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I’m looking to buy a 12 or 14 place dishwasher. LG is the brand I trust but that costs like 55-60k which is insane. So what other brands should I look into?

If any of you are currently using a dishwasher please share your experience if its worth it for an Indian non-vegetarian home [meat dishes once every couple of weeks]. What’s the cost for detergents and stuff per month?

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G-Gowda wrote:

I’m looking to buy a 12 or 14 place dishwasher. LG is the brand I trust but that costs like 55-60k which is insane. So what other brands should I look into?

If any of you are currently using a dishwasher please share your experience if its worth it for an Indian non-vegetarian home [meat dishes once every couple of weeks]. What’s the cost for detergents and stuff per month?

Using IFB, no issue so far

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G-Gowda wrote:

I’m looking to buy a 12 or 14 place dishwasher. LG is the brand I trust but that costs like 55-60k which is insane. So what other brands should I look into?

If any of you are currently using a dishwasher please share your experience if its worth it for an Indian non-vegetarian home [meat dishes once every couple of weeks]. What’s the cost for detergents and stuff per month?

noob here. no idea☹

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Bosch is popular. Am using Voltas Beko purchased from Tatacliq, good performance. Chk my comments in other threads.
Food type does not matter, u need to scratch burnt bottoms manually, no other way, or use only ceramic cookware+Oven
For eg tea fry-pan needs manual pre-wash
costs around 15-20Rs per wash(full load)

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caks2006407 wrote:

Bosch is popular. Am using Voltas Beko purchased from Tatacliq, good performance. Chk my comments in other threads.
Food type does not matter, u need to scratch burnt bottoms manually, no other way, or use only ceramic cookware+Oven
For eg tea fry-pan needs manual pre-wash
costs around 15-20Rs per wash(full load)

What was the cost and how many months or years has it been?

Burnt utensils are a big headache. I thought they would have solved this by now.

Please link your comments bro. That would be helpful.

What do you think is a good price?

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G-Gowda wrote:

What was the cost and how many months or years has it been?

Burnt utensils are a big headache. I thought they would have solved this by now.

Please link your comments bro. That would be helpful.

What do you think is a good price?

40K, using from Aug’19 heavily used during lockdown
No amount of hot water can clean burnt stains, but manual scratching is not an issue just scratch and rinse which need not be perfect
But cleaning by dishwasher is top notch once used u will never like maid hand washed utensils. Hot water used is around 60 degrees, normal water option also there
search dishwasher in DD discussions
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/suggestion...

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user1234235 wrote:

some Videocon model they took in past 6-8 months and for now are happy with it.

Not Videocon then.. if @caks above said Beko is Voltas, then my cousins too have same.
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Sorry😔 i am bad with names recall.
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Two cousins, one family 100% non vegetarian (with “children” like German Shephard, Labradors) and another cousin’s children (and husband?) do eat everything.
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Both have this “Beko” thing since at-least last quarter of 2020.

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mere yaha jo dishwasher aatee hai, wo meri help nai karti.. pensive

feer kaisi kisi ko help karu, that too with Dishwasher

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user1234235 wrote:

