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Egypt buys 30 Rafale jets for $4.5 billion!! And how much did we pay?

Rafale sells 30 of their fighter jets to Egypt for $4.5 billion. That too, the payment is spread out across a period of 10 years. Recently, Greece bought 18 jets for aout $3 billion.And our country purchased 36 jets for $8.5 billion, claiming additional costs for customisation/enhancements which they could not explain n finally Taayi admitting that the Rafales were standard issue when she was the Defence Minister.Obviously, there will be some differences in the models, but buying at twice the price? https://www.trtworld.com/africa/france-to-sell-... negotiation skills by our PMO right? This is what happens when a country does not have a strong opposition party in the parliament!!

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First, let’s deal with this Corona.

let this Rafale jets go to hell

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Bhai Indians have discarded this issue in 2019

Now they/we are in suffering mode

No need to discuss this , people don’t care.

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Does it comes with?

Radio Altimeter height measurement from 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet
Radar Warning receiver (RWR) frequency band from 2.5 18 GHzto 10 18 GHz
Low Band Jammer (LBJ) pod with frequency band of 1
4.5 gHz
Flight Data Recorder (FDR) recording time from 10 hours data to 16 hours data plus two hours of audio
High altitude engine start-up to 12,000 feet
Non Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar
Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar
Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar
Infra-Red Search and Track (IRST)
Helmet Mounted Display (HMD)
Training Mode in Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS)
Towed DecoysVery High Frequency Omni Range (VOR)

There are country specific enchantments and maintenance duration cost etc. Cost of fighters varies from country to country.

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Come to Intermiles app. Weekly, one Raffle is free 😅

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saucap wrote:

Come to Intermiles app. Weekly, one Raffle is free 😅

And 1 seat selection also free on flight booking.. 😜

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Scam hai ji. RAM, SSD, Weapon system wagarah toh hum khud hi upgrade kar sakte the. /s

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High end variant of even a car would be almost twice of basic variant for eg check Kia Sonet
What to talk of Fighter jets and their maintenance
Like any other party I am sure kickbacks were there but may not be that much as REMOVED barks

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Those were bought with reason to fly away as fast as possible when the country is no longer safe..

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caks2006407 wrote:

High end variant of even a car would be almost twice of basic variant for eg check Kia Sonet
What to talk of Fighter jets and their maintenance
Like any other party I am sure kickbacks were there but may not be that much as REMOVED barks

As if others buying these jets are powering their jets with pigeons, no need of any specific changes/enhancements and their planes don’t need any maintenance!! All deals are inclusive of customization & support / maintenance. Any military equipment bought by a country will be customized to their specific needs!! And it’s a lot more expensive in those countries to maintain than in our country!

The only change in our order was to build them here, to bless some gujju, you know who, instead of building in a govt setup (again, you know which).

Good to see you admitting that there is corruption/kickback in this deal. Now that is a start where the followers begin to agree that their lords are not as honest as they showcase themselves.

I don’t give a damn to which party, but such high level deals shd get scrutinized, and I am highlighting the need of a strong & knowledgeable opposition which can make it happen.

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yeh pubg wala hai na

Ye pubg wala PLANE hai na

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India bought all high end planes.
Egypt bought the basic model.

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In 2024 don’t be stupid again to vote for BJP.

Some interesting thoughts came in mind. Not copied from internet.

There is no difference between mayavati and modi.

  • Both are SINGLE,
  • Both aamassed huge wealth for their partIes
  • Both have very shortsighted scientific vision
  • Both are stubborn and don’t listen to learned people
  • Both have “me first attitude”
  • Both spent insane amounts on cloths.
  • Both spent insane amounts of Public money on air travel.
  • Both spent insane amounts of Public money on statues instead of hospitals.
  • Both built palaces for themselves from public money (Modiji’s palace being built behind new Vista complex)
  • Both resorted to petty politics when they had the opportunity to make the big change they could be remembered for.
  • Both sidelined their mentors Kashi ram and lal Krishna advani into oblivion.
  • Both tried creating their legacy through building structures but not by their work.
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virat157 wrote:

India bought all high end planes.
Egypt bought the basic model.

