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Now TRAI is after those SIM cards which are not recharged frequently, considering to impose penalties on such telecoms

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https://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/tech/gadg...

The penalty would be charged on Service providers but they may transfer this burden to consumers.
The reason provided is that people don't recharge secondary numbers regularly and such numbers should be blocked, as there is shortage of new numbers

These regulatory bodies are here to make our life better but it seems like they don't want us even to have few food things which we have.

We Indians, as a consumer class will never enjoy good quality products and services due to our badly designed policies.

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Benevolent Benevolent
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basically favoring duopoly as Vi or bsnl is secondary number for mostly anyone who still has them, this number thing is bullshit they opened number with starting 6xxx there is still 5xxx series available, also total no of subscribers dropping as people can't have multiple sims anymore, all those numbers goes in recycling anyway 

this reminds me when airtel said OTT platform needs to pay telecos money cz most of data used on them??!!!

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Why isn't this news widely published on major news sites?

I believe it's a clickbait and build up news from too much little information.

Only english version I got : https://www.lokmattimes.com/technology/trai-pla...

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Avant Garde Avant Garde
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This is just pure corporate lobbying.They have no problem with dual sims.They have problem with low recharge on second sims.They have already made keeping second sim a money pit.Now they wants more.And I am sure, there will be some corporate apologists who will try to justify it, giving nonsensical arguments about safety, privacy etc

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Benevolent Benevolent
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Now this will be justified too @sherlock paji
Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Everyone would be affected.

Only a particular section of society has the ability to justify it.

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Seems like another click bait article by NBT..... Share TRAI's circular or any credible news portal's article link!

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Almost all the leading publishers have covered the news.
Read any national newspaper which you subscribed to, and you will find the news
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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Well its a good move i would say for safety:) to avoid sims being dormant:) if you dont need just cancel the sim, if you need the sim just recharge minimum PAYING MORE TO TELECOM COMPANIES:) xD

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That minimum recharge is the trap to generate more money.


And safety wala bhana to Trai bhi nhi bana rha bhai
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If it is about this https://trai.gov.in/sites/default/files/Recommendations_29052020.pdf or any later white-papers

then the 'lack of fresh numbers' logic is a hogwash (in my view).

Back in December, 2002‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏when many locations migrated to the new/longer number formats.. it did not really cause that many issues for seamless integration.

For example, in Bombay, the landline numbers went from seven digits to eight digits.

We are over two decades ahead and even more resourceful than before.

If aspirations keep growing, along with incomes and their solution is to penalise use of a service, then what would they have done with IP addresses¿ if IPv6 did not happen?
Charge ISPs extra for every device connecting through them?

I would not be surprised if the 'let us penalise using the service' idea stemmed from some bureaucrat (babu) who moved to TRAI from some power distribution company.
(Getting charged higher rates for using additional electricity though has valid grounds. Applying that logic to commodities like phone numbers is comical.)
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can u create a poll to find how many people here use two phone numbers

Talk-Of-The-Town Talk-Of-The-Town
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Indians will start using keypad phones and Tablets.20240613175302 
Benevolent Benevolent
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basically favoring duopoly as Vi or bsnl is secondary number for mostly anyone who still has them, this number thing is bullshit they opened number with starting 6xxx there is still 5xxx series available, also total no of subscribers dropping as people can't have multiple sims anymore, all those numbers goes in recycling anyway 

this reminds me when airtel said OTT platform needs to pay telecos money cz most of data used on them??!!!

Talk-Of-The-Town Talk-Of-The-Town
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What ?

OTT should also pay...

What does this Mittal Smoke ???

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Finance Mentor Finance Mentor
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Why isn't this news widely published on major news sites?

I believe it's a clickbait and build up news from too much little information.

Only english version I got : https://www.lokmattimes.com/technology/trai-pla...

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Times of India

https://www.google.com/amp/s/timesofindia.india...

Lallantop

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelallantop.c...


Business standard
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.business-stand...


Economic times
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.co...


Firstpost
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/...


Hindustan times

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hindustantimes...
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Entertainer Entertainer
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I recharge 2 nos with yearly plan. Why would govt care even if I use 2 sims or more. Does it matter? 

Also, how can you justify when a person got 8 connections and all are active? 

