ISRO espionage case: SC-appointed probe panel submits report on Nambi Narayanan's illegal arrest

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ISRO espionage case: SC-appointed probe panel submits report on Nambi Narayanan's illegal arrest

The 79-year-old former scientist, who was given a clean chit by the CBI in the case, maintains that the Kerala Police had ‘fabricated’ the case
The scientist was arrested when Congress was heading the government in Kerala. The panel, after investigation, submitted its report in a sealed cover to the apex court recently.
The CBI, in its probe, had held that the then top police officials in Kerala were responsible for Narayanan’s illegal arrest.
https://www.firstpost.com/india/isro-esp...ge-…
He was awarded Rs 50 lakh compensation by the Supreme Court for being framed by police officers in the space research centre case. Please list it for hearing on Tuesday," the SG requested. Kerala Assembly election voting is on Tuesday. source: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/justice-...-s
Nambi Narayanan: The fake spy scandal that blew up a rocket scientist’s career
Imagine your life being changed by a single dramatic moment. This is what happened to a top scientist in the Indian space programme, when one day, 25 years ago, police officers knocked at his door.
“The moment
One winter afternoon a quarter of a century ago three policemen arrived at a house in a narrow lane in the southern Indian city of Trivandrum, the capital of the state of Kerala.
The officers were polite and respectful, Nambi Narayanan remembers.
They told the space scientist that their boss, a deputy inspector general of police, wanted to talk to him.
“Am I under arrest?” Mr Narayanan asked.
“No sir,” the officer said.
It was 30 November 1994. The 53-year-old scientist led the Indian space agency’s cryogenic rocket engine project, and was responsible for acquiring the technology from Russia.
Mr Narayanan walked out to the waiting police vehicle. He asked whether he should sit in the front or the back – suspects were usually dumped in the back seat.
The policemen asked him to sit in the front, and the Jeep rolled out of the lane.
When they arrived at the police station, the boss wasn’t there, so Mr Narayanan was asked to wait on a bench. Policemen gaped at him as they passed by.
“They had that look as if they were looking at someone who had done some crime,” Mr Narayanan says.
He waited and waited. The boss didn’t turn up.
As night fell, he dozed off on the bench. When he woke up next morning, he was told he was under arrest.
A scrum of journalists had arrived, and within hours newspapers were describing him as a traitor – a man who had sold rocket technology to Pakistan, after falling into a honey trap set by two women from the Maldives.
His life was never the same again." source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-4...70
It’s a national shame. How can one country treat its eminent scientists as traitors. Why won’t people with big brains flee this country?

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Thankfully he got the justice. 🙏🙏🙏😔😔😔 But what about the lost 25 years???

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Thankfully he got the justice. 🙏🙏🙏😔😔😔 But what about the lost 25 years???

This is what happens when rule of law is replaced by rule of power & this is why everyone should be very afraid of “encounter specialists”, “guilty until proven innocent preventive detention laws” & “supreme leaders”.

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guest_999 wrote:

This is what happens when rule of law is replaced by rule of power & this is why everyone should be very afraid of “encounter specialists”, “guilty until proven innocent preventive detention laws” & “supreme leaders”.

Encounter Specialists do the dirty job so that rest of the population sleep well at night. In Mumbai, a lot of cops are facing legal actions. But see, Dawood Ibrahim is in self exile. Mumbai Underworld is gone. I don’t think, without encounter Specialists it would have happened. People should be afraid of committing crimes. And police ll be victimized but they have signed up for that.

You are right about rest of the things.

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Encounter Specialists do the dirty job so that rest of the population sleep well at night. In Mumbai, a lot of cops are facing legal actions. But see, Dawood Ibrahim is in self exile. Mumbai Underworld is gone. I don’t think, without encounter Specialists it would have happened. People should be afraid of committing crimes. And police ll be victimized but they have signed up for that.

You are right about rest of the things.

You are forgetting the fact that Dawood Ibrahim himself was propped up by Mumbai police first against Haji Mastan, kind of like how Osama was propped up by CIA initially to fight soviets. Seeing this way, Mumbai police did not do any “dirty job” but rather they were forced to act to prevent airing their “dirty laundry” in public. Again this happened precisely because some “encounter specialists” in Mumbai Police thought at that time it was a good idea to use Dawood to get rid of Haji Mastan gang.

