[Need suggestion] Is it worth taking club mahindra 3 years membership ?

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Can anyone who is experienced or exisiting member of club mahindra help ? Is it worth spending 1 lakh in their membership of 3 years ?

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bella_ciao wrote:

Can anyone who is experienced or exisiting member of club mahindra help ? Is it worth spending 1 lakh in their membership of 3 years ?

if it is that “time share holidays” thing, proceed with caution.

back in the day, often got pitched hard by the agents or employees of Sterling Holiday and Resorts Limited.
but often we would see or come to know of many of their properties being in a ramshackle state.
Properties within India, i meant. Not sure how good or otherwise their European tie-ups were.
But overall this model is not that appealing or shall i say “was” not too feasible for average Indian.
Now of-course, people have higher aspirations, more discretionary spending.

Sterling got taken over by the Indian operations of Thomas Cook, so hopefully has a dedicated focus, proper management.
Though i have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of how worthwhile it is to pay them in advance for future trips, which one may or may not get the time, resources for.

No direct idea of Club Mahindra.

But anyway, if you are young or even if looking for elders
and already a savvy shopper (DesiDime visitor) then planning the trips on one’s own or having travel agencies or even IRCTC/railways provide good packages is something which one can do by themselves.
Often hotel or resort dwals or packages from Thomas Cook, Cox & Kings, Veena’s World (daughter of Kesari Travels promoter), Akbar Travels, IRCTC and Taj group or other hotel chains themselves offer good off-season packages.

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donotkillmeyet wrote:

if it is that “time share holidays” thing, proceed with caution.

back in the day, often got pitched hard by the agents or employees of Sterling Holiday and Resorts Limited.
but often we would see or come to know of many of their properties being in a ramshackle state.
Properties within India, i meant. Not sure how good or otherwise their European tie-ups were.
But overall this model is not that appealing or shall i say “was” not too feasible for average Indian.
Now of-course, people have higher aspirations, more discretionary spending.

Sterling got taken over by the Indian operations of Thomas Cook, so hopefully has a dedicated focus, proper management.
Though i have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of how worthwhile it is to pay them in advance for future trips, which one may or may not get the time, resources for.

No direct idea of Club Mahindra.

But anyway, if you are young or even if looking for elders
and already a savvy shopper (DesiDime visitor) then planning the trips on one’s own or having travel agencies or even IRCTC/railways provide good packages is something which one can do by themselves.
Often hotel or resort dwals or packages from Thomas Cook, Cox & Kings, Veena’s World (daughter of Kesari Travels promoter), Akbar Travels, IRCTC and Taj group or other hotel chains themselves offer good off-season packages.

Thank you for sharing your detailed experience wink Will consider this.

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Most of times they will show property occupied
You’ll have to buy highest package
To get the confirm availability
And yearly charges are crap

So NOOOO

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donotkillmeyet wrote:

how worthwhile it is to pay them in advance for future trips, which one may or may not get the time,

This is very true, a friend of mine took this membership, but he never had the time off from work for holidays.

In general this holiday sharing scheme work like this,

If you work for someone and can afford their membership fees you will never get time off from work for holidays. On the other hand, if you work for someone and have enough free time for holidays, you probably can’t afford their membership fees.

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teriab33 wrote:

This is very true, a friend of mine took this membership, but he never had the time off from work for holidays.

In general this holiday sharing scheme work like this,

If you work for someone and can afford their membership fees you will never get time off from work for holidays. On the other hand, if you work for someone and have enough free time for holidays, you probably can’t afford their membership fees.

time/money=life

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My parents bought their membership
Only paid first emi costing 15k
We didn’t go anywhere
Our 2nd emi was due
They took cheque in advance
We told agent via call that we don’t want to continue and cancel it
Even then they kept on depositing cheque and by grace of God I didn’t had money in that account so they didn’t deduct
I mailed to cc several times and escalated to highest level , didn’t receive any response even
Then complained on twitter then they cancel it

Long story in short
Stay away

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Make 3 FD of 33K for 6 mth, 18 mth and 30 mth. Use the maturity value to pay for hotel when you plan any trip. As long as you use standard offers, you will still have money left in hand even after paying for the hotels. AND you will be able to visit any place you want and stay in any property you want, instead of forced to go only where their properties are available.

