Query : 2.4 Ghz mobile hotspot speed limit with Jio 5G unlimited trial

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@guest_999 @LIMBO @ssganesh

Likely the limitation of your devices(phone wifi hotspot &/or laptop). In your mobile wifi hotspot settings make sure you are using a password & wpa2-aes only encryption.

Check speeds with USB Tethering. If its only  USB 2.0 speeds will be capped at 300Mbps or so. As a bonus the device temps. will be significantly lower. As an example when using hotspot over Wifi just 30-40Mpbs in case of Vi 4G (continuously for 6 hours) more often than not even active cooling might not be sufficient to limit battery temps. below 40°C but no cause for concern if using USB Tethering instead. 

P.S. 2.4GHz without channel bonding (20MHz only by default instead of 40MHz) is limited to a theoretical max. of 144Mpbs. Real world speeds will be significantly lower. You can test the limits by transferring data over FTP using apps like FileZilla, WinSCP. etc. 

Edit: Moto G82 is limited to USB 2.0. 

2.4ghz max speed is that much only. change Wi-Fi card if possible. 

guest_999 wrote:

Likely the limitation of your devices(phone wifi hotspot &/or laptop). In your mobile wifi hotspot settings make sure you are using a password & wpa2-aes only encryption.

Ohh, the laptop over regular wifi gives good speeds so don't think that's the issue the mobile itself could be. It's Moto G82 stock Android and not much old model either.

Yes WPA-2 is being used with a good password with no other device apart from my laptop.

5GHz adapters are pretty inexpensive. I had bought a cheap one from Aliexpress years back and it's pretty good. Doesn't support the Mobile Hotspot feature built into W10+ though. 

Edit: It only goes upto 300Mbps IIRC. 600Mbps and above from the likes of TP-Link etc. cost a pretty dime last I checked. 

2.4 GHZ is old band.

So speed will be less..

Try to get devices having wifi 5 or 6 standard.

With root you can enable channel bonding which will yield speeds nearly on par with USB 2.0. However it didn't work in my previous attempts some years ago. 

Bruh. It's your device limitation. Don't blame Jio for your trashy hardware.

LIMBO wrote:

Check speeds with USB Tethering. If its only  USB 2.0 speeds will be capped at 300Mbps or so. As a bonus the device temps. will be significantly lower. As an example when using hotspot over Wifi just 30-40Mpbs in case of Vi 4G (continuously for 6 hours) more often than not even active cooling might not be sufficient to limit battery temps. below 40°C but no cause for concern if using USB Tethering instead. 

P.S. 2.4GHz without channel bonding (20MHz only by default instead of 40MHz) is limited to a theoretical max. of 144Mpbs. Real world speeds will be significantly lower. You can test the limits by transferring data over FTP using apps like FileZilla, WinSCP. etc. 

Edit: Moto G82 is limited to USB 2.0. 

Thanks bro. Tried usb tethering & yes speed are better but still it's reaching max 100 Mbps after 5-6 tests so seems that's the limit of it I guess.

weed wrote:

Bruh. It's your device limitation. Don't blame Jio for your trashy hardware.

Was just curious to know bro not blaming anyone here.

offersfan36 wrote:

2.4 GHZ is old band.

So speed will be less..

Try to get devices having wifi 5 or 6 standard.

Can't change the device but will think of upgrading it.

LIMBO wrote:

5GHz adapters are pretty inexpensive. I had bought a cheap one from Aliexpress years back and it's pretty good. Doesn't support the Mobile Hotspot feature built into W10+ though. 

Edit: It only goes upto 300Mbps IIRC. 600Mbps and above from the likes of TP-Link etc. cost a pretty dime last I checked. 

External adapters or internal bro?

Ash-D wrote:
Can't change the device but will think of upgrading it.

Upgrade

Simbha3 wrote:

2.4ghz max speed is that much only. change Wi-Fi card if possible. 

Yeah bro will think of that. Thanks for help.

Ash-D wrote:
Can't change the device but will think of upgrading it.

You don't even need to upgrade or do anything. That 2 GHz internet is more than any person needs.

Ash-D wrote:
External adapters or internal bro?

External. USB-based. Realtek Wifi chip. Used to get pretty hot to the touch after a while of consistent 30Mbps downloads(Google+RailWire). Surprisingly in Linux distros speeds used to be limited to 2-3Mbps only despite installing the correct package to enable USB 3.0 support. Later I upgraded the RAM to 20GB to run multiple Windows instances comfortably. 

