OneWeb to start commercial satellite broadband in India

cheers to all airtel users.

they will get better connectivity and plans are gonna rise aswell.

Jio is also in queue for the same but Starlink is still not getting license to start commercial services due to pressure from ambani and mittal. p.s. i have seen a super rich guy using starlink in his office here, the speed is insane. he has registered his canada address to purchase the device.

I want to know when all this commercial satellite internet companies will go bankrupt.

Satellite internet is expensive and speed is also lowest, once user base will increase.

If they are planning to launch on rural and unconnected areas then it is just a matter of time.

Once user base will increase, Jio fiber and Airtel fiber will expand to those areas including Govt's own BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited).

Fiber is cheap and only one time investment.

Last thing, there are a lot of players (Satellite internet service providers) but there are not that many users who use satellite internet. Everyone will eventually go bankrupt.

kukdookoo wrote:

Jio is also in queue for the same but Starlink is still not getting license to start commercial services due to pressure from ambani and mittal. p.s. i have seen a super rich guy using starlink in his office here, the speed is insane. he has registered his canada address to purchase the device.

The speed is insane because no user base here but in US, Canada speed is already decreasing. Many Starlink users now got few Mbps speed, earlier they got approx 150 Mbps speed.

Starlink has now also started capping on your internet usage. Now Starlink can't provide unlimited high speed internet.

abhishek012 wrote:

I want to know when all this commercial satellite internet companies will go bankrupt.

Satellite internet is expensive and speed is also lowest, once user base will increase.

If they are planning to launch on rural and unconnected areas then it is just a matter of time.

Once user base will increase, Jio fiber and Airtel fiber will expand to those areas including Govt's own BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited).

Fiber is cheap and only one time investment.

Last thing, there are a lot of players (Satellite internet service providers) but there are not that many users who use satellite internet. Everyone will eventually go bankrupt.

Govt will support the industry with low fee etc,it will become necessary for Govt to have connectivity via satellite where broadband is not able to reach like deserts,oceans,aviation,oil rigs, mountains ,border area and deep rural area.

abhishek012 wrote:

I want to know when all this commercial satellite internet companies will go bankrupt.

Satellite internet is expensive and speed is also lowest, once user base will increase.

If they are planning to launch on rural and unconnected areas then it is just a matter of time.

Once user base will increase, Jio fiber and Airtel fiber will expand to those areas including Govt's own BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited).

Fiber is cheap and only one time investment.

Last thing, there are a lot of players (Satellite internet service providers) but there are not that many users who use satellite internet. Everyone will eventually go bankrupt.

Nope. It will get better and better watch. The wires will be gone. More satellites in coming time for more traffic. After DTH, it's Direct internet home! No building monopolies, no local gundas! Elon will probably lease out to other players.

abhishek012 wrote:
The speed is insane because no user base here but in US, Canada speed is already decreasing. Many Starlink users now got few Mbps speed, earlier they got approx 150 Mbps speed.

Starlink has now also started capping on your internet usage. Now Starlink can't provide unlimited high speed internet.

Musk is putting 100's of satellites per month in orbit. Google Starshield, it will have speeds in gb's and read how far behind Starlink is oneweb. Once chortel is successful in this field, do you think they will provide unlimited internet?

vicky191in310 wrote:
Govt will support the industry with low fee etc,it will become necessary for Govt to have connectivity via satellite where broadband is not able to reach like deserts,oceans,aviation,oil rigs, mountains ,border area and deep rural area.

I know but satellite internet is not profitable in those areas.

Govt will never support satellite internet industry. Ya govt may do this stupid thing in the beginning but in the long term govt will understand that this is all a useless and waste of money, when alternative options are also available.

5G Wireless Backhaul available to provide high speed internet on deserts, mountains, border area and deep rural area etc (except few areas).

And i am not saying that no one will use satellite internet, ya there are many areas where people will use satellite internet but the problem is there are not that many users which will generate profits.

There was an argument going on in the US, satellite internet is best for mountain areas and Alaska like states. One of them said, dude have you ever seen the roads in Alaska ?

There are so many beautiful roads in Alaska.

So what ?

You can lay fiber optic cables between the roads.

Every year US govt, release $300-$400 million dollars to expand fiber optic cables in rural areas but corruption is everywhere. All US telecom companies take that money and eat it. 😀

But what will happen, when satellite internet will expand to rural areas ? All US telecom companies will expand fiber optic cable there.

And you can't compare fiber optic cable internet speed and price with satellite internet.

If i talk about India then almost all Indian villages have fiber optic cable. BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited) lay fiber optic cable to all all 250,000-gram panchayats in the country, covering nearly 625,000 villages - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Broadband_...

The only thing missing is that there is no fiber internet provider.