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Bought sterling time share in 1994 for two rooms for 99 years. Its really coming in handy every year now. Hotels are nice although a little secluded. Leaving for himachal tomorrow 6am wink

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Bought club mahindra membership 25yrs at very initial years at very low rate.
The resorts no doubt are superb and lavish with good hospitality but you need to pay for evrytg other than stay.
Now the current price is not worth at all.

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donotkillmeyet wrote:

if it is that “time share holidays” thing, proceed with caution.

back in the day, often got pitched hard by the agents or employees of Sterling Holiday and Resorts Limited.
but often we would see or come to know of many of their properties being in a ramshackle state.
Properties within India, i meant. Not sure how good or otherwise their European tie-ups were.
But overall this model is not that appealing or shall i say “was” not too feasible for average Indian.
Now of-course, people have higher aspirations, more discretionary spending.

Sterling got taken over by the Indian operations of Thomas Cook, so hopefully has a dedicated focus, proper management.
Though i have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of how worthwhile it is to pay them in advance for future trips, which one may or may not get the time, resources for.

No direct idea of Club Mahindra.

But anyway, if you are young or even if looking for elders
and already a savvy shopper (DesiDime visitor) then planning the trips on one’s own or having travel agencies or even IRCTC/railways provide good packages is something which one can do by themselves.
Often hotel or resort dwals or packages from Thomas Cook, Cox & Kings, Veena’s World (daughter of Kesari Travels promoter), Akbar Travels, IRCTC and Taj group or other hotel chains themselves offer good off-season packages.

Absolutely disagree with your opinion on Sterling holidays. Would be glad if you share such strong i opinion with personal experience rather than going by what you hear from random strangers.

We have three memberships with Sterling holidays, one for 99 years and two others for 50 years validity. Been using the first one since almost 20+ years now.

The properties held by them are top notch and completely worth it. We ensure we go on at least one vacation to one of their properties every year.

Issue with such time share plans is availability of resorts. You need to plan your vacation well in advance and reserve your rooms well in advance too, else you will end up with unavailability.

The price you pay for the membership depends on how many points you would like to avail per year. The entire year is divided into segments and days in each segment costs some points for vacation.

For suppose, red is the highest level and costs around 3 points per day of vacation available. If your membership has15 points per year then you can avail 5 days stay during red season. The points get rolled over and accumulated for 3 years.

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raghupro wrote:

Would be glad if you share such strong opinion with personal experience rather than going by what you hear from random strangers.

well i concede, that my first cousin can be a little strange (at times), still i would not tag her as random stranger per se. Ditto for my aunt, uncle.

also the acquaintances (more like family now) are known to us (our family) since almost the same time as my age.

personal experience exists, in my capacity as someone part of an audit or ‘due diligence’ team (DD😉 is very important) for our principals, with some “distress sale” property taken over by them (Sterling) and rebranded.
had opportunity to visit/stay both before the purchase, transition phase and also visited few weeks (month plus) after the complete rebranding.

also, often such eval or feedback is subjective [in that… it may not necessarily have tangiable matrices always].
often even the small things matter. like even within India i have visited facilities, ranging from a simple dental care procedure – to the hoity-toity ones in the hospitality industry and it was pleasant to have someine inquire upfront (at times) … whether they should address me by my salutation or a simple ‘sir’, by my last name or by my first name.

of-course, the above has no direct bearing on my/our team’s experience with Sterling, but was merely to re-emphasize that even the small things matter (a lot, in any/many ‘service industries’).

