.
arko1983650 wrote:
pmed you
If possible share in public or in DM
arko1983650 wrote:
I am a simple person. I may have high networth by i own only one car that too alto k10. I was not having this kind of money 5 years back. I got it after my father sold some property but I invested in mfs and got good returns. I am not like fake financial influencer who is keen to sell courses. I think myself as a middle class person.
You have 3.5 crore in MF, 2 Houses approx 1.5 crore, must have some emergency fund and you call yourself a middle class
Bhai tb to mai BPL card ke liye apply kr deta hu
ramadesidime wrote:
Then not good appreciation. Kind of okish. Min 24% is the good appreciation.
You should concentrate more on Real estate than MFs.
Bhai tu telegram join kar, waha hi aise return possible hai
ramadesidime wrote:
Then not good appreciation. Kind of okish. Min 24% is the good appreciation.
lol
arko1983650 wrote:Few things to note while investing:I am not greedy .I am happy with returns above 15%.real estate may not fetch such amounts as real estate prices are quite high.I also have two houses.one that i am currently not staying is around 70 lakh price but it is hard to get 25k rent. rented somebody today for short term 18k so where is my returns?
ramadesidime wrote:I myself own a 35 years old house which costs around 70-75 lakhs in a prime location but nobody wants to buy it as the building is old no lifts etc. new buildings are available in my area costing approx 90 lakh for 1000 carpet area. it is very hard to sell the property if its old. only land has some good appreciation but it wholly depends on luck. My father sold his property and got good returns because the place developed fast. you cannot predict 50-60 years down the line. My other relative had a land not far from my place but he hardly got half the amount my father got.
Few things to note while investing:
1)Inflation : Govt does not consider these items (Real estate components/Gold/Clothes/Luxury items/mobile phones/Internet costs/Restaurant bills etc) while calculating. They say, inflation is 6%. But actual inflation is more than 18%.
2)Just buy Apartment unit and lock it for ever (without earning single rupee). The appreciation is more than 12% per year (even after 30 years of apartment life).
3)Buy a landed house (House with single floor) and lock it for ever (without earning single rupee). The appreciation is more than 24% per year (even after 70 years of building life).
4)Assume the life of the person is 100 years and if family is just earning 18% on the wealth, the wealth would vanish due to inflation.
arko1983650 wrote:And the worst is sometimes, the land could fall in road/or any other govt. projects expansion zone and might get only a fraction of the market value as compensation.
I myself own a 35 years old house which costs around 70-75 lakhs in a prime location but nobody wants to buy it as the building is old no lifts etc. new buildings are available in my area costing approx 90 lakh for 1000 carpet area. it is very hard to sell the property if its old. only land has some good appreciation but it wholly depends on luck. My father sold his property and got good returns because the place developed fast. you cannot predict 50-60 years down the line. My other relative had a land not far from my place but he hardly got half the amount my father got.
baludesi wrote:let also not forget land mafia(politically connected) who can force you to sell the land at peanuts value. If for example a 2lakh land appreciated to 50 lakhs as new metro or new development happened then land mafia will force you to sell it at 10 lakh max. or worse it can be occupied by local clubs who will just capture your land.
And the worst is sometimes, the land could fall in road/or any other govt. projects expansion zone and might get only a fraction of the market value as compensation.
Few things that I learnt in my 4 year market experience:-
1. Look at equity as asset, not just money making machines. This way you'll stay longer and compounding does wonders to you.
2. Non- linearity reigns. Almost all of us have listened to real estate stories. Real estate just like equities gives returns in non-linear fashion. The home we are living in, the land costed 60k back then, now someone in my area bought for 62 lakhs. The transactions over the years went like this:- 3 lakhs, 7 lakhs, 15 lakhs, 20 lakhs, and then 62 lakhs. So see? Equities work in the same fashion. Last 3 years returns are good for everyone. I think in last 20 days:- my MF portfolio jumped by my monthly SIP amount.
3. Cycles. Equities fall. And when they fall, believe me it's tough to see. Theory is not same as experience. I'm yet to see a bear market. Almost all those fin influencers have not seen a bear market. Better follow those who have been in market for atleast 15 years.
4. Increase your day job income. Save 50% at least. Increase income and that way you can save around 60-70%. Do like this for 15-20 years and sit tight.
5. Enjoy life. Because there is only one. The amount of time vs the quantum of money you'll make passively in MFs is huge. Like just buying and sitting for 15 years will make you FI. Time is the most prized asset for humans. One learns this very late in life. Read books, travel and live life.
6. If u want to go for active stocks. Learn learn. In 10 years, it's very difficult to beat market. Again always follow those who are market for > 15 years.
The way I see markets :- markets reflect more of your personality. Whether you are enterprising, fool or wise. Most fools loose money in market and they don't know this. Read the psychology of money by Morgan Housel. Very very good book.
arko1983650 wrote:lots of people pinged me after seeing my portfolio for stock advise.I suggested them do not take stock advice from anyone not even sebi registered indiviuals but nobody seems to listen. go for mutual funds you will get high returns. thats why i only give advice in mutual fund.
shraaj wrote:
Agar Baat Returns ki Ho Rahi Hai to I also want to say something, People wants FAST EARNED Money! Nobody wants to stay invested , Dont use your brain for too much research just invest in Mutual Fund which AMC is Trusty,Past Returns are Good! If I had had that much money i would have become BIGG BULL till now😄
Its all about CAPITAL,PATIENCE,LEARNING,REPEAT!
if i had invested in covid then my portfolio would look like that. I invested after covid. why hide your invested amount and returns?
senco ka ipo laga hai waha 70k + profit karunga...😊
if i hide my trade and only show senco trade(listing gain) then everybody will ask for stock advise😝
