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I’m looking to buy a 12 or 14 place dishwasher. LG is the brand I trust but that costs like 55-60k which is insane. So what other brands should I look into?

If any of you are currently using a dishwasher please share your experience if its worth it for an Indian non-vegetarian home [meat dishes once every couple of weeks]. What’s the cost for detergents and stuff per month?

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Benevolent Benevolent
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Bosch is popular. Am using Voltas Beko purchased from Tatacliq, good performance. Chk my comments in other threads.
Food type does not matter, u need to scratch burnt bottoms manually, no other way, or use only ceramic cookware+Oven
For eg tea fry-pan needs manual pre-wash
costs around 15-20Rs per wash(full load)

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What was the cost and how many months or years has it been?

Burnt utensils are a big headache. I thought they would have solved this by now.

Please link your comments bro. That would be helpful.

What do you think is a good price?

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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mere yaha jo dishwasher aatee hai, wo meri help nai karti.. pensive

feer kaisi kisi ko help karu, that too with Dishwasher

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No dishwasher I have seen is able to wash the following utensils properly
1. A stainless steel saucepan in which you have made tea. Some tea & milk is stuck/burnt on the top while boiling the tea for some time. This tea never gets cleaned properly.
2. Stainless steel pressure cooker utensils, which you use one top of the other inside the pressure cooker. If you boil rice in the bottom utensil, some boiled rice get stuck on the upper utensil. This stuck rice hardens by the time you finish eating food and add the utensil to the dishwasher. This stuck rice never gets cleaned properly even with the highest temperature setting.
3. Severely burnt milk or food.

Other than these all other types gets cleaned and dried.

Cost of consumables:
Dishwasher detergent = 200/kg (essentially powdered + perfumed caustic soda). Requires 1kg per month.
Rinse aid = 300/lit (essentially color + nonionic surfactant) Requires 200ml per month.
Dishwasher salt = 80/kg (essentially pure sodium chloride). Requires 1kg per month.
You can use dishwasher tablet that has all three in one, but it will cost you more per wash.
Electricity = 1 unit per wash. Remember, this can lead to higher electricity bill than expected. Because of the extra 30 units per month you may fall into a higher consumption unit bracket thus paying higher price per unit.
The washing cost per month is less than a help’s salary (not taking into account the price of the machine). But once you use a dishwasher, you will realize its worth it.

Generous Generous
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Good to know about the recurring costs and disadvantages of dishwashers.

Which model did you buy and how long have you been using it? Companies are making their appliances break sooner nowadays and I’m worried about it.

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Generous Generous
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Kaam wali bai , 600 rs p/m … 7200 per year .

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Kaunse shehar mein rehte ho? 600 pm maid, good deal.

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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ifb neptune vx,its good

Generous Generous
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Since how long have you been using it?

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Pro Entertainer Pro Entertainer
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Lockdown se pehle Manglu ki kaaki aati thi… gujar gayi… ab Manglu ki biwi aati hai… Lockdown ke samay ghar ke log apni apni dhapli apna apna raag karte the bartenon ke saath… Dishwasher kissi ko pasand nahi… sad toungueout

Generous Generous
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IFB or Bosch (one of the brands) ran out of stock and people were booking them from other states as well claiming it was fully “imported & better” during the lock down.. prices went up by 40%.. with multiple houses booking them in apartments.. sales reps were booking multiple orders in large apartments daily.. all this during the lockdown..

Coming to the machine, you get steaming hot washed utensils in approx an hour.. but you need to scrape clean the vessels (clean a bit, remove any sticky stuff etc) before you put them inside for satisfying results..

Also, Check on the operating expenses as well.. soap cubes/cakes costs like ₹750 for 30 pieces for IFB.. plus the other liquid which costs ₹240 at IFB store..

Generous Generous
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Well then I might postpone buying dishwasher for now.