i do not know what ‘12 or 14 place" refers to w.r.t. dishwashers.
but dishwashers (still) being a bit of novelty, the fancier (read newer) models WILL have 45+ pricing from A listers.
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LG: we first bought (the then exorbitantly priced CKDs from Korea) LG fridge, clothes washing machine and split Aircons about two decades back in a metro/ Tier 1 city and only recently when those (now) vacant properties got converted into a dhatmshala for relatives., d8d we see that the washing machine had become a gone case.
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Somehow Paa/Maa (and me too) we are finicky. After Sony, TV = only Samsung, grinder/chopper = now Philips, else Maa preferred Braun.
Fridge, machine LG.
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Anyway,
Query1] cousin’s (husbands, nephew, nieces ooenly non vegetarian, but Jiji’s ‘claim’ to be vegetarians) place some Videocon model they took in past 6-8 months and for now are hsppy with it.
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Query 2]
Viability: it really is subjective.
In Maa’s kingdom… we (including guest relatives) arr anyway required to water wash utensils and leave NO DEBRIS OR STUCK FOOD even if it is hand washed by domestic staff, help.
So, to us it is NOT an added chore to “prep” the utensils .. IF WE HAD A DISHWASHER.
But tgen, the prep time, the arrangement time in the unit and then taking it out..
… i might as well handwash the utensils (be it of one perdon or family).
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Veg/ non veg: not sure. but Maa’s kitchen (we are vegetarians) anyway has less of non-stick aluminium stuff and more of normal (cast) iron cookware.
Top with that.. typical sweets or even vegetables or flat breads (childa/ dosa et al) and those utensils are only manageable by hand.
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Maa’s logic for not yet opting or agreeing for dishwasher is mainly: not adequate space in the wash areas and added chore of msintaining one more appliance.
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Operational costs:
Bro, you are not a newbie in the field, approximations from me won’t do much.
Do check prices of your fav. brand and usage patterns of users.
I know of people eho ONLY use scAmway products and then who knows, tomorrow Mr. N.P. Subedi’s company might launch dishwasher salts/ powders and Mr. Ramkrishn Yadav might (as usual) be the bRand ambassador and it would no longer matter if it is costly, cheap, effective, harmful… so long as it is sanskari (cultured, civilised) dishwasher salt/ soap

Thanks for your input bro.

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caks2006407 wrote:

40K, using from Aug’19 heavily used during lockdown
No amount of hot water can clean burnt stains, but manual scratching is not an issue just scratch and rinse which need not be perfect
But cleaning by dishwasher is top notch once used u will never like maid hand washed utensils. Hot water used is around 60 degrees, normal water option also there
search dishwasher in DD discussions
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/suggestion...

Prices seems to have jumped a lot now flushed

There’s also not many models available. Almost none from Bosch.

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No dishwasher I have seen is able to wash the following utensils properly
1. A stainless steel saucepan in which you have made tea. Some tea & milk is stuck/burnt on the top while boiling the tea for some time. This tea never gets cleaned properly.
2. Stainless steel pressure cooker utensils, which you use one top of the other inside the pressure cooker. If you boil rice in the bottom utensil, some boiled rice get stuck on the upper utensil. This stuck rice hardens by the time you finish eating food and add the utensil to the dishwasher. This stuck rice never gets cleaned properly even with the highest temperature setting.
3. Severely burnt milk or food.

Other than these all other types gets cleaned and dried.

Cost of consumables:
Dishwasher detergent = 200/kg (essentially powdered + perfumed caustic soda). Requires 1kg per month.
Rinse aid = 300/lit (essentially color + nonionic surfactant) Requires 200ml per month.
Dishwasher salt = 80/kg (essentially pure sodium chloride). Requires 1kg per month.
You can use dishwasher tablet that has all three in one, but it will cost you more per wash.
Electricity = 1 unit per wash. Remember, this can lead to higher electricity bill than expected. Because of the extra 30 units per month you may fall into a higher consumption unit bracket thus paying higher price per unit.
The washing cost per month is less than a help’s salary (not taking into account the price of the machine). But once you use a dishwasher, you will realize its worth it.

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No dishwasher I have seen is able to wash the following utensils properly
1. A stainless steel saucepan in which you have made tea. Some tea & milk is stuck/burnt on the top while boiling the tea for some time. This tea never gets cleaned properly.
2. Stainless steel pressure cooker utensils, which you use one top of the other inside the pressure cooker. If you boil rice in the bottom utensil, some boiled rice get stuck on the upper utensil. This stuck rice hardens by the time you finish eating food and add the utensil to the dishwasher. This stuck rice never gets cleaned properly even with the highest temperature setting.
3. Severely burnt milk or food.

Other than these all other types gets cleaned and dried.

Cost of consumables:
Dishwasher detergent = 200/kg (essentially powdered + perfumed caustic soda). Requires 1kg per month.
Rinse aid = 300/lit (essentially color + nonionic surfactant) Requires 200ml per month.
Dishwasher salt = 80/kg (essentially pure sodium chloride). Requires 1kg per month.
You can use dishwasher tablet that has all three in one, but it will cost you more per wash.
Electricity = 1 unit per wash. Remember, this can lead to higher electricity bill than expected. Because of the extra 30 units per month you may fall into a higher consumption unit bracket thus paying higher price per unit.
The washing cost per month is less than a help’s salary (not talking into account the price of the machine). But once you use a dishwasher, you will realize its worth it.

