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I have created a thread for f&o trading experience. Any one having strategies or their experience they want to share please try to share it .

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I kn few who comitted suicide and lost crores n had to sell their der houses. So avoid. If still want to break head go with equity trading.

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I myself have started dealing with options n futures. First I understood all the Greeks and how they affect the premium value. And To be on the safer side I chose to be an option seller( I have savings) . Selling only call options( selling pe is really risky as market can go down 10-15% in one day but it always takes time to go up).
Then I created my mindset as in how much profit I need per month with my capital. According to that I take my trade which is usually far out of the money to avoid delta and take advantage of theta. And roughly I am able to make 5-8% profit per month out of it. But do remember to put SL. Strategy and mindset is the game.

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looterababua wrote:

I kn few who comitted suicide and lost crores n had to sell their der houses. So avoid. If still want to break head go with equity trading.

high leverage makes it so deadly

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Theoptionguy wrote:

I am an option seller. I work for a big firm which I can’t disclose. Option selling looks like a risky business but it’s not. You can always hedge your positions to avoid black swans. The only thing bad with option selling is huge margins. However I trade with a capital of 2cr and I short only index options. There are some strategies and some exit points.

Can we sell call of nifty ce 11000

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nitin_nks_sharma698 wrote:

I myself have started dealing with options n futures. First I understood all the Greeks and how they affect the premium value. And To be on the safer side I chose to be an option seller( I have savings) . Selling only call options( selling pe is really risky as market can go down 10-15% in one day but it always takes time to go up).
Then I created my mindset as in how much profit I need per month with my capital. According to that I take my trade which is usually far out of the money to avoid delta and take advantage of theta. And roughly I am able to make 5-8% profit per month out of it. But do remember to put SL. Strategy and mindset is the game.

How much total taxes levied on selling call option

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MrKool_JJ wrote:

Someone just said it right people who are in science background are more into this actually toungueout

Ha ha.

Don’t know about others, I personally have knowledge & interest in all financial products.

U will hardly find me here on discussing medical topics but will find me in many financial thread grinning

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nitin_nks_sharma698 wrote:

I myself have started dealing with options n futures. First I understood all the Greeks and how they affect the premium value. And To be on the safer side I chose to be an option seller( I have savings) . Selling only call options( selling pe is really risky as market can go down 10-15% in one day but it always takes time to go up).
Then I created my mindset as in how much profit I need per month with my capital. According to that I take my trade which is usually far out of the money to avoid delta and take advantage of theta. And roughly I am able to make 5-8% profit per month out of it. But do remember to put SL. Strategy and mindset is the game.

I was selling same last year. Earned for 6 months & then one fine day Nirmala announced tax cut & in 2 days nifty rose 1000 points. Took away my 6 month’s profit…

No Delta, vega, theta helps in such situation…

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drjpatwa wrote:

Ha ha.

Don’t know about others, I personally have knowledge & interest in all financial products.

U will hardly find me here on discussing medical topics but will find me in many financial thread grinning

That’s what smiley

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tushar2244 wrote:

Can we sell call of nifty ce 11000

I personally feel market is bullish right now. However the 11000 ce which you are willing to sell won’t even give you return more than fd. So I would rather avoid selling 11k smile

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psgguy480 wrote:

Share some strategies

There are various strategies I use:
Monthly stable income-
1. Iron fly
2. Triple butterfly
3. Iron condor.

Intraday
1. Naked option selling with stop loss according to trend.
2. Momentum and divergence based option selling.
3. Short strangle for Wednesday and Thursday.

Obviously it’s easier said than done. The reason why I earn a decent return is not because of strategies, it’s because of money management. Amateurs will tend to blow up their capital just after a series of small losses.

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drjpatwa wrote:

I was selling same last year. Earned for 6 months & then one fine day Nirmala announced tax cut & in 2 days nifty rose 1000 points. Took away my 6 month’s profit…

No Delta, vega, theta helps in such situation…

Actually avoiding trading on those volatile days is better.
Options selling is best done at less volatile days or if the premiums have shot up a lot n expiry is near, remember election days, made money by buying banknifty options before Exit poll. It was Friday n options premium were really high, I remember 1 lot of banknifty CE costed me around 14-15k. Money almost got doubled on Monday, on Tuesday it got reduced but by Wednesday day end money shot up again, I exited my position that day. On Thursday premiums kept on rising. At 11 pm premiums started declining. My friend had bought a Reliance CE that day, lost 7k, and I had to repay him that money even though he didn’t ask for it. I asked him to take some risk again, I added some capital of mine. We shorted banknifty from both side. He earned around 12k, I earned around 9k on expiry. We bought Mahindra (I don’t remember the price), ashok leyland at 90 ce maybe, 2 lot each. Next day we got showered in money.
Today look back and think that it was a really stupid thing to do. It’s just pure luck made us some money that day.
Technicals don’t work on such days. I am still trying to figure out what happened. I ll never take such daredevil risk again. 2019 has been a really lucky year for me though. Got IndiaMART, irctc, metropolitan and Affle in their respective IPOs. 🙂

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drjpatwa wrote:

Ha ha.