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guest_999 wrote:

You are forgetting the fact that Dawood Ibrahim himself was propped up by Mumbai police first against Haji Mastan, kind of like how Osama was propped up by CIA initially to fight soviets. Seeing this way, Mumbai police did not do any “dirty job” but rather they were forced to act to prevent airing their “dirty laundry” in public. Again this happened precisely because some “encounter specialists” in Mumbai Police thought at that time it was a good idea to use Dawood to get rid of Haji Mastan gang.

Thanks to encounter specialists, Mumbai is finally over that underworld scene. The end result is good. The same thing happened in Odisha. Tito and Haider, Jena and Mangaraj family disputes are extremely popular. Someone propped someone to pop someone, n some popped the one, who was popped. Now Odisha is finally at peace after D brother’s fall in empire. They buy police by paying bribes. What can a force of 100 do against 1000s of goons.
This is totally different than Osama event. It was cold war. US and Soviet union experimented on Afghanistan. US prospered, Russia did so so, Afghanistan got ruined.
The more apt example ll be during Prohibition era, Mickey Cohen rose to the power. The way LAPD n Chicago PD hunted them down is more relevant with the Mumbai n Odisha scene.
Thankfully the bet worked.

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Thanks to encounter specialists, Mumbai is finally over that underworld scene. The end result is good. The same thing happened in Odisha. Tito and Haider, Jena and Mangaraj family disputes are extremely popular. Someone propped someone to pop someone, n some popped the one, who was popped. Now Odisha is finally at peace after D brother’s fall in empire. They buy police by paying bribes. What can a force of 100 do against 1000s of goons.
This is totally different than Osama event. It was cold war. US and Soviet union experimented on Afghanistan. US prospered, Russia did so so, Afghanistan got ruined.
The more apt example ll be during Prohibition era, Mickey Cohen rose to the power. The way LAPD n Chicago PD hunted them down is more relevant with the Mumbai n Odisha scene.
Thankfully the bet worked.

And no thanks to encounter specialists who mostly created the Mumbai underworld in the first place. It is like saying a benevolent dictator is better than a corrupt democracy & in short term it might even be true but in long term it is always the dictator who turns out to be the villain. Pol Pot began as a popular revolutionary but we all know what he ended up as, one of the biggest mass murderer of the 20th century. Rule of law might not be as efficient but just like democracy, in the long run it is the only winner.

P.S. Just to jog memory, Neither Capone nor Cohen were ever “encountered” or even convicted of gang crimes but rather jailed on tax evasion charges.

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And no thanks to encounter specialists who mostly created the Mumbai underworld in the first place. It is like saying a benevolent dictator is better than a corrupt democracy & in short term it might even be true but in long term it is always the dictator who turns out to be the villain. Pol Pot began as a popular revolutionary but we all know what he ended up as, one of the biggest mass murderer of the 20th century. Rule of law might not be as efficient but just like democracy, in the long run it is the only winner.

P.S. Just to jog memory, Neither Capone nor Cohen were ever “encountered” or even convicted of gang crimes but rather jailed on tax evasion charges.

Encounter Specialists brought down the Mumbai Underworld. If they did nothing, today life would be drastically different.

Capone or Cohen were mere faces. Their associates were brutally encountered/incarcerated by the police to ensure nobody fills the power vaccum. Thanks to sharp wit of police they brought them down.
For long term peace, short term pains are necessary. It’s like applying pain balms to treat bone fractures vs going under the surgery to do a permanent fix. Being an anarchist and cracking down on criminals by unconventional methods are both different things.
And I am thankful to those brave police officers and their leaders, who gave us a safe future. They did the best they could do. Even a surgery could end up causing sepsis. They still followed the law of society and their environment. They saw, if they just merely waited or put people behind the bars, people ld get released by bails. And they in turn attack the police’s family. Traditional Rule of law couldn’t protect them and they took right risks. They did everything by book. And the things they are facing now is kind of political in nature. But Mumbai n Odisha is safe.
If someone again rises in underworld, police ll strike again.

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Encounter Specialists brought down the Mumbai Underworld. If they did nothing, today life would be drastically different.