Good to know about the recurring costs and disadvantages of dishwashers.

Which model did you buy and how long have you been using it? Companies are making their appliances break sooner nowadays and I’m worried about it.

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G-Gowda wrote:

Good to know about the recurring costs and disadvantages of dishwashers.

Which model did you buy and how long have you been using it? Companies are making their appliances break sooner nowadays and I’m worried about it.

Voltas Beko, 1 year.

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saymyname78 wrote:

Kaam wali bai , 600 rs p/m … 7200 per year .

Kaunse shehar mein rehte ho? 600 pm maid, good deal.

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saymyname78 wrote:

Kaam wali bai , 600 rs p/m … 7200 per year .

2500rs+ here. Only in older areas of the city is the rates lower like 1.5k per month.

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Lockdown se pehle Manglu ki kaaki aati thi… gujar gayi… ab Manglu ki biwi aati hai… Lockdown ke samay ghar ke log apni apni dhapli apna apna raag karte the bartenon ke saath… Dishwasher kissi ko pasand nahi… sad toungueout

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G-Gowda wrote:

Since how long have you been using it?

since Aug,also dont buy ifb detergent (its pathetic) though ifb/others tablet woks fine with this dishwasher

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IFB or Bosch (one of the brands) ran out of stock and people were booking them from other states as well claiming it was fully “imported & better” during the lock down.. prices went up by 40%.. with multiple houses booking them in apartments.. sales reps were booking multiple orders in large apartments daily.. all this during the lockdown..

Coming to the machine, you get steaming hot washed utensils in approx an hour.. but you need to scrape clean the vessels (clean a bit, remove any sticky stuff etc) before you put them inside for satisfying results..

Also, Check on the operating expenses as well.. soap cubes/cakes costs like ₹750 for 30 pieces for IFB.. plus the other liquid which costs ₹240 at IFB store..

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IFB or Bosch (one of the brands) ran out of stock and people were booking them from other states as well claiming it was fully “imported & better” during the lock down.. prices went up by 40%.. with multiple houses booking them in apartments.. sales reps were booking multiple orders in large apartments daily.. all this during the lockdown..

Coming to the machine, you get steaming hot washed utensils in approx an hour.. but you need to scrape clean the vessels (clean a bit, remove any sticky stuff etc) before you put them inside for satisfying results..

Also, Check on the operating expenses as well.. soap cubes/cakes costs like ₹750 for 30 pieces for IFB.. plus the other liquid which costs ₹240 at IFB store..

Well then I might postpone buying dishwasher for now.

Buying from lesser known brands at the same price at which Bosch was selling its dishwasher doesn’t seem worth it confused

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saymyname78 wrote:

Kaam wali bai , 600 rs p/m … 7200 per year .

issue comes with it not cleaning stuff consistently at times.
Plus unavailable for use during Holi Eid, Chirstmas, Bhai Dooj, in-laws care, his/her pregnancy, child unwell and so on.

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IFB or Bosch (one of the brands) ran out of stock and people were booking them from other states as well claiming it was fully “imported & better” during the lock down.. prices went up by 40%.. with multiple houses booking them in apartments.. sales reps were booking multiple orders in large apartments daily.. all this during the lockdown..

Coming to the machine, you get steaming hot washed utensils in approx an hour.. but you need to scrape clean the vessels (clean a bit, remove any sticky stuff etc) before you put them inside for satisfying results..

Also, Check on the operating expenses as well.. soap cubes/cakes costs like ₹750 for 30 pieces for IFB.. plus the other liquid which costs ₹240 at IFB store..

How is Midea dishwasher? It seems to have good reviews and is linked to Carrier.

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G-Gowda wrote:

How is Midea dishwasher? It seems to have good reviews and is linked to Carrier.

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I have experienced Midea Torrino. Its a good dishwasher and service is handled by Carrier which is professional. It also has the same cleaning issues I mentioned before.

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