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i consider myself good at studies. 

i always feared of failure in one subject social science during school days. Thats because of history.

But i mugged up important questions in history and that has a complete history of winners from moghul dynasty. Rest of indian kings come and go like special roles in movies or item songs.

some teachers used to teach off topics from history like purushottam king, chandragupta mourya, king cholas, chatrapathi sivaji etc. In higher classes suddenly it teaches the great revolt 1857 and indian independence. Then diverts to stalin, lenin, hitler, churchil, lincoln, boston tea party, french revolution, bolshviks, civil wars in europe.

i feel like “kuch panne missing hain history mein”. Why sudden jump from 1857 to independence and foreign tours. Later i forgot it like my contemporaries and worried about job oriented studies to secure jobs. Then came only man PV narisimha rao and i never need to get into govt. jobs, hence no touch of history. The IT job boiled any thrust of caring for others and evaporated any wet left in me. 

suddenly a moment of truth appeared and opened hidden files in me and i am still connecting missing links. 

so much * brain washed * over years

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kuch trick mile to mujhe bhi btana sb kichdi ho jata haii

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Starting from Delhi Sultanat & the slave dynasty started by Qutb ud-Din Aibak(one who got constructed the famous Qutub Minar in Delhi) the Delhi Sultanat always acted as a guard of the northern frontiers of India at least till Aurangzeb’s rule after which Mughal dynasty became weak resulting in infamous plunder & massacre in Delhi by Nader Shah who took the Kohinoor Diamond & Peacock throne from Mughals. Later Marathas tried to carry this role of protecting northern frontiers unsuccessfully in famous 3rd battle of Panipat where they lost miserably paving the way for the rise of British Empire in India. This is why a majority of Indian history is focused on Delhi Sultanat/Mughal Dynasty because it shaped the destiny of India as it is known today both by their successes & failures.

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Seems like the History of Delhi is being painted as ‘History of India’ which doesn’t make sense 

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I don’t know which board you studied and when you studied the years I mean. Also I don’t know the syllabus of the current time.

But I would like to say that what we are thought in school is just a jest or would say the main events which atleast you should know . From that point of view I don’t think I missed anything in my school days.

If you say you missed what happened after 1947 I would agree because we are not taught that but before that I don’t think so.

Do you think that entire history can be taught to us in school and on top of that History is not liked by many. Most mug up for the exams and then don’t remember anything. So who is at fault here?

I would like to tell what I was taught in my school days to best of my ability as I remember.

I studied in Maharashtra state board , so a major portion was related to Maratha Empire as well.

If I go in chronological order , started with Evolution of Human- Neanderthal ,Cro-Magnon man, Homo Sapiens.

Then history of India during the BC period , major names I remember are Magadh,Pataliputra cities and Mauryan empire Ashoka, Bimbisara,Kanishka.Then there were some details of Alexander the great. Names of the major kings who ruled Delhi till Prithivraj Chauhan.

Also had some chapters about  Egyptian civilization, Greek civilization.

Some chapters on the south Indian empires Vijaynagara empire, Cholas.

For me I think the Delhi Sultanate and Mughals were covered in 2 chapters. give me benefit of doubt and lets say 3 chapters then about the start and rise of Maratha empire majorly about Shivaji Maharaj.

I do remember about American and French revolution but I think both were in a single chapter. French Revolution was important because the ideas of freedom and fraternity came from there,

Also something about the Renaissance period , don’t remember the details but. 

10th I remember , the first 4 chapters were related to world war 1 and 2 and then Indian history starting just before 1857 till 1947 and some events after that too like French giving up their territories and the liberation of Goa. Even the works of many social leaders like Mahtma Jyotirao Phule, Raja Ram Mohun Roy, Ishwar chandra vidyasagar and many others.

I think all the major events were mentioned and all freedom fighters even some foreigners who supported Indian independence movement, many names I too don’t remember now.

So according to me if you feel you don’t know something, please check online and read about it. Also now a days people are divided basis who wrote what and which are the correct history details. Thats upto you who you want to believe but please do read more sources if it is a controversial topic.

