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Need inputs on EV options (Nexon EV vs. MG ZS EV)

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Dear dimers, anyone owns either a Tata Nexon EV or MG ZS EV? Would like to get some inputs.

Have been contemplating on getting a new car since a few months now but postponing my purchase in anticipation of a bit more refinement in EV space. I zeroed down on Nexon EV Lux+ and MG ZS EV Excite (like most prospective EV buyers).

Rumours say 2022 would witness a longer range Nexon EV on April and the 2022 MG ZS EV to go on sale either in April or August 2022. I will mostly wait for them.

In the mean time, can anyone help answer these two queries please?

1. Any consideration on expected resale post 8 year warranty period? My current grand will complete 8 years this April 2022 and I still am being offered 50% as resale value. I doubt the current generation EVs would command such high resale value, duly considering the high battery replacement cost as well. Any thoughts?

2. Anyone travelled on highways using a nexon EV? What’s the speed range and mileage on one charge on highways?

Thanks in advance.

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Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Wait up for more vehicles to get launched. And I have one query. What is your power source? State electricity from non fossil fuel or you got your own power generation system?🌞 If not Some states offer connected grid system via solar power with subsidies, do look it up. Better option than complete off grid system as of now.

Benevolent Benevolent
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It’s state electricity. Not keen on investing into solar again which is going to cost around 2.5 lakhs for 5 KW which is ideal for MG ZS EV.

Sadly Telangana state provides very minimal subsidies for EVs. Hope to see some changes after next budget.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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There are some good YouTube channels out there on which owners gave good advice and their experience of these vehicles. In my opinion buying an EV now is about saving money + concern about environment. And for those who travel 100 km daily and can afford an EV its a no brainer.


And about resale value, we are dealing with a technology which is evolving at rapid pace or who knows EV might not exist and other environmental safe options might evolve in 8 year time frame. So consider resale value as 0 for all practical purposes. 

Highway travel needs a lot of planning and plans always go wrong. Basically you need to plan in such a way that you stop for food at a place where they offer charging facility. It is best suited for journeys which can be taken with no time limitations. So most people run EV on daily basis and they have a second vehicle which can they use in emergency or for long rides. 

You say your 8 year old ‘grand’ is getting 50% value. Which vehicle is this? Grand i10? 


Benevolent Benevolent
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For me it’s saving money + ride quality. Yes, environmental impact might be an add-on but I strictly don’t believe the ecosystem is mature enough for it yet. My usage is around 1000 KM per month.


That’s the scary part I am concerned about. The resale value. Nexon sales person said battery replacement cost is 7 lakhs for full battery replacement. Got similar such estimates in case all cells need to be replaced in MG ZS as well.


My highway travel of late has been restricted mostly to our farm house which is 180 km away from home. Also, two charging station enroute at 70 and 120 km respectively. This can be tackled. One reason I am inclined towards base version of MG ZS over Nexon. Also, a few practical features on MG are marginally better and than Nexon.


Other highway travel in recent past was from Bangalore where I hire a zoomcar and drive from there.


Yes, it’s a Grand i10 Diesel Asta (o) – 2014 registered. Cost me 7.5 Lakhs back in 2014 and getting estimates of 3.8 to 4 lakhs now.

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Benevolent Benevolent
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bro stay away from mg, their batteries degrade very fast.

Benevolent Benevolent
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Any articles or reviews about it bro? Would like to read further.

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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I think you will be paying double the price if u buy mg zs EV as astor is available around 11Lakh petrol and ZS costs 10 lakhs more. Please consider Tata Nexon or wait for few years for other brands to launch their products.

Benevolent Benevolent
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Base version of MG ZS EV is excite and it’s comparable to Astor Super CVT and Astor Smart CVT as features lie in between. Super CVT is 15.29 on road and Smart CVT is 17.07 on road. Assume the exact comparable version of petrol CVT to cost around 16 Lakhs on road.


zs ev excite is 12.2 lakhs on road. So it’s effectively 6.2 lakhs more than comparable petrol version. The running costs plus emi cost of ZS ev is lesser than running cost plus emi cost of petrol version. So it’s not such a bad choice to opt for ev. 

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Generous Generous
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My suggestion (that is what I am following with my swift) just use your i10 for couple more years and see how it goes. By then there should be some maturity in the EV space. Personally I wouldn’t buy a EV 4 wheeler unless there would be a lot of feedback and there is upgrading of current tech. I don’t want to be the lab rat for the EV companies. 

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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For your answers, Better option than dd is team bhp 😀

Benevolent Benevolent
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Posted in the MG ZS EV thread about my concerns and awaiting response. The electric vehicles forum on team bhp isn’t the most active.

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Benevolent Benevolent
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with just 1000 KM a month Buying EV does not make sense economically. Hope you have done the maths considering 7-8 years of battery life, degradation of range over the years + extra price upfront.

EV does need lower maintenance..but wait a sec..as the car is priced more than petrol counterpart the insurance cost is high which takes away any cost saving towards yearly servicing 

Comrade Comrade
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dont take a Ev right now….it’s mostly the developmental stage…after two three years…the tech will start growing fast….and you will regret your decision….let the range get above 500-600 km…that,s usable…or else…you will waste a lot of time in charging only….the best bet right now is to take a Maruti Suzuki cng car…drive for 3-5 years..then sell and take ev…you will get 2nd best running cost..plus…maruti cng cars have very good resale value …

Trailblazer Trailblazer
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Check this video for more detail check his other videos

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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According to my opinion, You should defer your purchase of EV vehicles because it’s still developing, I am sure in few years time we may get long range EV’s, better coverage of charging points, new innovations in EV etc.