Ash-D wrote:
Thanks bro. Tried usb tethering & yes speed are better but still it's reaching max 100 Mbps after 5-6 tests so seems that's the limit of it I guess.

I get 300Mbps almost consistently over USB. A bit over 400Mbps is the maximum I have observed in my mobile while 300Mbps is the average. 

LIMBO wrote:

5GHz adapters are pretty inexpensive. I had bought a cheap one from Aliexpress years back and it's pretty good. Doesn't support the Mobile Hotspot feature built into W10+ though. 

Edit: It only goes upto 300Mbps IIRC. 600Mbps and above from the likes of TP-Link etc. cost a pretty dime last I checked. 

Those 300mbps/450mbps 5GHz devices were dual band N wifi devices, AC wifi devices start from 600mbps only. Tplink 600mbps AC wifi usb adapter costs around 990 while typical 300mbps single band/2.4GHz model cost around 500. Btw, on my latest laptop with intel wifi6 I can reach even 10MB/s(~80-90 mbps) on 2.4GHz band across 1 wall next room to router's room while on older laptop I never reached beyond 50-60 mbps(~6-7 MB/s) on 2.4Ghz band in same location.

guest_999 wrote:

Those 300mbps/450mbps 5GHz devices were dual band N wifi devices, AC wifi devices start from 600mbps only. Tplink 600mbps AC wifi usb adapter costs around 990 while typical 300mbps single band/2.4GHz model cost around 500. Btw, on my latest laptop with intel wifi6 I can reach even 10MB/s(~80-90 mbps) on 2.4GHz band across 1 wall next room to router's room while on older laptop I never reached beyond 50-60 mbps(~6-7 MB/s) on 2.4Ghz band in same location.

It was listed as Wifi AC. Let me check.

It's Wifi AC, 433/433Mbps. I confirmed by setting the Wifi Hotspot to 5Ghz band only. Realtek 8811CU chip. @guest_999

Are you using any VPN in your laptop? Protonvpn is usually very fast even for free users but occasionally it can be really slow. 

LIMBO wrote:

Are you using any VPN in your laptop? Protonvpn is usually very fast even for free users but occasionally it can be really slow. 

No bro I am not I using any VPN.

LIMBO wrote:

It's Wifi AC, 433/433Mbps. I confirmed by setting the Wifi Hotspot to 5Ghz band only. Realtek 8811CU chip. @guest_999

When we say 300/600/1200mbps etc wifi device then it typically means total throughput incl all bands available on that device. That 433mbps is for 5GHz Ac wifi band only, total throughput of your device will be 600mbps. 

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Adapter-600Mbps...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11a...13

Min speed for AC wifi is 433mbps which coupled with ~150mbps on 2.4Ghz means min total bandwidth of a wifi AC device should be at least 600mbps.

guest_999 wrote:

When we say 300/600/1200mbps etc wifi device then it typically means total throughput incl all bands available on that device. That 433mbps is for 5GHz Ac wifi band only, total throughput of your device will be 600mbps. 

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Adapter-600Mbps...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11a...13

Min speed for AC wifi is 433mbps which coupled with ~150mbps on 2.4Ghz means min total bandwidth of a wifi AC device should be at least 600mbps.

But total throughput doesn't matter for mobile hotspots, right? As they can only serve data over 1 one band at a time AFAIK. 

LIMBO wrote:

But total throughput doesn't matter for mobile hotspots, right? As they can only serve data over 1 one band at a time AFAIK. 

Maybe as I don't know much about phone modem capabilities regarding hotspot functionality. Here though the issue seems most likely hardware limitations of devices involved(mobile &/or laptop).

@guest_999 @Ash-D

if 4g sim is used to connect phone's wifi to pc/laptop then if 5ghz is enabled in laptop and in phone then will it lead to more speed?

kukdookoo wrote:

@guest_999 @Ash-D

if 4g sim is used to connect phone's wifi to pc/laptop then if 5ghz is enabled in laptop and in phone then will it lead to more speed?

Yes.

LIMBO wrote:

But total throughput doesn't matter for mobile hotspots, right? As they can only serve data over 1 one band at a time AFAIK. 

Yes hotspot works with 1 band at a time.