While writing this post , most names spelling had to google, others auto-correct helped; so I’ m sorry and please don’t get offended if you feel the spellings are not correct.

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“History is written by the victors”. We know who were the victors from the past  500 years and they destroyed our previous history. Made sure only the history of them and their forefathers existed. Without written evidences we probably don’t have much to read from as to what existed before that. Since the mughals couldn’t make too much inroads into south India there are some sort of good content about south History (maybe I studied in karnataka so we had quite of lot of it to study). 

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Out of all the history I was taught I only remember French revolution, ww1 and 2, 1857 revolt, independence struggle and some bits of akbar. 


I don’t think any other substantial topic was taught in history till 10th grade (that was the last year I read history in school) 


Had a compulsory elective in graduation about history and culture of punjab, read complete about Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism there. I remember this significantly because this is as fresh as it gets in the memory. 


Edit-Studied ancient harappa and stuff in both places too, but wasn’t really interested in that old things so mind automatically deleted it I think. 


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History they teach in school is Fiction

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history me hitler,  french revolution , Nationalism in Europe , ye sb bakwass padhaya jata h 

jiska hmare future job se b kuch lena dena nhi h 

kash hmari education ministry ispar dhyan deke isko change kre , Indian history hi pdhai jae sirf na ki bahar ki faltu bkwas

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sorry I think you don’t understand the importance of history then.
you know of a saying history repeats itself.
History is the reason why the current world functions like it is now, In Science don’t we say understand the reason why it happens like this ?
Hitler … didn’t you understand why we are taught that…. how mad men can influence the public, fill people with hatred and do such bad things…
French revolution..most modern democracies are influenced by it and take ideas like freedoms and civic liberties mentioned during that time.

On a lighter and satirical note… how would you blame Nehru for all the problems existing today?

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Nalanda university was ahead of its time and was burned down by raiders

After recovering khilji was shocked by the fact that an Indian scholar and teacher had more knowledge than his princes and countryman. After this, he decided to destroy the roots of Buddhism and Ayurveda. As a result, Khilji set fire to the great library of Nalanda and burned around 9 million manuscripts.

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By ‘Bhaktiyar Khilji’ and we have a place called ‘Bhaktiyarpur’, Bihar smh

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@guest_999 ; @playdime  ; @radhe786 I would still say that history taught to me was not focused on Delhi ;in my case maybe history related to Maharashtra was , as I was in state board but does that mean I don’t know other things.

Please read my post, https://www.desidime.com/discussions/history-fo...

I think it is what we remember and what is discussed more now a days..

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 Nehru and his posse has tried hard to steer the real history of India to appease a few.  Just check our history after 1910 AD. Khilafat movement is celebrated as a national movement. People like Aurobindo are known as only monks. We dont know their involvement in independence of India. Veer Savarkar is portrayed as a terrorist. Real terrorists are given stature of freedom fighters. Only Gandhi and his posse are given importance. Only non violent movement gave independence to India! What about Subhas Bose, Bhagat Singh? Leftist Historians like Bipin Chandra are given priority. Indians are made to feel pity for their own sorrow. Surprisingly they feel very proud about it. It is a long long story. When you speak a lie 1000 times one is bound to take it as truth. A lot of people were sent to Kalapani. We read about The discovery of India by Nehru. What about other! I am so shameless that I don’t know about them. Gotta Google. 😭😭😭 At least I am admitting it. 

If the above statement is false then check the whereabouts of Indian Freedom Fighters. A lot of them perished in impoverished condition. India has treated her real heroes in a very very bad way.

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I didn’t learn about ‘Maharaja Ranjith Singh’, the Ahoms in the North-East, the Rasthrakutas, Pallavas, Cholas, the Chalukyas. Had one paragraph each on Marathas, Shivaji, and Subhash Chandra Bhose.

“India is the only major civilizational country where you are systematically taught to hate your heritage and glorify the invaders who came to destroy it. And this [absurdity] is called ‘secularism’." – Sankrant Sanu

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My history teacher used to make me sit in her chair and tell me to teach the class.

