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100 salutes to this guy but the panelist is correct

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BlueFlash wrote:

Unpopular opinion: The best way to serve the nation is to become a politician (a good one). There's nothing that a truely dedicated MLA/MP can't do that an IAS can even dream of... However, the sad reality is that such a person simply doesn't exist...

To survive and reach the top in politics one needs to be a scoundrel of the lowest rung. The worst rogue and the utterly selfish of all would top it. That's why such politicians as you have wished for do not exist.
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guest_999 wrote:
Clearing upsc exam in India is an achievement only at personal level unless someone becomes the next T. N. Seshan (the man who single handedly reformed the Indian election system). This guy or Tina Dabi or the ....UPSC topper from early 1990s nobody will even remember them a few years later/once they retire. I have no issues with IIT/IIM toppers like this guy clearing UPSC exam but they shouldn't expect others to believe their "reasoning" for clearing this exam(aka to serve the nation/society).
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Unpopular opinion: The best way to serve the nation is to become a politician (a good one). There's nothing that a truely dedicated MLA/MP can't do that an IAS can even dream of... However, the sad reality is that such a person simply doesn't exist...

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decideaim wrote:
He has achieved something great that  many of us couldn't. But i agree with the panelist, talent wasted obviously.  

There is this inherent defect in public service. If you joined as a specialist you'd have no role in management, and if you joined as a bureacrat you won't have much scope to think and act like a subject expert. There is an abyss amidst.
Clearing upsc exam in India is an achievement only at personal level unless someone becomes the next T. N. Seshan (the man who single handedly reformed the Indian election system). This guy or Tina Dabi or the ....UPSC topper from early 1990s nobody will even remember them a few years later/once they retire. I have no issues with IIT/IIM toppers like this guy clearing UPSC exam but they shouldn't expect others to believe their "reasoning" for clearing this exam(aka to serve the nation/society).
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Snapz wrote:
Repercussions are much more than “punishment desk job”.
I was talking about "simple refusals", not become the second Ashok Khemka. In any case the worst repercussions an IAS can experience is transfer every few months(the only IAS officer I know having experienced the worst repercussions probably since 1947 was Gautam Goswami).
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guest_999 wrote:
I was talking about "simple refusals", not become the second Ashok Khemka. In any case the worst repercussions an IAS can experience is transfer every few months(the only IAS officer I know having experienced the worst repercussions probably since 1947 was Gautam Goswami).
Even if we talk only about Transfer every few months, its not easy. You can’t do any meaningful work, you won’t be able to make connections, you’ll be left behind your peers and life of kids n better half would suffer. It all seem easy from third person’s perspective, but see it from the eyes of one who’s a dreamer n ambitious and thought that now he got something to make his life (got into IAS).
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Even if we talk only about Transfer every few months, its not easy. You can’t do any meaningful work, you won’t be able to make connections, you’ll be left behind your peers and life of kids n better half would suffer. It all seem easy from third person’s perspective, but see it from the eyes of one who’s a dreamer n ambitious and thought that now he got something to make his life (got into IAS).
That's why I said not to become second Khemka. One can practically ask for a posting in any of the board/corp office in state capital doing god knows what only on papers with little to zero public awareness & spend their time sitting in an office with nothing much to do other than passing time by talking on mobile. Even this though is not acceptable to majority of IAS(a few years stint in a state capital with no "real work" is a dream posting for many in lesser positioned govt services with not much power anyway). The way I see it only two types of ppl make it into IAS: Those who think at personal level & getting it becomes hallmark of their entire life with nothing else mattering so no confrontation with politicians & just do what is told(depending on who the PM/CM is because if weak PM/CM then no need to listen) OR those who dream to do big to make their job matters but then face the reality & either become disillusioned or in minority cases become rebels like Khemka or that IAS officer who resigned over art 370 nullification.
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That's why I said not to become second Khemka. One can practically ask for a posting in any of the board/corp office in state capital doing god knows what only on papers with little to zero public awareness & spend their time sitting in an office with nothing much to do other than passing time by talking on mobile. Even this though is not acceptable to majority of IAS(a few years stint in a state capital with no "real work" is a dream posting for many in lesser positioned govt services with not much power anyway). The way I see it only two types of ppl make it into IAS: Those who think at personal level & getting it becomes hallmark of their entire life with nothing else mattering so no confrontation with politicians & just do what is told(depending on who the PM/CM is because if weak PM/CM then no need to listen) OR those who dream to do big to make their job matters but then face the reality & either become disillusioned or in minority cases become rebels like Khemka or that IAS officer who resigned over art 370 nullification.

Ohh.. there’s a third kind… those who gets work done and because of them, this system is still running. They form the majority of bureaucrats, certainty more than Khemkas n Quitters.

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Both are right on their part. The guy choose a subject which helps him to score high marks. The panelist was fed up with majority students choosing the same easy subjects.
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