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What do you guys think on the day by day increasing agitation of the farmers around Delhi against the new farm laws. Farmers have also called for a nationwide one day strike on 8th December.

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After going through the provisions of the laws, they have come to the conclusion that these are anti-farmer laws. So they want them withdrawn.

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panchabhut wrote:

After going through the provisions of the laws, they have come to the conclusion that these are anti-farmer laws. So they want them withdrawn.

The main question is whether these laws will get repealed or not..

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I don’t think dimers have any say here (unless someone is also a farmer)
It’s between the government and farmers.
We should be supporting the farmers in all cases though, governments keep coming and going, farmers are permanent smile

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silentOBSERVER wrote:

The main question is whether these laws will get repealed or not..

Whether that happens or not, the truth is that the current situation of farmers isn’t promising too wink
Except for punjab and haryana.Here farmers are much better than other parts of the country

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androgame wrote:

I don’t think dimers have any say here (unless someone is also a farmer)
It’s between the government and farmers.
We should be supporting the farmers in all cases though, governments keep coming and going, farmers are permanent smile

one farmer was saying we get only 7 rupees per kg for potatoes as against retail price of 50+

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desiman wrote:

one farmer was saying we get only 7 rupees per kg for potatoes as against retail price of 50+

Main crops here in punjab are wheat and rice and farmers get close to MSP for these in real.
The situation of veggie farmers is actually bad wink

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androgame wrote:

Whether that happens or not, the truth is that the current situation of farmers isn’t promising too wink
Except for punjab and haryana.Here farmers are much better than other parts of the country

But the point is that neither the farmers of Punjab find these laws as panacea nor the farmers of rest of India

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The system has misunderstood MSP for “Maximum selling price”
Hardly any farmer gets MSP, getting higher than that is a dream

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silentOBSERVER wrote:

But the point is that neither the farmers of Punjab find these laws as panacea nor the farmers of rest of India

Yeah, but I am not an expert in this field to comment on the technicalities.
Ultimately, the farmers are the users of the law, so it should be framed as per their wish in my opinion

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desiman wrote:

one farmer was saying we get only 7 rupees per kg for potatoes as against retail price of 50+

That’s true…the big stockists have started to stock it as the new laws allow anyone to stock as much as they can and then they can create shortness in the market for the prices to shoot up and then dump there stockpiles

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Those who are concerned about farmers should definitely read all M swaminathan committee reports and the inflation trap for not giving farmers their due share.

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androgame wrote:

Yeah, but I am not an expert in this field to comment on the technicalities.
Ultimately, the farmers are the users of the law, so it should be framed as per their wish in my opinion

Quite true

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Bimbasar wrote:

Those who are concerned about farmers should definitely read all M swaminathan committee reports and the inflation trap for not giving farmers their due share.

Went through the same…inflation has already shooted up..but the prices of veggies haven’t caught the same pace…swaminathan report has given an ideal situation which is not at all possible but the report has also not given any point for the application/formation of these laws

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Bimbasar wrote:

Those who are concerned about farmers should definitely read all M swaminathan committee reports and the inflation trap for not giving farmers their due share.

Are you concerned about the government? As you wrote "those who are concerned about the farmers "..
The most basic thing the farmers are asking the government to repeal those new laws brother…

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As per these laws, foodgrains, onions, vegetables and pulses are no longer essential items and hoarding is no longer illegal. So if the laws stay, be prepared pay more for your food.

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panchabhut wrote:

As per these laws, foodgrains, onions, vegetables and pulses are no longer essential items and hoarding is no longer illegal. So if the laws stay, be prepared pay more for your food.

Aren’t we already paying more wink

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If anyone came accross an unbiased article about this please give a link.

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Simbha3 wrote:

If anyone came accross an unbiased article about this please give a link.

+1, every author sharing his POV. Only extremes available, nothing balanced

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desiman wrote:

one farmer was saying we get only 7 rupees per kg for potatoes as against retail price of 50+

Settings msp in that case will help them no?

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Simbha3 wrote:

Settings msp in that case will help them no?

Yeah but MSP should also be kept as such to keep in mind the inflation index. Because setting a high msp and legalizing it will also have effects on the citizen. So there should be a balance between the both.

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Simbha3 wrote:

Settings msp in that case will help them no?

That is what they are asking, MSP for each and every crop (MSP is currently limited to very few crops)
Secondly, the system is corrupt, for many crops MSP is there in papers, but actual market trades don’t happen that way. Farmers don’t have any bargaining power due to perishable nature of their produce and no grievance redressal mechanism.

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