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Egypt buys 30 Rafale jets for $4.5 billion!! And how much did we pay?

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Rafale sells 30 of their fighter jets to Egypt for $4.5 billion. That too, the payment is spread out across a period of 10 years. Recently, Greece bought 18 jets for aout $3 billion.And our country purchased 36 jets for $8.5 billion, claiming additional costs for customisation/enhancements which they could not explain n finally Taayi admitting that the Rafales were standard issue when she was the Defence Minister.Obviously, there will be some differences in the models, but buying at twice the price? https://www.trtworld.com/africa/france-to-sell-... negotiation skills by our PMO right? This is what happens when a country does not have a strong opposition party in the parliament!!

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Does it comes with? Radio Altimeter height measurement from 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet Radar Warning receiver (RWR) frequency band from 2.5 -18 GHzto 10 18 GHz Low Band Jammer (LBJ) pod with frequency band of 1- 4.5 gHz Flight Data Recorder (FDR) recording time from 10 hours data to 16 hours data plus two hours of audio High altitude engine start-up to 12,000 feet Non Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar Infra-Red Search and Track (IRST) Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) Training Mode in Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS) Towed DecoysVery High Frequency Omni Range (VOR) There are country specific enchantments and maintenance duration cost etc. Cost of fighters varies from country to country.
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High end variant of even a car would be almost twice of basic variant for eg check Kia Sonet
What to talk of Fighter jets and their maintenance
Like any other party I am sure kickbacks were there but may not be that much as REMOVED barks

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In 2024 don't be stupid again to vote for BJP. Some interesting thoughts came in mind. Not copied from internet. There is no difference between mayavati and modi. * Both are SINGLE, * Both aamassed huge wealth for their partIes * Both have very shortsighted scientific vision * Both are stubborn and don't listen to learned people * Both have "me first attitude" * Both spent insane amounts on cloths. * Both spent insane amounts of Public money on air travel. * Both spent insane amounts of Public money on statues instead of hospitals. * Both built palaces for themselves from public money (Modiji's palace being built behind new Vista complex) * Both resorted to petty politics when they had the opportunity to make the big change they could be remembered for. * Both sidelined their mentors Kashi ram and lal Krishna advani into oblivion. * Both tried creating their legacy through building structures but not by their work.
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First, let's deal with this Corona. let this Rafale jets go to hell
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Bhai Indians have discarded this issue in 2019 Now they/we are in suffering mode No need to discuss this , people don't care.
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after 2014 people have stopped caring

there is separate PM cares fund and that takes care of all

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Does it comes with? Radio Altimeter height measurement from 10,000 feet to 15,000 feet Radar Warning receiver (RWR) frequency band from 2.5 -18 GHzto 10 18 GHz Low Band Jammer (LBJ) pod with frequency band of 1- 4.5 gHz Flight Data Recorder (FDR) recording time from 10 hours data to 16 hours data plus two hours of audio High altitude engine start-up to 12,000 feet Non Cooperative Target Recognition (NCTR) mode in Radar Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) modes in Radar Ground Moving Target Indicator and Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/T) modes in Radar Infra-Red Search and Track (IRST) Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) Training Mode in Missile Approach Warning System (MAWS) Towed DecoysVery High Frequency Omni Range (VOR) There are country specific enchantments and maintenance duration cost etc. Cost of fighters varies from country to country.
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All other countries just got the plane. Nothing else that makes it a fighter aircraft.

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Come to Intermiles app. Weekly, one Raffle is free 😅

Finance Mentor Finance Mentor
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And 1 seat selection also free on flight booking.. 😜

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Scam hai ji. RAM, SSD, Weapon system wagarah toh hum khud hi upgrade kar sakte the. /s
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High end variant of even a car would be almost twice of basic variant for eg check Kia Sonet
What to talk of Fighter jets and their maintenance
Like any other party I am sure kickbacks were there but may not be that much as REMOVED barks

Generous Generous
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As if others buying these jets are powering their jets with pigeons, no need of any specific changes/enhancements and their planes don’t need any maintenance!! All deals are inclusive of customization & support / maintenance. Any military equipment bought by a country will be customized to their specific needs!! And it’s a lot more expensive in those countries to maintain than in our country!

The only change in our order was to build them here, to bless some gujju, you know who, instead of building in a govt setup (again, you know which).

Good to see you admitting that there is corruption/kickback in this deal. Now that is a start where the followers begin to agree that their lords are not as honest as they showcase themselves.

