Need help with Laptop Upgrade

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govinda.h

Due to short budget, I have 5year old laptop and want to upgrade it. It’s running with windows 7 very little slowness… but want to upgrade RAM/SSD to make it little faster to handle windows 10.

It will be helpful if links are shared so I can purchase directly and upgrade laptop on my own.

thanks 

Product Name 15-af008ax
Product Number N4F83PA
Microprocessor 2.2 GHz AMD Quad-Core A8-7410 APU with Radeon R5 Graphics
Microprocessor Cache 2 MB cache
Memory 4 GB DDR3L-1600 SDRAM (1 × 4 GB)
Video Graphics Intel HD Graphics
Display 39.6 cm (15.6")
Hard Drive 1 TB 5400 rpm SATA
Multimedia Drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Network Card Integrated 10/100 BASE-T Ethernet LAN
Wireless Connectivity 802.11b/g/n (1×1) and Bluetooth 4.0 combo (Miracast compatible)
Sound DTS Studio Sound with 2 speakers
Keyboard Full-size island-style keyboard with integrated numeric keypad
Pointing Device Touchpad with multi-touch gesture support
External Ports 1 multi-format SD media card reader1 HDMI1 headphone/microphone combo2 USB 3.01 USB 2.01 RJ-45
Dimensions 38.43 × 25.46 × 2.43 cm
Weight 2.19 kg
Power 4-cell, 41 Wh Li-ion polymer
Camera HP TrueVision HD Webcam (front-facing) with integrated digital microphone

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Yes you can add ssd in place of dvd drive using a caddy and add another 4gb ram.

post which you should reinstall the windows and all the softwares in ssd drive.

you’ll experience significant improvement in performance and os and apps load time

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Add an additional 4GB RAM and move the OS to an SSD. Minimum requirements for a frustration-free experience in Windows 10.

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Tjs15 wrote:

Yes you can add ssd in place of dvd drive using a caddy and add another 4gb ram.

post which you should reinstall the windows and all the softwares in ssd drive.

you’ll experience significant improvement in performance and os and apps load time

Thanks for quick reply…Can you recommend me what to check or some sample links for SSD/RAM. Or points to check to avoid compatibility issues.

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govinda.h wrote:

Thanks for quick reply…Can you recommend me what to check or some sample links for SSD/RAM. Or points to check to avoid compatibility issues.

check crucial website

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Check PCIE version. It should have minimum 3.0 version otherwise (PCIe 2.0) don’t buy ssd.

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SSD will help you the most generally. But before upgrading anything open task manager,open performance tab and track what device is at 100% when your system slows down. It will help you figure out what needs to be upgraded first.
If your cpu is at 100% and hard disk is not then SSD upgrade will not be useful as your cpu is the bottleneck.

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govinda.h wrote:

Thanks for quick reply…Can you recommend me what to check or some sample links for SSD/RAM. Or points to check to avoid compatibility issues.

you can buy any sata ssd with storage capacity as you need. If u need for basic tasks even 120-240 gb should be sufficient as u can have both ssd and hdd running in your computer.

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SSD will help you the most generally. But before upgrading anything open task manager,open performance tab and track what device is at 100% when your system slows down. It will help you figure out what needs to be upgraded first.
If your cpu is at 100% and hard disk is not then SSD upgrade will not be useful as your cpu is the bottleneck.

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735154/original/20220117_192703.jpg?1642427886

After opening few applications, I hardly crosses 70% so I think CPU is in good shape… please find the image of task manager.. Let me know if any other thing.

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bhopali91355 wrote:

Check PCIE version. It should have minimum 3.0 version otherwise (PCIe 2.0) don’t buy ssd.

I checked on website for AMD A8 it is PCIe 3

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govinda.h wrote:

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735154/original/20220117_192703.jpg?1642427886

After opening few applications, I hardly crosses 70% so I think CPU is in good shape… please find the image of task manager.. Let me know if any other thing.

in that case just go ahead and get a sata 2.5inch SSD for your system and install windows on it. You will see a noticeable performance improvement.

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bhopali91355 wrote:

Check PCIE version. It should have minimum 3.0 version otherwise (PCIe 2.0) don’t buy ssd.

Can you explain little bit more about PCIe version.

I too wanted to upgrade my laptop [HP Probook 4330s] in near future. It has i5-2520m which supports PCIe 2.0 only. So according to your comment “I should not buy SSD” 😔

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beingsr wrote:

Can you explain little bit more about PCIe version.

I too wanted to upgrade my laptop [HP Probook 4330s] in near future. It has i5-2520m which supports PCIe 2.0 only. So according to your comment “I should not buy SSD” 😔

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In general laptops from 2015 and earlier don’t support PCI-E/NVMe SSDs. In any case NVMe SSDs are absolute overkill for consumer workloads. Practically no benefit noticeable vs decent SATA SSDs. However at times when the price differential has been really small no harm in getting one. Otherwise SATA SSDs are much cheaper and there’s zero compatibility issues. Drop-in replacement for HDDs. Very old systems in which the SATA interface is limited to SATA I/II will hamstrung the SATA III SSDs (150,300 & 600MB/s max. speeds respectively ) but even in that case the tangible benefits over a HDD will be massive.