I thought Egypt bought Rafales made in China where as we bought the German ones with Japanese electronics. No?

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Bimbasar wrote:

Does it comes with?

Radio Altimeter height measurement from 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet
Radar Warning receiver (RWR) frequency band from 2.5 18 GHzto 10 18 GHz
Low Band Jammer (LBJ) pod with frequency band of 1
4.5 gHz
Flight Data Recorder (FDR) recording time from 10 hours data to 16 hours data plus two hours of audio
High altitude engine start-up to 12,000 feet
Non Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar
Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar
Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar
Infra-Red Search and Track (IRST)
Helmet Mounted Display (HMD)
Training Mode in Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS)
Towed DecoysVery High Frequency Omni Range (VOR)

There are country specific enchantments and maintenance duration cost etc. Cost of fighters varies from country to country.

All other countries just got the plane. Nothing else that makes it a fighter aircraft.

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santosh_blr wrote:

I thought Egypt bought Rafales made in China where as we bought the German ones with Japanese electronics. No?

“While the 4.5 generation Rafale jets, deployed by the likes of Egypt, Qatar and France itself, have an impressive combat history in providing air superiority, the ones exported to India are considered an edge above the rest.
According to the Indian Bureau of American financial and business news website, Business Insider, France has made special additions to the standard Rafales as per the requirements laid down by the IAF which helped Dassault Aviation clinch the deal.
One of the significant reasons behind the superiority of the Indian Rafales over their Qatari or Egyptian counterparts can also be tethered down to the difference in overall requirements
As a matter of fact, the IAF pressed on for the late additions to the new fighter jets which included ‘Hammer’ precision-guided munitions and advanced navigation systems,
The Rafale guided by Indian indigenous GPS, i.e., IRNSS (Indian regional navigation satellite system), for which the Rafale has installed with upgraded Sigma 95N. It is a high-performance navigation system designed for most demanding aeronautic applications that require excellent navigation and guidance accuracy.*”

https://eurasiantimes.com/rafale-vs-rafale-why-...

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I got no knowledge to comment on technicalities of aircraft sysyem…. Bt 1 basic thing ni understand is if govt uses dis fund to hire scientist or fund drdo… paying salary at international scale to those scientist then can’t we develop it ourself

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24karat wrote:

I got no knowledge to comment on technicalities of aircraft sysyem…. Bt 1 basic thing ni understand is if govt uses dis fund to hire scientist or fund drdo… paying salary at international scale to those scientist then can’t we develop it ourself

Make in India khud government nahi karti

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dharmanath481 wrote:

In 2024 don’t be stupid again to vote for BJP.

Some interesting thoughts came in mind. Not copied from internet.

There is no difference between mayavati and modi.

  • Both are SINGLE,
  • Both aamassed huge wealth for their partIes
  • Both have very shortsighted scientific vision
  • Both are stubborn and don’t listen to learned people
  • Both have “me first attitude”
  • Both spent insane amounts on cloths.
  • Both spent insane amounts of Public money on air travel.
  • Both spent insane amounts of Public money on statues instead of hospitals.
  • Both built palaces for themselves from public money (Modiji’s palace being built behind new Vista complex)
  • Both resorted to petty politics when they had the opportunity to make the big change they could be remembered for.
  • Both sidelined their mentors Kashi ram and lal Krishna advani into oblivion.
  • Both tried creating their legacy through building structures but not by their work.

And vote to whom

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24karat wrote:

I got no knowledge to comment on technicalities of aircraft sysyem…. Bt 1 basic thing ni understand is if govt uses dis fund to hire scientist or fund drdo… paying salary at international scale to those scientist then can’t we develop it ourself

Everyone can’t make everything….. Even commercial planes can’t be made easily….

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24karat wrote:

I got no knowledge to comment on technicalities of aircraft sysyem…. Bt 1 basic thing ni understand is if govt uses dis fund to hire scientist or fund drdo… paying salary at international scale to those scientist then can’t we develop it ourself

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-India-have-air...