Buying from lesser known brands at the same price at which Bosch was selling its dishwasher doesn’t seem worth it confused

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Benevolent Benevolent
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How is Midea dishwasher? no idea

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Just wait for next all in one washing machine which washes clothes + dishes all in one smile

Generous Generous
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Next will be a real life robot which does all these things instead of ourselves or maid 😂

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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I’m using a Bosch for last 3 years. We use it once every night at full load. Washing is perfect if you know how to load it properly. Overloading the dishwasher or loading it improperly will give you improperly washed dishes. You have to remember that to clean dishes or utensils the water jet/spray need to reach the nooks and corners. The fortune detergent is Rs 200 a kg, goes for me more than a month. You will need salt and rinse aid too. Else you can use all in one tablets but those are expensive.
Service is a big issue with dishwashers, Bosch was the largest selling brand few years back but still in a tier one metro city I faced service problems. Hopefully this will now improve as sell of dishwashers increased after the lockdown.
Whatever you buy ensure it has good service presence.

Generous Generous
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Even burnt milk and burnt curry stains are cleaned in Bosch when you load properly?

Yeah Bosch has the worst service.

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I am also using Bosch for the last 3 years, all working well,
Using IFB Detergent/Salt and Rinse, tablets are too costly.

With Intensive Kadai Mode dishwasher washing utensils at 45-60 degrees, so consumption of electricity is high in that case, if you are living in society and using a prepaid meter with a fixed load, then you may need to increase your electricity load.

In 2019, when Vim was doing research for launching their dishwasher products, they provided 60 Tablets free and 2500 Rupees for providing feedback. (Survey was thru the Crownit). Currently Vim also have dishwasher products (Detergents/Salt/Rinse), but it is too costly compared to other available options.

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Agreed. Tablets are way too costly for Indian market pensive

But want to try once anyway to see how they clean. Not fully satisfied with Finish detergent right now.

How was the performance of the Vim tablets they gave?

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Own a godrej eon . Used IFB tablets ,gave good washing . Now currently using IFB detergent/salt/rinse . But I like the tablet . Using machine in ECO mode . 3hrs 32 minutes it takes , company claims it use less electricity and water in this mode .

Generous Generous
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Oh nice. Eco mode uses less energy because it doesn’t heat the water as much as intensive mode and few other modes.

Gotta try IFB too, but tablets really need to be manufactured in India and be less priced like Fortune tablets.

Did you try Crystale?

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Some tips:
Never keep one utensil below the other on a single rack for e.g. one small bowl below another bigger bowl.
Never keep glasses or deep utensils at the four corners of the racks. The four corners are the weakest point where spray doesn’t reach deep.
I did not find any difference in the washing capabilities of Finish or Fortune or Clean N Fresh tablets.
I have moved to detergent. Added advantage is I can control the amount as per the load.

Generous Generous
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Thanks for the tips bro.

I have tried only Finish among detergents and unfortunately Finish doesn’t work for me without scrubbing each and every stain before putting in the dishwasher.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Hello guys, among all brands which is best for dishwasher salt as it is mandatory with both detergent,rinse or with tablets. Pls give ur suggestions.

Generous Generous
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You can get any brand for salt.

I’m using Crystale at the highest setting on the dishwasher but there’s still white spots.

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Fortune tablets are good and reasonable priced. The manufacturer of Bosch detergents and tablets is the same as of Fortune.
If water is not too hard, no need to put anything with tablet otherwise you can use salt additionally.
If you soak the utensils in water just after cooking/eating, a good dishwasher will clean it very well. And always remove any leftover food.

Dishwasher is one amazing appliance if it comes in your budget. Using Bosch since August 2020 and highly satisfied with performance.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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True .But constant white spots on utensils means not fault with dishwasher salt it’s just that we need to change the salt consumption so that on outcome there won’t be any white spots.

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Generous Generous
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I have switched to powder from tablets as we can use half to 1.5spoon based on dishwasher load. Switched from fortune to presto by amazon which is almsot same price n better as fortune becomes chunky after sometime. Also better packing.
Changed salt setting to minimal as we have soft water in Delhi most of time though not turning off as still sometime we have to use underground water.
For that ordered fortune salt(cheapest @ 100 per kg) from big basket which is cheapest and not bad.
Stopped using rinse aid completely as less chemicals n better.
For oily kadhai type stuff i recommend you to use 70deg+ water temperature program. They do wonders.
Using Bosch dishwasher brought from 2018.

Generous Generous
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I don’t think powders will work for my water.

I’m using Eco mode mainly which has highest of 45C inbuilt, but the machine is connected to solar water which has high temps.

Will take your advise and do intensive or normal mode for 65C in the machine for heavily stained utensils.

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What is operating costs per month as per your experience.

Budding Star Budding Star
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Including approx bill.

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