Capone or Cohen were mere faces. Their associates were brutally encountered/incarcerated by the police to ensure nobody fills the power vaccum. Thanks to sharp wit of police they brought them down.
For long term peace, short term pains are necessary. It’s like applying pain balms to treat bone fractures vs going under the surgery to do a permanent fix. Being an anarchist and cracking down on criminals by unconventional methods are both different things.
And I am thankful to those brave police officers and their leaders, who gave us a safe future. They did the best they could do. Even a surgery could end up causing sepsis. They still followed the law of society and their environment. They saw, if they just merely waited or put people behind the bars, people ld get released by bails. And they in turn attack the police’s family. Traditional Rule of law couldn’t protect them and they took right risks. They did everything by book. And the things they are facing now is kind of political in nature. But Mumbai n Odisha is safe.
If someone again rises in underworld, police ll strike again.

Sugar coating poison does not turn it into life saver.

For long term peace, short term pains are necessary. It’s like applying pain balms to treat bone fractures vs going under the surgery to do a permanent fix. Being an anarchist and cracking down on criminals by unconventional methods are both different things.

So for short term, let’s give all SPs(superintendent of police) unlimited power to shoot at sight any gathering of more than 10 people which will definitely scare all those flouting corona restrictions(I am not flouting any corona restriction & yet I admit I will be scared) & will save both lives & money millions of times more than killing all the criminals in Mumbai at the cost of killing only a few thousand.
@MrKool_JJ @malikcool @Wontdisplaymyname @AyushiiiVijay @androgame @wander-lust @badkarma @Alexios @Nationalist @_One_Miller_ @drupal @saucap @goss8877

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guest_999 wrote:

Sugar coating poison does not turn it into life saver.

For long term peace, short term pains are necessary. It’s like applying pain balms to treat bone fractures vs going under the surgery to do a permanent fix. Being an anarchist and cracking down on criminals by unconventional methods are both different things.

So for short term, let’s give all SPs(superintendent of police) unlimited power to shoot at sight any gathering of more than 10 people which will definitely scare all those flouting corona restrictions(I am not flouting any corona restriction & yet I admit I will be scared) & will save both lives & money millions of times more than killing all the criminals in Mumbai at the cost of killing only a few thousand.
@MrKool_JJ @malikcool @Wontdisplaymyname @AyushiiiVijay @androgame @wander-lust @badkarma @Alexios @Nationalist @_One_Miller_ @drupal @saucap @goss8877

Sugar coating poison!!! Brother it works in that way. Quinine is coated in sugar. Right! All bitter things are not poison.
I will give you another update. The Hyder I was talking about has escaped again.
https://odishatv.in/odisha-news/dreaded-gangste...
They don’t stop until someone puts a bullet in them. That’s the way it is. Police always gives a chance, often time they start firing n they get killed.
Kohli was to be hanged, some human rights activist saved him minutes before the sentence has been carried out. The law route is extremely impugned. But I believe in courts. But people get out because of lack of evidence etc.
Police’s questionable actions will raise questions etc. But they did/do the best they could/can do.
Giving orders to kill innocent citizens is not good. But if they give order to shoot at sight to any naxals then it ll bring positive results. People ll react buddy. They always do n they should do. They ll be like genocide etc. But the problem is not being solved. Can’t wait a lifetime to get those problems solved. Govt has launched new rehabilitation programs to no avail. Every year, security personnels get KIA.

Police n soldiers always bite the poison meant for public. Only time they get respect, when they return in a stretcher. Criticism is good. Whatever they are doing is also good. 🙂

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Sugar coating poison!!! Brother it works in that way. Quinine is coated in sugar. Right! All bitter things are not poison.
I will give you another update. The Hyder I was talking about has escaped again.
https://odishatv.in/odisha-news/dreaded-gangste...
They don’t stop until someone puts a bullet in them. That’s the way it is. Police always gives a chance, often time they start firing n they get killed.
Kohli was to be hanged, some human rights activist saved him minutes before the sentence has been carried out. The law route is extremely impugned. But I believe in courts. But people get out because of lack of evidence etc.
Police’s questionable actions will raise questions etc. But they did/do the best they could/can do.
Giving orders to kill innocent citizens is not good. But if they give order to shoot at sight to any naxals then it ll bring positive results. People ll react buddy. They always do n they should do. They ll be like genocide etc. But the problem is not being solved. Can’t wait a lifetime to get those problems solved. Govt has launched new rehabilitation programs to no avail. Every year, security personnels get KIA.

Police n soldiers always bite the poison meant for public. Only time they get respect, when they return in a stretcher. Criticism is good. Whatever they are doing is also good. 🙂

You didn’t get my point, any policeman or soldier who thinks he is above the law or should be above the law will turn into a villain sooner or later(the famous quote of Lord Acton “power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely” ). The example of Mumbai “encounter brigade” is before you, all are either dead or suspended or in jail/courts facing various serious charges. You think so highly of all this most likely because you believe you are on the “right side” which is never going to lose but let me tell you something, even the mightiest empire crumbles before time not to mention “parties” & there never was & never will be a side which is going to be always “right”.

