IPOs & Stock market - Discussion Thread

One more share which is not doing good but has good value, ptl enterprise on radar. 40 odd price will be awesome buy. It is subsidury of apollo tyres but mainly in hospital business and trading just above fortis (which is down due to all known reason), govt of kerala holds prominent shares and keep it on watch like recently they disallowed demerger which was bad for investors at given price. They hold stake in apollo tyres so basically you buy hospital business and apollo stocks too at petty price, apollo trading around 265, you buy its stake for 40 odd. Has loads of cash so keeps giving dividend, mergers and stake buyings will happen in near future. Stock recently touched below 40 and now 60 in a month. Missed then. Good, very small quantity buy at accumulation on dips, further fall will be more advantage. Let’s wait for market and stock to correct. Targetting 40 odd, again. If doesn’t comes, will move on to next share.

Astron gmp falls to 22-24 levels (most sites still showing 40-50, but does they ever came true? ). But then thats just listing gmp and stock may double in a week due to circuit. If you get, sell the quantity worth 14k and protect the capital. Leave rest stocks for betting on circuits, operators and dii buyings.

Guys whats the view on Waterbase it is being touted as the next avanti feeds

Some comments for PTC INDIA v/s Jindal energy ?

Same way something like
oberai reality v/s irb ?

The Byke Hospitality: Promoter Anil Patodia bought 2.01 lakh shares or 0.5 percent equi

@marketdimer

Jab reliance industries badhta hai to correction hone ka time near hai. Jab rcom badhta hai tab samajh lo correction ka baap hone ka time near hai.

My portfolio is 98% gilt funds. Giving -4% loss to mere 2% profits. It’s really disheartening to see losses every day, all gains made in past 2 years lost in last 2 months. But then when reverse happens, one who had good debt funds will have last laugh. Only question is, when!?

Share market ke upar pesh hai ek sher, mulahiza farmayen -

Bahut charche hain mere naam ke aajkal aur mere jalwe beshumaar hain

Bahut charche hain mere naam ke aajkal aur mere jalwe beshumaar hain

Bhool gaye shayad sabhi ki meri mohabbat mein kitne hue pehle beemaar hain.

I was expecting a fall, may not be 30%. I think ~ 9000 is a good level for the NIFTY. Don’t expect it to happen now unless there are significant international events. Oil prices can play a spoil sport. The euphoria in the market is way too much. The results and ground reality do not support the current pricing.

Securities alloted zero, amount adjusted zero

Share market is all about luck and risk bearing ability.
RCom gave me about 150% profit in just 1 mth. But then, thats all about risk taking, if it had failed, I would have lost my money completely.
Under present scenario, even IPO are not risk free.

India’s market cap to gdp is 100%, usa has 160%. Do we have 60% rally in waiting? Or 60% fall in usa making us dent too?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/st...

What a bad day for my gilt funds. Lost 1-1.25% in what is India’s most secured debts, guaranteed by government of India.

Sucks when pity 2% equity portfolio still gives a percent return even though market closes in red.

These hiccups tests real patience of market timing.

Jitna bhi refund aaya astron ka poora 84k aur udel diya. Saala kab tak test lega. Kabhi to equity girega aur bond badhega. My hunch never proves wrong. Is baar bada lamba imtehaan le rahi hai jindagi. Aur market.

Astron Paper & Board Mill Ltd Lists at 112 (CMP 120)

Nifty Closes Year at 26.92 PE.
In 2008 , Nifty PE reached highest at 28.29.
(Level Equivalent of that would be 11050.)

I too got 0/16

Another small size ipo apollo micro system coming on 10th to make money in behti ganga. It’s lead manager has handled 2 ipo in past and both are now delisted from market. Add to it the company hails from Hyderabad, paradise of shell and fraud companies. Still it will sail through, will get huge subscriptions. And people might make money too.

On the other hand, stocks like tcs, hdfc, reliance, icici, hdfc bank, hero honda, maruti, upl, hcl Infy falling and guess what is rising, adag, suzlon, coal india, axis bank, bhel, sail, mtnl, moser baer, punj and all operator driven punter stocks.. this market is funny!

Mich hype on hero moto corp, sun pharma, jai corp and morepeN

Any forum like dd for stocks ?
Saw moneycontrol ?

The madness in the market shows 12000 may come first then 9000.

But don’t forget your senses.

100 rs stock goes up 300%, becomes 400. It needs just 75% fall to become 100 again. So if you believe a stock can go 300%, be ready to face loss of atleast 75% (because 100% loss will make it 0).

Also 300% requires baby steps while 75% will be a very fast giant leap towards a necessary correction. Beware. Baaki to kuch bhi lo sab upar jayega. Who cares for valuation nowadays.

Morepen- Why it turned out to be a Bagger

https://imgur.com/a...8f

Also sold my IT stocks holdings, as H1B and INR appreciation is bad for IT.

Sold TechM at 524.

If you hold IT, pls review your stocks.

@marketdimer

I require 1 help. In Shankara IPO last year, I have applied ASBA application from Onlinesbi for 9 different account (From 2 sbi bank account). After applying, amount has been lien by bank & bank showed my application is successful.
At the time of allotment, I found that my all 9 application has not been submitted by SBI to exchanges bcoz it was showing no record found. Also in that IPO, SBI did big blunder & many people faced same problem. I knew 1 person who even got compensated by SBI for this mistake. I came to know about this compensation matter lately & wrote mail to sbi asba team but despite reminder mail they are not responding to it.

What should I do to get compensation? Any idea….

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Aster DM IPO coming next week, a good company, probably will be pricey. Floated by good lead managers so chances of retail making money is high.

Apollo micro gmp shoots upto 3 figuresm, 110-115 now. Will take cautious approach.

As per Closing 5th Jan 2018
Nifty 10558.85 PE 26.99
Bank Nifty 25601 PE 29.64
Nifty Floor at 24.06 (9411)
Nifty Headroom upto 28.29 (11065)

Don’t get trapped in nmdc ofs. Operators might take price upto 159-161 till 2-2.25 and then dump shares only to buy at lower price from ofs. If you intend to bid, max should be around 155 and not more. Bidding at 160 doesn’t makes any sense as you can get stock at 152 any day in coming days after 5% discount and anyways operators will be at the stock in last few minutes of bidding. Recently in nlc and other ofs similar frend was seen by operators. Beware, bid only at or below 155. Do make sure that atleast 4 IPOs are coming in next 2-3 weeks so bid less. And to make things good, nmdc gives dividends in March, expect another 6-8 rs per share (5% discount on bidding price too).

Similarly, my all time fav stock sjvn is coming with buyback. If you have it, don’t surrender. 2 dividends, interim and final might come next month, around 4-5 rs. Plus government is taking 5% shares buyback so over all free float shares will be about 1-2% only for trading and holdings by govt will be increased to 94-95%, we, retail and dii, fii will have rest only 5%! Those who have it will be lucky to have a cash rich, dividend paying, profit making, high roe company and such throw away price with such low quantity in market tradable or held.

Apollo micro , GMP is > 100

Apply for Apollo or Newgen or Aster?

3 applications in apollo. Latest subs figure for retail already 28×. Should touch 40-45×. Allotment will be difficult. Ab to matlab hi nahi hota paise fasane ka, milta to anda hi hai kamau ipo mein.