There is a 90% chance is India, the 4G tower near your house is already connected with Fiber optic cable. Telecom companies just need to pull a fiber cable wire and bring it to your house. 😬

robinsharma1681852 wrote:

Nope. It will get better and better watch. The wires will be gone. More satellites in coming time for more traffic. After DTH, it's Direct internet home! No building monopolies, no local gundas! Elon will probably lease out to other players.

Do you know DTH satellite place is geo stationary orbit 37,000 kms above the earth's equator ? And DTH is one way traffic.

If you have problem with building monopolies, local gundas etc then use Jio AirFiber or Airtel Xstream AirFiber (wireless fiber internet connection).

Jio AirFiber - https://www.desidime.com/news/reliance-jio-airf...

Airtel Xstream AirFiber - https://www.desidime.com/news/airtel-xstream-ai...

Satellite internet is expensive, if you dnt have any other alternative then ya good to go but it is just a matter of time, fiber will expand to your house.

abhishek012 wrote:
I know but satellite internet is not profitable in those areas.

Govt will never support satellite internet industry. Ya govt may do this stupid thing in the beginning but in the long term govt will understand that this is all a useless and waste of money, when alternative options are also available.

5G Wireless Backhaul available to provide high speed internet on deserts, mountains, border area and deep rural area etc (except few areas).

And i am not saying that no one will use satellite internet, ya there are many areas where people will use satellite internet but the problem is there are not that many users which will generate profits.

There was an argument going on in the US, satellite internet is best for mountain areas and Alaska like states. One of them said, dude have you ever seen the roads in Alaska ?

There are so many beautiful roads in Alaska.

So what ?

You can lay fiber optic cables between the roads.

Every year US govt, release $300-$400 million dollars to expand fiber optic cables in rural areas but corruption is everywhere. All US telecom companies take that money and eat it. 😀

But what will happen, when satellite internet will expand to rural areas ? All US telecom companies will expand fiber optic cable there.

And you can't compare fiber optic cable internet speed and price with satellite internet.

If i talk about India then almost all Indian villages have fiber optic cable. BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited) lay fiber optic cable to all all 250,000-gram panchayats in the country, covering nearly 625,000 villages - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Broadband_...

The only thing missing is that there is no fiber internet provider.

There is a 90% chance is India, the 4G tower near your house is already connected with Fiber optic cable. Telecom companies just need to pull a fiber cable wire and bring it to your house. 😬

Dont know much about the business model of satellite internet,it may or may not succeed commercially ,but surely be useful for unexplored terrain,but what I understand is once you set up satellite internet it doesn't matter if you use in urban or deep rural area,and govt has made up there mind to initiate it,so users will surely be there.
The setup cost will be beared by corporates with support of govt.

abhishek012 wrote:

I want to know when all this commercial satellite internet companies will go bankrupt.

Satellite internet is expensive and speed is also lowest, once user base will increase.

If they are planning to launch on rural and unconnected areas then it is just a matter of time.

Once user base will increase, Jio fiber and Airtel fiber will expand to those areas including Govt's own BBNL (Bharat Broadband Network Limited).

Fiber is cheap and only one time investment.

Last thing, there are a lot of players (Satellite internet service providers) but there are not that many users who use satellite internet. Everyone will eventually go bankrupt.

You have no idea how cheaper it is and how that works.

abhishek012 wrote:
The speed is insane because no user base here but in US, Canada speed is already decreasing. Many Starlink users now got few Mbps speed, earlier they got approx 150 Mbps speed.

Starlink has now also started capping on your internet usage. Now Starlink can't provide unlimited high speed internet.

Agree

kukdookoo wrote:
You have no idea how cheaper it is and how that works.

LOL. Kabhi price dekhe bhi ho Starlink k.

Aur Starlink ka khud ka kahena hai, yeh demo hai isiliye loss me price kam rakhe hai, 3 to 4 times aur price increase karna hoga agar profit chahiye toh + speed capping bhi.

Satellite internet bas ek short time period me bahot success hoga, bas jab tak na fiber optic cable expand kar de (India ki baat kare toh already India me fiber optic cable approx saare villages tak pahoch bhi gaya he).

Ek positive side yeh hai ki, jaha fiber optic cable nahi hai woha next kuch saalo me pahoch jayega. Telecom companies ko ek idea mil jayega kaha pe user base jada hai jo acha khasa paise bhi kharch kar sakta hai fiber me.

abhishek012 wrote:
LOL. Kabhi price dekhe bhi ho Starlink k.

Aur Starlink ka khud ka kahena hai, yeh demo hai isiliye loss me price kam rakhe hai, 3 to 4 times aur price increase karna hoga agar profit chahiye toh + speed capping bhi.

Satellite internet bas ek short time period me bahot success hoga, bas jab tak na fiber optic cable expand kar de (India ki baat kare toh already India me fiber optic cable approx saare villages tak pahoch bhi gaya he).

Ek positive side yeh hai ki, jaha fiber optic cable nahi hai woha next kuch saalo me pahoch jayega. Telecom companies ko ek idea mil jayega kaha pe user base jada hai jo acha khasa paise bhi kharch kar sakta hai fiber me.