Anyway it is clear that you just don’t seem to believe in rule of law so no point in further discussing it, I just hope this laxity in rule of law is temporary in nature but if not then I guess I will have to make more efforts to get a good job abroad.

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@MJ911 Please move this political junk to appropriate place

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CIA propoganda amplified by communists which ensured india didn’t progress in crucial tech and a person was witchhunted.

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drupal wrote:

@MJ911 Please move this political junk to appropriate place

Please don’t call someone’s post as junk.

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guest_999 wrote:

You didn’t get my point, any policeman or soldier who thinks he is above the law or should be above the law will turn into a villain sooner or later(the famous quote of Lord Acton “power corrupts & absolute power corrupts absolutely” ). The example of Mumbai “encounter brigade” is before you, all are either dead or suspended or in jail/courts facing various serious charges. You think so highly of all this most likely because you believe you are on the “right side” which is never going to lose but let me tell you something, even the mightiest empire crumbles before time not to mention “parties” & there never was & never will be a side which is going to be always “right”.

Anyway it is clear that you just don’t seem to believe in rule of law so no point in further discussing it, I just hope this laxity in rule of law is temporary in nature but if not then I guess I will have to make more efforts to get a good job abroad.

After seeing the good outcome in Mumbai n Odisha, I firmly believe that police did the right thing.
Anyway it is clear that you just don’t seem to believe in rule of law so no point in further discussing it
Brother if I don’t believe or agree with your opinions then you don’t have to make assumptions on me. This comment does not sound right. Just say I don’t agree with you. That works.

Please work harder. 🙏

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Please move this to political section bhau @MJ911 🙂🙂🙂

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bikidas2060 wrote:

After seeing the good outcome in Mumbai n Odisha, I firmly believe that police did the right thing.
Anyway it is clear that you just don’t seem to believe in rule of law so no point in further discussing it
Brother if I don’t believe or agree with your opinions then you don’t have to make assumptions on me. This comment does not sound right. Just say I don’t agree with you. That works.

Please work harder. 🙏

Bhai for things like rule of law there is no “90% believer”(aka alright only for criminals & terrorists), it is either yes or no. Tell me which extrajudicial killing case if proved in court not resulted in conviction of police/army officers, court either convicts on charges of judicial killing or not because of lack of evidence but there is no in-between. If you say extrajudicial killing of criminals & terrorists is alright then you don’t believe in rule of law. as simple as that so why hesitate. Right or wrong, unless you believe completely in something then it is just not worth it.

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Encounter Specialists do the dirty job so that rest of the population sleep well at night. In Mumbai, a lot of cops are facing legal actions. But see, Dawood Ibrahim is in self exile. Mumbai Underworld is gone. I don’t think, without encounter Specialists it would have happened. People should be afraid of committing crimes. And police ll be victimized but they have signed up for that.

You are right about rest of the things.

That’s fake news, Osama was never propped up by CIA directly or indirectly. Much like Dawood was never propped up by the Mumbai Police. A lot of what you see in movies or TV is frankly BS rolleyes

If anything he was funded by the Saudis → https://www.factcheck.org/2013/02/rand-pauls-bi...

Wrong quote, meant to quote @guest_999

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hubham wrote:

That’s fake news, Osama was never propped up by CIA directly or indirectly. Much like Dawood was never propped up by the Mumbai Police. A lot of what you see in movies or TV is frankly BS rolleyes

If anything he was funded by the Saudis → https://www.factcheck.org/2013/02/rand-pauls-bi...

Wrong quote, meant to quote @guest_999

Buddy it is well known that CIA propped up Mujahideen in Afghanistan against soviet invasion, where do you think they got the Stinger missiles from.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger#So...

The reason why Saudi Arabia is the biggest US ally among all Muslim nations is because they acted as proxy for many US covert operations, why do you think Obama had to veto the law which could allow victims of 9/11 to ask compensation from Saudi Arab govt though his veto was eventually overruled by congress in a rare move.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Against_S...

As for Dawood, anyone living for a long time in Mumbai knows this fact about rivalry between him & Haji Mastan & the side the Mumbai police took in this gang war.

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