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What do you guys think on the day by day increasing agitation of the farmers around Delhi against the new farm laws. Farmers have also called for a nationwide one day strike on 8th December.

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badkarma wrote:

Protest is completely hijacked. Real farmers are less than 5% in that fake protest who are brainwashed. Farmers don’t have enough money to bring tractor to delhi from punjab which will cost 10,000 to 20,000 rs of fuel. They said they have ration of 3 months. From where they get so much money. They are eating chole, puri, paneer, fruits. Which farmers have so much money

Actually farmers do have this much money(all my farmer friends are). This is just their bad habits of Daily HARD DRINKS and other addictions which makes them sell their lands.

Moreover, you are right, Food products are specially sent by other Political party local leaders to that farmers don’t end their protest. 

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badkarma wrote:

Protest is completely hijacked. Real farmers are less than 5% in that fake protest who are brainwashed. Farmers don’t have enough money to bring tractor to delhi from punjab which will cost 10,000 to 20,000 rs of fuel. They said they have ration of 3 months. From where they get so much money. They are eating chole, puri, paneer, fruits. Which farmers have so much money

You know the capacity of SGPC?
(That is a political organization too?)

Dont know why the government is entertaining a fake protest then wink
Also, would like to know the exact number of people involved in this event , i think you are the only person in this world to know that exactly (upon which you calculated an approximation of 5%)

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androgame wrote:

You know the capacity of SGPC?
(That is a political organization too?)

Dont know why the government is entertaining a fake protest then wink
Also, would like to know the exact number of people involved in this event , i think you are the only person in this world to know that exactly (upon which you calculated an approximation of 5%)

First, They don’t even know why they are protesting against the bill. They are raising irrevelant slogans now which has nothing to do with farm bills. Poster related to caa, nrc uapa, article 370, death threat, religious hate are coming up. Today they have attacked journalist and cameraman. These are not the work of farmers

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badkarma wrote:

A real farmer means a person who is really a farmer in real life & is not present there for doing politics

Students should not protest as they should study, farmers should not do protest as they should do farming, citizens should not protest as they should be busy with there daily life chores. Then who should protest?? Or there should not be any protest?? Government can’t be 100% right and we have every right to protest. so start thinking from the farmers lenses and stop defending the government by discrediting the protesters by labeling them from khalistani to caa supporters. Accept the fact that PM modi can do wrong. You don’t always have to defend him.

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badkarma wrote:

First, They don’t even know why they are protesting against the bill. They are raising irrevelant slogans now which has nothing to do with farm bills. Poster related to caa, nrc uapa, article 370, death threat, religious hate are coming up. Today they have attacked journalist and cameraman. These are not the work of farmers

Okay, so 1 lakh people attacked a journalist?
Or 1 lakh people raised a slogan?
Also. Preferably watch local channels (Zee punjab, news 18 punjab, ptc, abp punjab)
National media is “incapable” of properly reporting this, because there are multiple issues at the national level and they need to devote time to them too.

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Today Ravi Shankar Prasad (Union Minister of Law and Justice) presented some facts that Congress, NCP and many other parties were in favour of totally close APMCs.
and now all these parties are opposing it. In fact, in new law there is no such point that APMCs will be closed.

I am son of farmer. In agriculture secotor only middle men are earning handsome amount. so in new law if there is provision that farmer can directly sale their crop what is wrong in it?
ex: Before a month we and many other farmers in my village sold bringles at Rs.1/kg to a middle man in APMC and on same day in local market bringles were being sold at Rs35/kg. Who earned here?
If there were private player, if they even give Rs.5-10/kg, it could increase income many fold.
Yesterday one journalist presented some data that in Gujarat only 35-40% agriculture productions being sold in APMC. so 60% are being sold directly to private business or local market.
Same way, there are couple of states ( i don’t remember names ) in that only 6-7% farmers are selling crop in APMC.
I know some farmer who doing contract farming who selling potatos to Lays, McDonal etc and earning around 5-7 time more than normal formers.

So i think current introduced law is balanced, who want to sale in APMC can go there and who don’t like APMC can sale directly to private business or market leagally.
Also, if big companies are paying high, what is wrong in doing contract farming?

If middle man are there, farmers can’t earn properly.

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Par_ wrote:

Today Ravi Shankar Prasad (Union Minister of Law and Justice) presented some facts that Congress, NCP and many other parties were in favour of totally close APMCs.
and now all these parties are opposing it. In fact, in new law there is no such point that APMCs will be closed.

I am son of farmer. In agriculture secotor only middle men are earning handsome amount. so in new law if there is provision that farmer can directly sale their crop what is wrong in it?
ex: Before a month we and many other farmers in my village sold bringles at Rs.1/kg to a middle man in APMC and on same day in local market bringles were being sold at Rs35/kg. Who earned here?
If there were private player, if they even give Rs.5-10/kg, it could increase income many fold.
Yesterday one journalist presented some data that in Gujarat only 35-40% agriculture productions being sold in APMC. so 60% are being sold directly to private business or local market.
Same way, there are couple of states ( i don’t remember names ) in that only 6-7% farmers are selling crop in APMC.
I know some farmer who doing contract farming who selling potatos to Lays, McDonal etc and earning around 5-7 time more than normal formers.