It is not that easy. Even the projects are soooo secretive.

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rogerthat wrote:

Bhai Indians have discarded this issue in 2019

Now they/we are in suffering mode

No need to discuss this , people don’t care.

after 2014 people have stopped caring

there is separate PM cares fund and that takes care of all

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desiman wrote:

after 2014 people have stopped caring

there is separate PM cares fund and that takes care of all

Yes brother I hope you understood my point

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BKB.. Rafael issue was gone upto the apex court at that time.. Teri ab khuja rahi hai.

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BubbleBoyChickenLittle wrote:

@dharmanath481 yes bro, I have the same thoughts for Modi now. I’ll also not vote for Modi. However, need suggestions whom to vote for?
Ask someone who has lost his loved one(s). Modi has disappointed us BIG TIME.
@Wontdisplaymyname @bikidas2060

Some one will step in this political vacuum.

Remember cricket spin bowler Narendra Hirani (no pun intrnded because indeed his name is correct)

He was such a spinner that he stormed international cricket for India. Fantastic strike rate just 2 – 3 runs and 6-7 wickets in every match.

International batsmen were petrified on him coming for bowling.

But finally they mustered courage and studies his every ball from video footage and analysed it throughly in slowmo.

Finally they came up with a strategy, practiced it throughly nets and they literally nailed this bugger down. Then within next some 20 matches he turned so expensive that he was thrown out of Indian squad.

Why did he got kicked and later not harbajan singh? He too was a spin bowler.

Well in both cases both Narendra didn’t have variations. They only did what they know best and refused to learn from their mistakes.

The mental condition is called megalomania if I am correct.
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BubbleBoyChickenLittle wrote:

@dharmanath481 yes bro, I have the same thoughts for Modi now. I’ll also not vote for Modi. However, need suggestions whom to vote for?
Ask someone who has lost his loved one(s). Modi has disappointed us BIG TIME.
@Wontdisplaymyname @bikidas2060

Its human nature to blame someone else for anything which gives us pain

The way covid second wave exploded, it was astonishing
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekl...
See weekly trends
India’s Cases 26 lakhs and World’s Cases- 56 lakh

Health is a state’s subject. Centre is also responsible.

Most of the people while talking about Covid-19 one/two months ago- “Corana is a hoax, created by Govt./Media” Forget the masks alone

Now “Corona is very dangerous, Govt. doing nothing”

.

Strong Opposition is key for good democracy.
Not that opposition which seeks only power and has no Motivation/Passion/Dedication for the country.

There are good politicians in every party, opposition party should let them come to the front and let them tell their idea of taking country forward.

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bikidas2060 wrote:

https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-India-have-air...

It is not that easy. Even the projects are soooo secretive.

Agreed not easy… Dats why need to hire world class engineers n scientists who work on difficult things…iy might take years or even decades.. Bt we need to start somehwere…. Might be its already in progress as a secret mission grinning

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BubbleBoyChickenLittle wrote:

@dharmanath481 yes bro, I have the same thoughts for Modi now. I’ll also not vote for Modi. However, need suggestions whom to vote for?
Ask someone who has lost his loved one(s). Modi has disappointed us BIG TIME.
@Wontdisplaymyname @bikidas2060

Don’t vote for any big (brand) name. They won’t help you in the time of need. Instead, vote for the right candidate (irrespective of any party) as per your conscience, to whom atleast you can reach at the time of need.

Don’t go with perception of others or any xyz waves (majority). Choose the helpful ones instead.

And finally,

Don’t cling on to your vote, your vote doesn’t require to decide the winner but should be for the deserving. 

Vote judiciously!

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24karat wrote:

Agreed not easy… Dats why need to hire world class engineers n scientists who work on difficult things…iy might take years or even decades.. Bt we need to start somehwere…. Might be its already in progress as a secret mission grinning

Not possible…

If you need 10 scientists but..

You cant able to select top 10 scientists directy in india.. You can able to take only 5 out of these 10 as other 5 seats are reserved…

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