Technically, a Due D team or any other kind of investigator, actuary, appraiser is not a (paying) patron. but the very nature of work they are in or the reason they are at the said facility, makes the at-least somewhat important (enough) for the in-charge (managerial) staff to NOT take things casually or give lame responses, lame excuses.
Right?
anyway, all that is not immediately reflecting upon Thomas Cook and the experiences/ anecdotes are from before (much before) the nearly ₹1 Billiin INR capex of Thomas Cook India to renovate the properties of Sterling Holidays (after the takeover).

maybe that ours’ were all the oddball (one off) cases but they are real nonetheless. and we FULLY appreciate and acknowledge that yours’ might have been less irksome (pleasurable even).

in general, (the “o p i n i o n” part only comes in now @raghupro ) i feel that somehow handling or having a greenfield expansion (in many ways) is far more seamless … .. than to try and assimilate people (¿baggage?) while taking over businesses. cultures and the moulds people set themselves in to.. are not always easy to change (for the better).
(also, even at the risk of sounding silly/ irrelevant, i often find tailors either quoting unrealistic price to repair/alter a garment like a denim jeans or give too extended timelines.. THAN the ones for actually stitching a similar garment anew.
i am not too sure if this validates my earlier “greenfield versus takeover” analogy, but i think😉 it does).

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raghupro wrote:

Absolutely disagree with your opinion on Sterling holidays. Would be glad if you share such strong i opinion with personal experience rather than going by what you hear from random strangers.

We have three memberships with Sterling holidays, one for 99 years and two others for 50 years validity. Been using the first one since almost 20+ years now.

The properties held by them are top notch and completely worth it. We ensure we go on at least one vacation to one of their properties every year.

Issue with such time share plans is availability of resorts. You need to plan your vacation well in advance and reserve your rooms well in advance too, else you will end up with unavailability.

The price you pay for the membership depends on how many points you would like to avail per year. The entire year is divided into segments and days in each segment costs some points for vacation.

For suppose, red is the highest level and costs around 3 points per day of vacation available. If your membership has15 points per year then you can avail 5 days stay during red season. The points get rolled over and accumulated for 3 years.

You said the main factor.
Vacation needs to be planned very well in advance otherwise you do not get the locaiton you want to go for. Which means you need to have all the leaves and everything sanctioned also well in advance. Under present lifestyle and type of work, for 99% of the persons, such long term planning is practically impossible.
Also, You only get the property free while you need to pay for all other amenities and food. And in most cases, these amenities are absurdly high priced. The locations are generally iin secluded places where there is no other alternatives for food. So even after paying upfront a lumpsum, you still need to pay quite a lot. If you use proper offers, you can get a similar property on immediate booking basis, with free amenities at practically same or even lower total price.

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panchabhut wrote:

You said the main factor.
Vacation needs to be planned very well in advance otherwise you do not get the locaiton you want to go for. Which means you need to have all the leaves and everything sanctioned also well in advance. Under present lifestyle and type of work, for 99% of the persons, such long term planning is practically impossible.
Also, You only get the property free while you need to pay for all other amenities and food. And in most cases, these amenities are absurdly high priced. The locations are generally iin secluded places where there is no other alternatives for food. So even after paying upfront a lumpsum, you still need to pay quite a lot. If you use proper offers, you can get a similar property on immediate booking basis, with free amenities at practically same or even lower total price.

Sorry for being too generic but well in advance applies only for peak seasons such as Dussehra vacation, Christmas vacation, New Year’s eve etc. Not for all times.

Amenity charges are not exorbitantly high as you stated. We always avail a 1 bedroom villa that has one hall, kitchen, bedroom and 2 bathroom with extra sofa cum bed in hall. The amenity charges for this is Rs. 1350 per night. Added to that, we members get 20% discount on food as well when had at restaurant (not for room service). These are star rated properties and cost a lot more for non-members. Also, only guest rooms can be availed by non-members from portals such as make my trip and not member rooms and villas where available.

Again, these are meant for people who are willing to book good properties and have a good laid back vacation and doesn’t fit bill for everyone.

Locations being remote or secluded isn’t the case as always. The resorts are located in places which are meant for tourism, be it the hills or beaches or holy places. At these places most resorts are in secluded locations (referring to good large resorts and not the smaller hotels).

Sharing a sample video from our trip to Sterling Resorts at Wayand which was the last trip to their resorts. The part of the resort you see in the video is not even 20% of the entire property and this Wayand resorts isn’t even their largest in India. Tell me which other properties are in the heart of the town/city and are this large?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/WWPJUxrjh1U...f6

Then again, not all of Sterling Resorts are this large either.