So i think current introduced law is balanced, who want to sale in APMC can go there and who don’t like APMC can sale directly to private business or market leagally.
Also, if big companies are paying high, what is wrong in doing contract farming?

If middle man are there, farmers can’t earn properly.

Corporate will be new middleman with large powers compared to current middle man. Say one country where contract farming is successful.u didn’t know about lays case in court against farmers

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rajashankar wrote:

Corporate will be new middleman with large powers compared to current middle man. Say one country where contract farming is successful.u didn’t know about lays case in court against farmers

sab faltu tukka hai and hypothetical…
there would competition between comapnies as well and at last APMCs are already there, and there are small agricultural industries. so there would be good competition to purchase crop.
and at least there will not be situation like buy at Rs1/kg from farmer and sale at Rs.35/kg in market.
Some people has created atmosphere such that East India company coming and will make all people slave.

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Par_ wrote:

sab faltu tukka hai and hypothetical…
there would competition between comapnies as well and at last APMCs are already there, and there are small agricultural industries. so there would be good competition to purchase crop.
and at least there will not be situation like buy at Rs1/kg from farmer and sale at Rs.35/kg in market.
Some people has created atmosphere such that East India company coming and will make all people slave.

say one country where contract farming is successful. apmc will be demolished in 2 years. if supply shortage only create competition but india is surplus in many. corporate will be successful only if they do it in large scale for that large money needed.

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rajashankar wrote:

say one country where contract farming is successful. apmc will be demolished in 2 years. if supply shortage only create competition but india is surplus in many. corporate will be successful only if they do it in large scale for that large money needed.

Who said APMC will be demolished in 2 years?
and farmer don’t like contract farming they grow their own and can sell in APMC. all options are open.
and even currently not all farmer are selling in APMC.

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Par_ wrote:

Today Ravi Shankar Prasad (Union Minister of Law and Justice) presented some facts that Congress, NCP and many other parties were in favour of totally close APMCs.
and now all these parties are opposing it. In fact, in new law there is no such point that APMCs will be closed.

I am son of farmer. In agriculture secotor only middle men are earning handsome amount. so in new law if there is provision that farmer can directly sale their crop what is wrong in it?
ex: Before a month we and many other farmers in my village sold bringles at Rs.1/kg to a middle man in APMC and on same day in local market bringles were being sold at Rs35/kg. Who earned here?
If there were private player, if they even give Rs.5-10/kg, it could increase income many fold.
Yesterday one journalist presented some data that in Gujarat only 35-40% agriculture productions being sold in APMC. so 60% are being sold directly to private business or local market.
Same way, there are couple of states ( i don’t remember names ) in that only 6-7% farmers are selling crop in APMC.
I know some farmer who doing contract farming who selling potatos to Lays, McDonal etc and earning around 5-7 time more than normal formers.

So i think current introduced law is balanced, who want to sale in APMC can go there and who don’t like APMC can sale directly to private business or market leagally.
Also, if big companies are paying high, what is wrong in doing contract farming?

If middle man are there, farmers can’t earn properly.

At what price did you sell your paddy this year?

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silentOBSERVER wrote:

Any specific reason for not growing it this time brother?? Just asking.

No specific reason. It depends on my father and my uncle.

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silentOBSERVER wrote:

At what rate did people around you sold the paddy?

I didn’t know it. i didn’t get chance to visit village since march because of Covid.

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Par_ wrote:

I didn’t know it. i didn’t get chance to visit village since march because of Covid.

At what price did you sell last year brother?

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silentOBSERVER wrote:

At what price did you sell last year brother?

Seems like you want to know something else…
I belong to IT industry for last 14years.. my father and uncle both Combinedly look after our farms.
so some specific incidence or some current problems i knew about farms.
for historical price i need to check our notes.
I can say you about historical price about what i took from my client… stuck_out_tongue
now i am planning to start organic farming in next couple of years…

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Par_ wrote:

Seems like you want to know something else…
I belong to IT industry for last 14years.. my father and uncle both Combinedly look after our farms.
so some specific incidence or some current problems i knew about farms.
for historical price i need to check our notes.
I can say you about historical price about what i took from my client… stuck_out_tongue
now i am planning to start organic farming in next couple of years…

No brother, you wrote a long post saying about farming so I was just curious to know how much is the current pricing but unfortunately it’s missing from the post..that’s it brother sweat_smile

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An ye kaun bol rha hai.. ki FARMER PROTEST ko support karne wale ab INDIAGATE, LAYS, PEPSICO ka bhi boycott kar rhe hai sweat_smile sweat_smile

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