Paji aap credit card ki useless teams ko tweet karte raho. Leave the space things for other people.

kukdookoo wrote:
Paji aap credit card ki useless teams ko tweet karte raho. Leave the space things for other people.

Space is my favourite subject. People should know what is right and what is wrong.

Satellite internet is over-hyped, practically large scale pe possible nahi hai.

Aur maine toh ab tak bataya he nahi hai. Yeh sab Low Earth orbit me place kar rahe hai.

Log ya koi institute apne telescope se kuch dekh raha hai aur bich me Starlink k satellite aa ja raha hai. Abhi toh phir bhi kam hai, jab Starlink k satellite increase hoga log or institute sab court case karna start kar dega.

Phir US govt chah raha hai Starlink k satellite me hidden camera laga denge taki hum spy kar paye dusre country me.

Already china bol raha hai Starlink k satellite humare space me aaya toh udda denge. Kyunki US isko spy satellite ki tarah use karna chah raha hai.

Koi bhi govt yeh sab bardast nahi karega, bas large scale pe Starlink k satellite launch hone do phir dekho, ek se ek pange aayega aur tab tak fiber optic cable US, India me har ghar tak pahoch jayega aur wireless fiber bhi.

Short term me bahot hype hoga, maybe 5 se 10 years tak bhi khich sakta hai, phir sab thanda par jayega aur log wireline/wireless fiber pe he switch kar jayega. Aur jo bach jayega usse utna profit nahi aayega.

abhishek012 wrote:
Space is my favourite subject. People should know what is right and what is wrong.

Satellite internet is over-hyped, practically large scale pe possible nahi hai.

Aur maine toh ab tak bataya he nahi hai. Yeh sab Low Earth orbit me place kar rahe hai.

Log ya koi institute apne telescope se kuch dekh raha hai aur bich me Starlink k satellite aa ja raha hai. Abhi toh phir bhi kam hai, jab Starlink k satellite increase hoga log or institute sab court case karna start kar dega.

Phir US govt chah raha hai Starlink k satellite me hidden camera laga denge taki hum spy kar paye dusre country me.

Already china bol raha hai Starlink k satellite humare space me aaya toh udda denge. Kyunki US isko spy satellite ki tarah use karna chah raha hai.

Koi bhi govt yeh sab bardast nahi karega, bas large scale pe Starlink k satellite launch hone do phir dekho, ek se ek pange aayega aur tab tak fiber optic cable US, India me har ghar tak pahoch jayega aur wireless fiber bhi.

Short term me bahot hype hoga, maybe 5 se 10 years tak bhi khich sakta hai, phir sab thanda par jayega aur log wireline/wireless fiber pe he switch kar jayega. Aur jo bach jayega usse utna profit nahi aayega.

If space is your subject, then without googling please explain how are they gonna set a zero latency base on moon? Dont have time to read such replies.

kukdookoo wrote:
If space is your subject, then without googling please explain how are they gonna set a zero latency base on moon? Dont have time to read such replies.

What does this question mean here ?

By the way NASA is experimenting with laser communication in space.

Zero latency is practically impossible but laser communication will increase the bandwidth between earth and moon.

Anyway, even at the speed of light it takes 1 sec between the earth and the moon. Zero latency is 100% impossible.

abhishek012 wrote:
What does this question mean here ?

By the way NASA is experimenting with laser communication in space.

Zero latency is practically impossible but laser communication will increase the bandwidth between earth and moon.

Anyway, even at the speed of light it takes 1 sec between the earth and the moon. Zero latency is 100% impossible.

Ever heard of relay satellites? Do you know the time lag between an operaror and the LRV's camera arm movement during the Apollo programs? What you have mentioned as "experimenting" is exactly what Starhshield will do and more but you laughed it off. Who said anything about the speed of light here?

kukdookoo wrote:
Ever heard of relay satellites? Do you know the time lag between an operaror and the LRV's camera arm movement during the Apollo programs? What you have mentioned as "experimenting" is exactly what Starhshield will do and more but you laughed it off. Who said anything about the speed of light here?

Paheli baat toh tum kaha ki topic kaha lekar ja rahe ho.

Starshield is for US govt use and i know Starlink V2 satellite will use lasers to communicate between starlink satellites.

The entire topic about commercial satellite Internet. Jo long run me sab bankrupt hoga ya only enterprise customers like govt, military etc k liye rahega.

More satellites will probably cause more space garbage, atleast we have a gadiwala who picks up our kachra but what about space? also satellite based internet is just a temporary hype. The big internet operators or the backbone of internet namely Tier 1 ISPs aren't going to participate in this cause they know it doesn't have future, sure it's a futuristic tech but we are already using something similar with drop towers and such. Every corporation looks for sustainability but with this facade of satellites this isn't gonna be a sustainable venture, if i remember correctly Google had started something similar but with use of balloons or something and that too faded away slowly.