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@raghupro
“well in advance applies only for peak seasons such as Dussehra vacation, Christmas vacation, New Year’s eve etc”
For someone with school going Children, these are the only times to go for a vacation. And about 10-15 years of your life, you will be in this category. So that excludes a large part of your life. Then there will be years when the children are near the board level exam and the family would skip going on vacations for 2-3 years.
I travel regularly both for official and personal purposes. My family normally has 2-3 vacations a year, sometimes even 4. I stay mostly at star accommodations only. With proper use of offers, It is possible to get a star accommodation at 4000-7000 per night incl tax, depending upon the location. I am assuming that the 1350/night you pay is excluding tax so incl tax that works out to about 1700/night. Most Star hotels provide one meal and breakfast complimentary. Whereas here you need to pay for this, even if with 20% discount. Now if we consider the real cost of the upfront non-refundable payment made initially, the total cost of amenities, food and cost of package is not very small.
And unless going on places like beaches or secluded hills to just enjoy doing nothing, people also do a lot of sight seeing and other activities when they go to a particular place. So they spend very little time in the hotel except for sleeping at night and getting ready in the morning.

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Sterling resort website is currently offering BOGO offer for many of their good properties & after discount room cost is coming at just 2-3k before Tax without meal.

Why to pay membership fees then?

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donotkillmeyet wrote:

well i concede, that my first cousin can be a little strange (at times), still i would not tag her as random stranger per se. Ditto for my aunt, uncle.

also the acquaintances (more like family now) are known to us (our family) since almost the same time as my age.

personal experience exists, in my capacity as someone part of an audit or ‘due diligence’ team (DD😉 is very important) for our principals, with some “distress sale” property taken over by them (Sterling) and rebranded.
had opportunity to visit/stay both before the purchase, transition phase and also visited few weeks (month plus) after the complete rebranding.

also, often such eval or feedback is subjective [in that… it may not necessarily have tangiable matrices always].
often even the small things matter. like even within India i have visited facilities, ranging from a simple dental care procedure – to the hoity-toity ones in the hospitality industry and it was pleasant to have someine inquire upfront (at times) … whether they should address me by my salutation or a simple ‘sir’, by my last name or by my first name.

of-course, the above has no direct bearing on my/our team’s experience with Sterling, but was merely to re-emphasize that even the small things matter (a lot, in any/many ‘service industries’).

Technically, a Due D team or any other kind of investigator, actuary, appraiser is not a (paying) patron. but the very nature of work they are in or the reason they are at the said facility, makes the at-least somewhat important (enough) for the in-charge (managerial) staff to NOT take things casually or give lame responses, lame excuses.
Right?
anyway, all that is not immediately reflecting upon Thomas Cook and the experiences/ anecdotes are from before (much before) the nearly ₹1 Billiin INR capex of Thomas Cook India to renovate the properties of Sterling Holidays (after the takeover).

maybe that ours’ were all the oddball (one off) cases but they are real nonetheless. and we FULLY appreciate and acknowledge that yours’ might have been less irksome (pleasurable even).

in general, (the “o p i n i o n” part only comes in now @raghupro ) i feel that somehow handling or having a greenfield expansion (in many ways) is far more seamless … .. than to try and assimilate people (¿baggage?) while taking over businesses. cultures and the moulds people set themselves in to.. are not always easy to change (for the better).
(also, even at the risk of sounding silly/ irrelevant, i often find tailors either quoting unrealistic price to repair/alter a garment like a denim jeans or give too extended timelines.. THAN the ones for actually stitching a similar garment anew.
i am not too sure if this validates my earlier “greenfield versus takeover” analogy, but i think😉 it does).

Thanks for sharing about your valuable experience, could you elucidate a bit further on what specific metrics/experiences they failed to live up to?

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drjpatwa wrote:

Sterling resort website is currently offering BOGO offer for many of their good properties & after discount room cost is coming at just 2-3k before Tax without meal.

Why to pay membership fees then?

On many major resorts the member rooms are different from rooms availed by guests. The ones that are like independent cottages/villas are reserved only for members while the guest rooms are in form of a hotel building.

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