Yesterday one senior manager of an IT company was going to work from noida to delhi and in between there was farmers blockade , so traffic was moving slow , he said in very bad tone , that wasting my precious time , why don’t these ppl don’t go anywhere else .
I asked that person do you know a new prime minister house in coming up and new v.p house ..on 2.5 acres of land and 16 storeys ..costing upwards of 15,000crs ? ..he replied ..what on earth i have to do with this ?Then i asked do you know how much tax u payed last year …he said , " yes , that was my hard earned money , it was 15.5 lakh net ..Did u ask the govt where my tax is spended on?
That is the difference , these farmers are standing for there rights , if they won’t stand and won’t create blockades then nobody will listen to them and will be made scapegoats like taxpayers are made …..but we never question ???
and which infrastructure …if road is made , then toll booth are put at every 50kms , so as to collect road cost , along with road taxes which comes with buying new car along with govt duty …., if you travel by air , then every ticket carry airport charges , so which infrastructure is created with this tax money?
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so which infrastructure is created with this tax money?
Start reading/listening Budget presented by Finance ministers….one will know how much tax gets collected and how it is spend.
Farming sector is the one who gets highest freebies and lowest efficiency in production
Highest manpower used still quite less output
Who is to blame?
Vote bank and pathetic MSP..(Every year MSP is increased…which kinds of demotivate any improvement in farming techniques)…
Just one example
If you are businessman/factory owner and there is loss due to heavy rain, cyclone.. etc you have to bear the losses
If you are farmer and you don’t make arrangements for water and there is no rain, it’s the government who pays them for losses (tax payers money)
@manav.choudhry598 and @DaBomb why are you guys mixing landlords with farmers.that’s a different subject.and @manav.choudhry598 you mean to say that industrialization is the only way to development.i beg to differ.when worst case scenarios happened all over the world india stood tall,you know how? Bcoz we have the ample amount of food supplies.we Indians never worried much about food supplies like other countries do.and ya as u asked i proudly say that i and we definitely owe to farmers.
I am confused what do you mean by landlords? Where I am located even a 2-3acre holder is a landlord as his piece of land costs over 8-10crores and they drive big flashy cars and keep a handgun for protection as its a sort of status symbol for them and yet they are farmers on paper, yes I stand with my statement that Industrialisation leads to development and is the only way and not other way around correct me if I am wrong. Well its a free country and everyone can have a opinion and I respect that but I do not owe anything to anyone as I am not a farmer but I worked my ass off to get to where I am right now and paid my dues to society and government, also paid for the food that I ate at non subsidised rate, I never received anything for free. Mate I can be thankful for the wonderful food that I paid for but I do not owe anything.
One of my friend who works in this farming biz, told me when I asked if the farm bills are right or not, that if govt. stops to buy crop from the farmers then farmers will be at the mercy of other companies etc. for selling the crop. Farmer don’t have resources to make their own storage facilities so ultimately they have to sell the crop at what buyer is asking otherwise it will be wasted and also no MSP.
Now I don’t know if it is true but it does explains why farmers are protesting.. any thoughts are welcomed..
Ask him where he read that no MSP? They are just being provided an opportunity to sell to private party at a better rate or sell at the mandi on MSP, please read the bill for once and guide the ones misguided due to petty politics.
If anybody is interested in true information about protesting farmers, farmers have started Twitter handle and Facebook page. @ kisanektamorcha. Because national media now a days is mere government spokesperson.
Wait a sec…why are they on Facebook….
You know right Facebook is investing in Jio…shouldn’t they be boycotting Facebook 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😈😈😈
Murphy law: if something can go wrong then it will go wrong
No point debating ahould and shouldnt on moral compass
You are not single person who pay tax. In india every single person pay tax in different ways. So don’t bark unnecessary things. And start reading little bit of economics about our country.
Do you understand the economics of MSP and the politics behind it. If not don’t accuse other’s of the same.
No point of discussion in this topic.
First of all I don’t support this so called farmers protest cause most of all rich farmers and politicians.
Second thing this bill is correctly resolving farmers issues , don’t see any problem.
Third their agenda is not to make govt repealed the 3 farm law but intension is totally different. I can see it’s more like anti India.
Last but not least I am honest tax payer. Every year I pay tax and this tax is used pay rich farmers.
I’m reality only 10% of farmers are poor in this protest. Rest either rich , politicians or not at all former but daily wedges people.
Apologies if anyone hurt, but it’s Truth
These days if anyone is not agree with the government that person or group is “anti india”. First we need to understand that governments are not country those governments may take wrong decisions and this gives is right to peoples of the country that they can stand against the decision. Saying anti national to anyone is trending these days
Folks please understand we are in a phase where this nation will always remain a third world country without much needed reforms. These farm bills were supported by all the political parties that are today opposing it today. Read about how rampant corruption in APMC is leading to losses to the tune of 1lakh crore or 15 billion USD just in punjab alone and also keeping the farmer at mercy of these mandis.
If farmers stop farming, initially there will be chaos, but it will settle down soon and gives rise to N number of ways of food marketing. But Food production will never come to halt on earth as it still has resources and suitable climate conditions.