Don’t know about others, I personally have knowledge & interest in all financial products.

U will hardly find me here on discussing medical topics but will find me in many financial thread grinning

Bhau jo newbies options options ho rhe ek ek injection lagwa do unhe. 🤡

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Theoptionguy wrote:

There are various strategies I use:
Monthly stable income-
1. Iron fly
2. Triple butterfly
3. Iron condor.

Intraday
1. Naked option selling with stop loss according to trend.
2. Momentum and divergence based option selling.
3. Short strangle for Wednesday and Thursday.

Obviously it’s easier said than done. The reason why I earn a decent return is not because of strategies, it’s because of money management. Amateurs will tend to blow up their capital just after a series of small losses.

Thank you will do some research.
I have initiated a iron condor on friday
9800 ce sell
9900 ce sell
10000ce buy
10100 ce buy

9000pe sell
8900pe sell
8800pe buy
8700pe buy

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rajbswzz wrote:

I made 1.5 lakh this month via naked option selling.
I think i am just lucky. Now I will never ever trade more than 10k in my life

Share us ur strategy bro, how far otm indix/stock u sold

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I know CALL (CE)and PUT..wanted to know can I sell CE and can hold it till expiry ?

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Bharat-Obama wrote:

I know CALL (CE)and PUT..wanted to know can I sell CE and can hold it till expiry ?

Yes you can. In case you hold stock based options, you need to have that much stocks at your disposal, otherwise you need to have that much money in your trading account. In case you you don’t have the stocks available, then the broker will try to procure the stocks for you, penalty, premium ll give you some trouble. So try to square off on expiry.
Yes, if it’s out of the money option, no need to worry. 🙂🙂🙂 It’s just it ll be a difficult matter to prove your income to income tax.

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I guess blogging is the most profitable thing with very good ROI. I have some idle blogs and they produce around 10x ROI every year.

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from current situation invest in liquidity

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nse screws badly all bank nifty sellers. exchange was sending prices as if person holding is in profit, he couldn’t square off at limit price and if squared off at market price, profits converted in 4 times loss. kuch bhi ho jaye, waat lagna pakka hai. lekin phir bhi aa bail mujhe maar wale har taraf mil jayenge. toungueout

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Ashoka_ wrote:

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if u r so sure trade yourself and make money don,t advertise here

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Ashoka_ wrote:

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If you are so sure give me your money to do a test trading.

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marketdimer wrote:

nse screws badly all bank nifty sellers. exchange was sending prices as if person holding is in profit, he couldn’t square off at limit price and if squared off at market price, profits converted in 4 times loss. kuch bhi ho jaye, waat lagna pakka hai. lekin phir bhi aa bail mujhe maar wale har taraf mil jayenge. toungueout

Can you elaborate, what happened

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thewinner wrote:

I guess blogging is the most profitable thing with very good ROI. I have some idle blogs and they produce around 10x ROI every year.

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Simple logic….be ready with how much amount is okay for u to loose and keep ur stoploss before taking the trade. It will help u and and always trail SL If the trade is in ur direction. Target for 1:1 returns initially and when u are comfortable take risk.

Never buy options in the last week of month especially stock options. Theta decay will be more.

Never buy options before quarterly results of a stock. Volatility will be more before the results and crashes after the results.

Newbies trade in Nifty options and avoid banknifty(wild animal)

When u got profit…with draw the profited amount at eod and keep just the capital. It will make u to avoid over trading

If you book loss(SL with comfortable loss is must) dont do revenge trading on that day without any logic. You will endup in losses

Above all always remember you have another day to trade so capital preservation is must

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Which trading system is best for nse market in mt4 plz suggest

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Buy 10500 Nifty Call of 02.07.2020 Expiry tomorrow around 25 and double your Money by tomorrow only. Very aggressive put writing is seen and all of them are to be covered by tomorrow which will lead market to 10540. Don’t be Greedy and Thank me later.

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Puneet_Goyal wrote:

Buy 10500 Nifty Call of 02.07.2020 Expiry tomorrow around 25 and double your Money by tomorrow only. Very aggressive put writing is seen and all of them are to be covered by tomorrow which will lead market to 10540. Don’t be Greedy and Thank me later.

What’s your opinion about sbi

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Which broker provide high margin for option selling in nrml

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