Not because I was good in history, I used to make a lot of mischief in her class ..

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If people crying here are really missing history, they should have majored in history and done a Ph.D.
If i have to be honest, i can’t read volumes and volumes of history for exams, just to satisfy my ego.
The syllabus doesn’t include all and sundry for an obvious reason, we were kids and can take only that much.

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True people are telling we missed , but do they even remember what was taught to them in the first place.

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Problem lies with our education policy which was designed by British for clerical workforce ie RRR ( Reading wRiting aRithmatic)
We need The combination of bright Head, skilled Hands and a compassionate Heart (3H) which is the very essence of education.
3R to 3H: The Next Learning Revolution by Sonam Wangchuk

https://www.hindustantimes.com/education/don-t-...

Nobody killed my curiosity. As it was kept alive, I learnt many things. Curiosity is a software in a child installed by nature. We have seen kitten jumping over its mother’s tail. The kitten is not playing. Instead he is doing serious business as its mother cat teaches it to develop skills.”

To wrest initiative and take part when opportunity comes to your way. Action leads to experience and experience of doing something gives us confidence and leads to success.”

Children are often forced to maintain pin-drop silence in classroom by their teachers. By doing so all their energies, physical, spiritual, and emotional, are curbed in such a setting where he/she is bound to get demotivated. In the contrary children should be encouraged to ask questions.

Perfect schooling should have three ingredients, head, hand and heart. Skilled hand and bright head alone are not enough until you develop a kind heart that is ready to help and never do any harm.


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Is this the same Sonam Wangchuk who inspired the movie 3 idiots ?

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To be honest I don’t see any benefit in learning about Maharajas and their stupid wars. which country does not have kings, on the other hand western history is fascinating, we get to learn about hitler n Nazi Germany, n how he brain washed millions of ppl,  heroshima n Nagasaki bombing, Marx and Lenin failures and concept of communism, Socrates, Aristotle, industrial revolution, violent french revolution, blacks fighting segregation, Spaniards bringing plagues to then native countries.compared to that India is pretty much uneventful, and hence ignored.

in order to be remembered,u have to be unique, here only Gandhi was, while american french got freedom through violence, Gandhi chose the   unconventional way, non violence which was never heard of before.

in the end it doesn’t matter if these ppl , win or lose, what matters is,  if their ideas or methods are unique. only then they will find place in history, like hitler or Lenin, although lost, but remembered studied forever

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To be honest I don’t see any benefit in learning about Maharajas and their stupid wars. which country does not have kings, on the other hand western history is fascinating,

That’s because people have forgotten their own history. No matter how much information one collects about toilet paper n Western toilet, an average Indian ll still need to use squat type toilet n water. 🙂 I am not meaning to offend anyone. Indian style is the best style n it’s more eco friendly in nature. 🙂


in order to be remembered,u have to be unique, only Gandhi was, he chose unconventional way to fight for freedom, non violence

Non Violence alone didn’t bring freedom. Otherwise they, leaders of post independent India, didn’t have to send military forces to annexe belligerent states. 🙂 They would have sent band of Satyagrahis with lathis n topi. They would have sat on their borders n done fasts. When India fought with Pakistan they would have sent band of Satyagrahis to pacify belligerent brothers of Indians. 🙂 A tool does not work only once. A knife does not get dull after a session of vegetable chopping. In the end results matter. Western history teaches that for long term peace, short term violence is needed. Peace will come. People ll get prosecuted n punished. But peace demands blood. If you slap me in one chick I ll show you the other. That’s really bad teaching. Si vis pacem para bellum. That’s universal truth which is being practiced by Indian military. And because of unnecessary glorification of impractical stuff, India hasn’t been able to catch up with the world. Chinese did but Indians couldn’t.😞🙏 🙂

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amazon gvs doge 20% off me to wo missing panne me batane ki soch skta hu.

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history nahi hota to humko pata kaise chalta ki “chacha” nehru aur “mahatma” gandhi ne milke desh ki waat lagayi hai aur asli hero subhash chandra bose aur bhagat singh jaise shoor veer hain..

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