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A8-7410 wasn’t a particularly fast CPU even when it was launched and definitely not by today’s standards. I would suggest installing Windows 10 first to see how the CPU fares but without the mandatory upgrades it would be meaningless really. At least the SSD can be reused in a future system and RAM shouldn’t cost more than Rs 1.5k which is manageable. 


LTSC 2021 could be worth a try in case the full-fat Windows 10 is on the slower side. 

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In general laptops from 2015 and earlier don’t support PCI-E/NVMe SSDs. In any case NVMe SSDs are absolute overkill for consumer workloads. Practically no benefit noticeable vs decent SATA SSDs. However at times when the price differential has been really small no harm in getting one. Otherwise SATA SSDs are much cheaper and there’s zero compatibility issues. Drop-in replacement for HDDs. Very old systems in which the SATA interface is limited to SATA I/II will hamstrung the SATA III SSDs (150,300 & 600MB/s max. speeds respectively ) but even in that case the tangible benefits over a HDD will be massive.


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First of all THANKS for explaining in detail  KG+

Please answer this “The issue is whether my system [HP Probook 4330s] will support SATA SSD in DVD caddy or not & whether PCIe 2.0 will be of an issue for SATA SDD?” [I have checked the size of caddy]

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beingsr wrote:

First of all THANKS for explaining in detail  KG+

Please answer this “The issue is whether my system [HP Probook 4330s] will support SATA SSD in DVD caddy or not & whether PCIe 2.0 will be of an issue for SATA SDD?” [I have checked the size of caddy]

PCI-E/NVMe and SATA are mutually incompatible. Not relevant to your case but just FYI, M.2 NVMe slot can accept both but not the other way around. 

There should be no issue in switching out the optical drive with an SSD provided  the right drive caddy is available. Just check in HWInfo etc. whether the optical drive is SATA II or III. If it’s the former then you should replace the HDD with SSD and move the former to the optical drive. 

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LIMBO wrote:

A8-7410 wasn’t a particularly fast CPU even when it was launched and definitely not by today’s standards. I would suggest installing Windows 10 first to see how the CPU fares but without the mandatory upgrades it would be meaningless really. At least the SSD can be reused in a future system and RAM shouldn’t cost more than Rs 1.5k which is manageable. 


LTSC 2021 could be worth a try in case the full-fat Windows 10 is on the slower side. 

I checked RAM it is costing around 3k is it correct because you mentioned it’s around 1.5k Crucial 4GB 1600MHz DDR3L 204-Pin Laptop Memory (CT51264BF160B)

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LIMBO wrote:

PCI-E/NVMe and SATA are mutually incompatible. Not relevant to your case but just FYI, M.2 NVMe slot can accept both but not the other way around. 

There should be no issue in switching out the optical drive with an SSD provided  the right drive caddy is available. Just check in HWInfo etc. whether the optical drive is SATA II or III. If it’s the former then you should replace the HDD with SSD and move the former to the optical drive. 

Hi , I checked  my optical drive is SATA 3 as it is 6GB/s.

my question is how to check the caddy size…

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govinda.h wrote:

Hi , I checked  my optical drive is SATA 3 as it is 6GB/s.

my question is how to check the caddy size…

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735288/original/20220118_180018.jpg?1642509306

If you are not able to determine the SATA interface employed for the ODD just move the HDD to it as even SATA-I won’t bottleneck it especially notebook ones. Swap out the HDD for an SSD.

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govinda.h wrote:

Hi , I checked  my optical drive is SATA 3 as it is 6GB/s.

my question is how to check the caddy size…

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You can check caddy size by first checking the model no. of DVD in Device manager and then searching the model no. of DVD on GOOGLE. You will get its size as well as other specifications.

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https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735308/original/sata.jpg?1642515706

@LIMBO bro pls check this once. I think my system supports SATA 3 but currently has only SATA 2hdd & SATA 1.3 Dvd. Am I right?

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beingsr wrote:

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735308/original/sata.jpg?1642515706

@LIMBO bro pls check this once. I think my system supports SATA 3 but currently has only SATA 2hdd & SATA 1.3 Dvd. Am I right?

It looks like it. SATA II has been around for close to 15 years now. 


Instal CrystalDiskInfo and post the ss. It’s hard to believe that the HDD is just SATA II. Laptop manufacturers are infamous for penny pinching… 

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LIMBO wrote:

It looks like it. SATA II has been around for close to 15 years now. 


Instal CrystalDiskInfo and post the ss. It’s hard to believe that the HDD is just SATA II. Laptop manufacturers are infamous for penny pinching… 

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/735311/original/CrystalDiskMark_20220118202157.png?1642517592

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