I don’t give a damn to which party, but such high level deals shd get scrutinized, and I am highlighting the need of a strong & knowledgeable opposition which can make it happen.

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Those were bought with reason to fly away as fast as possible when the country is no longer safe..

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yeh pubg wala hai na

Ye pubg wala PLANE hai na

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India bought all high end planes. Egypt bought the basic model.
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I thought Egypt bought Rafales made in China where as we bought the German ones with Japanese electronics. No?
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In 2024 don't be stupid again to vote for BJP. Some interesting thoughts came in mind. Not copied from internet. There is no difference between mayavati and modi. * Both are SINGLE, * Both aamassed huge wealth for their partIes * Both have very shortsighted scientific vision * Both are stubborn and don't listen to learned people * Both have "me first attitude" * Both spent insane amounts on cloths. * Both spent insane amounts of Public money on air travel. * Both spent insane amounts of Public money on statues instead of hospitals. * Both built palaces for themselves from public money (Modiji's palace being built behind new Vista complex) * Both resorted to petty politics when they had the opportunity to make the big change they could be remembered for. * Both sidelined their mentors Kashi ram and lal Krishna advani into oblivion. * Both tried creating their legacy through building structures but not by their work.
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And vote to whom
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I got no knowledge to comment on technicalities of aircraft sysyem…. Bt 1 basic thing ni understand is if govt uses dis fund to hire scientist or fund drdo… paying salary at international scale to those scientist then can’t we develop it ourself

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Make in India khud government nahi karti

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BKB.. Rafael issue was gone upto the apex court at that time.. Teri ab khuja rahi hai.

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Hamare wale jyada achhe hai

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Simple af: Chowkidaar chor hai

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Ultimate reply if one can’t justify anything…. Pappu/mummyji harishchandra hai ?

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Modi is to blame. When he wants photo on every vaccine certificate he should have photo on every death certificate too.

Now some argue it was not anticipated it would be so big. WRONG

History says maximum people died due to Spanish flueb in1920’s in the SECOND half of wave oblver 1 million people and most in India. This is documented history.

Medical professionals were screaming on TV that the 2nd wave would be coming but the govt. Had no one listening.

Couldn’t they tell that to Modi? Well he is not approachable surprisingly busy feeding peacocks.

Remember the Mahua Moitra told story in parliament. Emperors New clothes… The emperor was roaming naked with invisible clothes and no one close dared to tell the king the truth.

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Don’t blame without knowing the truth.
Egypt bought the base model Rafale while we bought Full Option with Sunroof.

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No Need for explanation Bhai, some peoples are born pappu here, their logic is iPhone 1 and iPhone 11 both are the same, simply they will comment that both are iPhone’s so the price must be the same.

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Major problem in India is mindset. Only in the name of patriotism, one can’t survive. Since childhood we are taught to become earners (high salaries in private or govt jobs). We see corruption all around. For everything we have to pay extra. So when bright students graduate, they don’t look to contribute to country’s economy or status. They look to earn the most and Dollar conversion is huge attraction.

Some bright people who join Govt agencies are pushed aside, left to rot in the Red Tape of bureaucracy (every govt is same as the bureaucrats dont change). They eventually are fed up and leave for better prospects or become like their oppressors in the long run. Plus India do not have huge budget. Just compare ours to any developed nation. We can cry loud that we are better than China or Japan, but the ground reality is that our per capita income is not much better than most African countries. To top that more than 90% of our population do not pay taxes. No government would dare to tax the farmers. I am not saying the poor farmers, but tax those filthy rich farmers who own multiple sports cars and portray themselves as victims in our country. Most MPs/MLA has lakhs of rupees income source as so called farm income which is completely tax free. Obviously they wont introduce tax to pay money from their own pockets and since our grandfathers time, there has been nothing but politics using the farmers. These are people whose multiple generations have not paid a single paisa tax and they wont be easily willing to start now.

If you see reports, more and more rich Indians are leaving India. There are many reasons, one of the major is though paying heavy taxes, still get treated like trash in public offices and get no service properly. No rational way of getting things done and no good way of life. Blaming 1 person or govt is easy, but the fact remains that the rot in the cultural mindset which is not easy to clean.

There are hardly any entrepreneurs in India (few names are there like Tatas, Mahindras, Birlas ) and the govt does not have money to invest. Everyone is business man and they try to suck out all the money they can at the first instance their business becomes profitable. No startup have grown to big business in India (as far as I know). They just sell themselves to the foreigners. earn fast money and retire.

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