All the best for your research and do share the conclusion/end result.

Generous Generous
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I am more concern about battery cost and replacement need once 8 yr warranty is over. 

what if it costs 5lakh? All the saving down the drain.

Benevolent Benevolent
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a full battery replacement on Nexon EV is around 7 lakhs but ideally they only replace cells that went below 80% health. On MG ZS EV it’s almost the same too even though it has larger capacity. 

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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As a fellow prospective buyer, Resale is the one big worry for me. Given the range and the tech will improve significantly in the next 5 years, i wouldn’t expect a good resale, irrespective of the car condition as it would be a dated, first gen product.

One advice is for highways, it’s wise to keep a ICE car, be it your existing car or a different one. At the end, EVs have range limitations and it can be a problem if you’re in a hurry.

I agree with those who have suggested waiting, as most manufacturers are looking to develop both cheap versions as well as long range versions. If your car is in a good condition, manage for a couple of years and then take the plunge.

Benevolent Benevolent
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After great struggle with Tata Motors, could finally get a test drive of Nexon EV and done with test drives.


Test Drive 1: MG ZS EV

Started from my home in our colony and went on to not so busy stretches of road through some high traffic junctions. It was effortless getting used to the car and I felt the drive was so seamless. Mighty impressed with how it handles the bumps on city road, the instant torque of EVs, seating and riding comfort.


Test Drive 2: Nexon EV

Started from showroom on a very busy road with peak traffic. Throughout the ride I struggled to get accustomed to it’s default KERS levels which felt kind of intermediate step between level 2 and 3 on MG. Sadly, Nexon EV doesn’t have an option of adjusting KERS levels. Even by the time I ended my ride, I still couldn’t get adjusted to the KERS levels and it felt quite stressful. 

One other factor I noticed is the seating position which was more upright and strained my ankle joint. Nitty gritty – the horn location is plan terrible in Nexon.


Test Drive 3 – MG ZS EV

Realising how stressful it was driving Nexon EV in peak traffic, I requested and went back to MG motors to test drive ZS EV again but in peak traffic. Was pleasantly surprised how easily I could adapt to it even in peak traffic and throughly enjoyed the ride.


Decided to go with MG ZS Excite version and paid the booking amount today. But I intend to wait for the launch of 2022 version which is rumoured to be out in India in August 2022 as per articles online and April 2022 as per the sales person in showroom. It’s launched in Europe in November 2021. Either ways, I have no urgency and will wait for the updated 2022 version. I paid the booking amount to ensure I am given preference and early delivery once the new model is out.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Congratulations. So how much it will cost when it reaches you?

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Glitterati Glitterati
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Y dont you plan for hybrid read  all comments

Benevolent Benevolent
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not keen on ICE engines. I often hear about better ride quality in EVs but once I experienced it I was completely sold. Also, in Hybrid, EV part is very minor range like 50 to 60km per charge. It’s mostly ICE engines that people end up using on them. 

Benevolent Benevolent
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5 months later and after Tata Motors launching Nexon EV Max, it’s all clear now. I had booked MG ZS EV on 05th Jan 2022 and few months later on 01st April 2022 I booked Nexon EV as well as I realised a few deficiencies in ZS EV. Mind was wavering between both and unable to decide which to opt for.

With the launch of Nexon EV Max today, Tata Motors ironed out every issues with Nexon and in fact one upped ZS EV with better features such as ventilated front seats and auto dimming IRVM. Also, rear seat comfort of Nexon is way better than the one on ZS EV. All of it at 7 lakhs less than what ZS EV costs.

I moved my booked from Nexon EV to Nexon EV Max today. Will be cancelling the booking for ZS EV and get a full refund. The wait for Nexon EV Max begins now, no timelines yet.

Generous Generous
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what are deficiencies of zs ev? Little light on comparison that you understood till now? 

Benevolent Benevolent
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Only major drawback that apparently was a deal breaker as well was the rear seats of ZS EV.

1. Though, on paper, it’s as wide as Nexon, inside the car it’s more cramped than nexon to fit in 3 adults.
2. The legroom is just as good/bad as Nexon even though it’s a 4.3 meter car and nexon a 4 meter car. Barely an inch more in ZS EV. Also, of the compact SUVs ZS EV and Astor have the shortest wheelbase which speaks once you get in. The Creta, Seltos, Taigun and Kushaq all have longer wheelbase and more kneeroom
3. Under thigh support is plain bad as the depth of seats are lot shorter. Add to that the elevated knees because of raised floor, it makes it plain terrible! 

Compared to that, Nexon literally tucks you in well and has one of the best rear seats in the segment. Under thigh support is really good but what Nexon looses out on is the ingress/egress as it’s ground clearance is lot higher.

Other minor points that I dislike about the ZS EV
1. Lack of auto dimming IRVM, which is kind of a default in cars lot cheaper as well
2. Lack of ventilated seats which are now offered in cars costing 40% of what ZS EV does
3. Sound system that is mediocre at best.

Most of the above three points are something I can get over but rear seat comfort is a deal breaker. Thanks to my naughty little 1 year old who keeps pressing every button on the dashboard, he and my wife always end up in rear seat even on short drives. This makes the rear seat comfort quite important for me.

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