Not even majority farmers in Punjab are getting affected.Hopefully this drama is giving good data to our NATGRID and RAW/IB guys.Last time PFI funding sources were exposed through Touheenbhag and acting on that information big gold scam was unearthed which will ultimately take down communists in Kerela.This time Khalistani funding sources are getting exposed through Bigdata.This will be weaponised and these commie and Khalistani rats are going to be roasted.
I have visited interior Punjab long time back.Been to Amritsar many times. and unfortunately the situation has degraded ever since.Costly land prices has ensured that no industry can take off as majority farm land is under cultivation due to MSP.By affected I mean negatively it’s only confusion created in minds of small farmers that new laws will reduce their income and Common farmers who are uncertain how the new system will pan out are falling prey to the prog Anda.Whereas many enterprising farmers are shifting to producing strawberries and other crops and getting very good returns.
Long time back ?
You just said that most farmers in punjab are not protesting 
So i thought, you met those most farmers
Because “most” farmers here grow wheat and rice and sell in APMCs, and those people are protesting.
This statement itself shows what is this all about.
Classic emotional rant disguised as farmer protests.
1. They are not doing any charity, people pay their freebies from their tax money.
2. MSP is joke and apmc eats all the profit, read all m swaminathan committee reports.
3. Let the free market decide the price as its doing in other sectors, everything will have there own share of money.
The real face of protester will come soon in front of india
Why people who are protesting against government are always labelled as some anti nationals? Real faces as per government? Its a bad trend. Democracy is nothing if there is no opposition.
I agree to this – https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/The-u...
Farmers are not so active for their cause. Today you are seeing farmers protest at this level. I have never seen it before even though 55% of population is in this sector. In politics farmers don’t fight for their cause, they are divided like common people(caste, religion, etc).
Here it happened i think with even one big name(not sure about company though), contract was made for a kind of crop but was not bought as per contract and not paid. Caused no or low income for the season. 85% are small farmers. Some private players contracted with farmers for orange production, it was a bit long contract of around 5-7 years with seed and marketing from company and land,labour from farmer. After few years company was nowhere even before trees started producing oranges. It was before these laws but still.
(ii) where the order is against the farmer for recovery of the amount due to the Sponsor on account of any advance payment or cost of inputs, as per terms of farming agreement, such amount shall not exceed the actual cost incurred by the Sponsor.
Yrr.. ye Road wali chiz to meri bhi samajh se bahar hai, jab Public ke paise se Road banaya hai.. to ehsaan thodi kiya hai.. ki TOLL BOOTH chipka dete ho 
Farmers to kush hai is bill se. Kuch logo ko lagta hai ki ye 2-3k log jo pizza kha ke protest karte hai sirf wo kisan hai.
Kabhi Up, mp, bihar yaha ja ke dekho yaha sirf kisan hi h & yaha ke logo ko to koi dikkat ni.
Is bill aane se jin bichaliyo aur rich farmers ka setup disturb hoga wo hi virodh kar rahe hai.
Unhe MSP khatm hone ka dar nahi hai unhen dar hai ki ab poor farmers apni fasal direct bechega.
Ek kaam karo apane dosto se poochho jo kisi gao se belong karte hai ki kya unke gao ke kisan is rule se dukhi hai ? pta chal jaayega.
By the way humari family (uncle in gao)bhi kheti karte hai, my mama & other relatives are full time kisan.
& they are really happy with this rule.
P.s: They r waiting for new year to receive 2k from pm kisan yojna
Hindi aati hai bhai. Hindi bol le. Jabardasti english mat bol.
Please watch this video, it explains a lot of issues related to farm sector
@whitewalkers @guest_999 and all other , @casf.amritsar.punjab9 indirectly accepted that he is spreading lies… please refer : https://www.desidime.com/discussions/if-you-are...
first he wrote that there is clause in the law that “Buyer can end contract at any time but farmer can’t” but later what he said check in above link…
You should read this too.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/if-you-are...
18. No suit, prosecution or other legal proceeding shall lie against the Central Government, the State Government, the Registration Authority, the Sub-Divisional Authority, the Appellate Authority or any other person for anything which is in good faith done or intended to be done under the provisions of this Act or any rule made thereunder.
19. No civil Court shall have jurisdiction to entertain any suit or proceedings in respect of any dispute which a Sub-Divisional Authority or the Appellate Authority is empowered by or under this Act to decide and no injunction shall be granted by any court or other authority in respect of any action taken or to be taken in pursuance of any power conferred by or under this Act or any rules made thereunder.
No civil court. And This is immunity given to SDM and DC for their Decision on any dispute. Any person who belongs to rural area knows how SDM and DC works. They work as mete puppets of ruling party and power. I have personally seen decisions made by SDM court that mostly favor deep pockets and power.
so which infrastructure is created with this tax money?
Start reading/listening Budget presented by Finance ministers….one will know how much tax gets collected and how it is spend.
Farming sector is the one who gets highest freebies and lowest efficiency in production
Highest manpower used still quite less output
Who is to blame?
Just one example
If you are businessman/factory owner and there is loss due to heavy rain, cyclone.. etc you have to bear the losses
If you are farmer and you don’t make arrangements for water and there is no rain, it’s the government who pays them for losses (tax payers money)