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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This is one of the most hoaxed and clickbait title I have seen in recent times (got a mini heart attack after reading the title). This is only applicable when you do not recharge your secondary number. People like me who use Vi and BSNL (using later as secondary but recharge every month) has nothing to fear with it. If you want service, you need to pay for it, nothing is free.

Finance Mentor Finance Mentor
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considering whether to impose penalties on operators, who are holding on to number resources with low utilisation. For example, a subscriber with dual SIMs not using one for a long time but the operator is not cancelling this number in fear of losing user base.

Most probably, trai is expecting more revenue from the players like Jio / Vi who generously keeps nos active even without recharge. 

Obviously users recharging won't get affected.

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facts are true, the only issue is with the headline used by news agencies .
They use such headlines that readers find hard to ignore and are forced to read the news or click on the link which often 
If you visit the website of the handle shared by you, you will find almost all the news agencies there  😀
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This is just pure corporate lobbying.They have no problem with dual sims.They have problem with low recharge on second sims.They have already made keeping second sim a money pit.Now they wants more.And I am sure, there will be some corporate apologists who will try to justify it, giving nonsensical arguments about safety, privacy etc

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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there was a time when we used to get lifetime validity of Sim cards by default...
We have come a long way since then
Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Monthly recharge price is so high that it is difficult to recharge only first sim for many. The number of people using dual sim reduced drastically. It is a good move. They can ask phone makers to stop making phones with dual sim.

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The government should prioritize helping individuals over businesses.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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thats where PSU comes in but this govt wont support it lol they sell it toungueout to private
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Savings Mentor Savings Mentor
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Well I've to put my foot down and say this notion is OUTRAGEOUS and ludicrious. TRAI is in bed with Chortel and Jio|oiL now.

If anything they should be charging less.

Avant Garde Avant Garde
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I just want to add some greedy tricks these network providers use which TRAI has turned blind eyes on:
I. 28 days month concept.

By this method, we are actually paying for 13 months in a year.
II. minimum recharge concept.

Now a days, minimum recharge to keep a number active is getting ludicrous high. Its like ₹179 for 28 days.
III. Forced Plans options. There are no options now to pick only calling plans or validity plans. All in one plans are replacing those.
IV. No human customer or customer support only for premium users.

Just open your phone and try reaching out to an actual human support.

Its getting near to impossible.

Benevolent Benevolent
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Prepaid is not like prepaid anymore. It's just postpaid but with advance payment 

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Clickbit...

Trai is after inefficient use of numbers allocated to telecom providers..nothing to do with 1st SIM or 2nd SIM in the phone ..

Trai want to encourage recycling of numbers.. today numbers are kept in suspended state for months..

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Breaking news - TRAI tells govt. to shut down DesiDime.com for purposes not complying  with Rules or Policies.

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I always hate TRAI 

Hardly think from consumer side 

Many want to use single SIM, but unfortunately, we have to use 2-3 sim because we want to keep personal or professional separate, and some do not want give primary number to everyone 

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Public outrage worked, file closed, at least for the time being
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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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@Venom14 hi

News is not false, in fact the headlines used by media outlets was misleading.

I have modified it accordingly as per my understanding of the situation 

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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https://x.com/TRAI/status/1801538202567852224?t...

Accept your mistake man! TRAI has clearly said it's fake news!

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Generous Generous
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TRAI is becoming RBI . what about fake callers ,mobile scam , app sending our data , deep web data leaks, low speed on 4g/5g, network coverage , call drop ?

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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close multiple sims of car dealerships & service centres who keep bombarding everyday asking "sir gaadi service ke liye kab pickup karni hai" wink

Savings Mentor Savings Mentor
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Well the article does clearly say the penalty would be charged on service providers but charges will be passed on indirectly to customers by the cellular service providers. TRAI has clarified that only - that they don't directly plan to charge customers for multiple SIMs. Doesn't mean cellular service providers won't. They need stricter regulation

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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You got it right.

There may be some flat annual or quarterly charges for keeping a number active apart from recharge.

Something like rent for keeping the number.

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fake news

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Yes bro, its fake ...avoid it
Actually, This platform DD itself is fake, delete ur account and live in peace
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Trai, if you're going to disconnect, just do it without causing an alarm. We will deal with it later

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