Sole replacement for leather shoes - Need some information

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Budhe-Baba

I have a costly leather shoes of Clarks purchased 3 years ago. It is still very good from the top, but the bottom (sole) is completely gone and has to be replaced. Dont want to throw it because costly.

I went to local mochi, he said some Airmix sole he can put costing 350 rupees.

Should I get this airmix sole installed (400 rupees total)? Any downsides that anyone of you might know about sole replacement?

And also what is this Airmix sole and is it better than Rubber, and does it really cost 400 rupees?

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Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Bro, go to some tyre shop (car bike tyre) , ask the person to heat some old tyre rubber and get it stick on ur shoe sole.

Saalo saal kahi nhi jayega wink

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kartikxxx wrote:

Bro, go to some tyre shop (car bike tyre) , ask the person to heat some old tyre rubber and get it stick on ur shoe sole.

Saalo saal kahi nhi jayega wink

No , its not like that. The sole has just crumbled and eroded,and detached from the top part of the shoe. So i dont think the tyre thing will work.

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Many professionals (mostly in the west) resole shoes with even leather soles.

This goes for Clarks or branded pairs too.

Better to call 18002104504 day after (i.e. Monday) before 5 p.m. and ask them where and how (if at all) can they help.

Alternate number is +91-22-48930200

 

So without giving us context of whether the previous sole was leather, Thermoplastic Rubber (TPR), PU Polyurethane

you just drop a Scud🚀 on us with:

Should I get my 3500₹  shoe’s sole replaced with 350₹ roadside sole?

 

Aren’t you already aware of that answer yourselves, honestly?

 

P.S.: Do you play rugby or any other contact sports wearing those shoes?

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏ ‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‘cause last I checked… there was an effin’ pandemic going on for most of those three years that you claim to have had those shoes.

So it couldn’t have been a case of someone running to office daily or attending social functions often… while in them.

 

Formal shoes (depending on type and usage) typically last 7-8 years for us, with moderate to good care.

Always letting them breathe after prolonged use and immediately tidying them up is normal habit now.

It doesn’t even take expensive creams or polish to help them cope.

As for soles, PU would tend to crack if left unused for long or in extremes of weather.

Then too, much can still be salvaged with adequate precautions. ‏‏

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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baba g naye boot lelo. the solution what you were told seems the only solution but it does not last long.

baba g bura mat man na 1 baat btao umar kitni ha apki?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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If the sole condition is fine and it has got detached, then the local mochi can stitch it again which would be very durable.

If the sole is eroded then the local mochi recommended new sole is the best option


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kukdookoo wrote:

baba g naye boot lelo. the solution what you were told seems the only solution but it does not last long.

baba g bura mat man na 1 baat btao umar kitni ha apki?

Umar zada hai. These boots hold both sentimental value as well as monetary value. Iss samay, paise bachane bahut zaruri hein mere liye.

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aam_aadmi wrote:

If the sole condition is fine and it has got detached, then the local mochi can stitch it again which would be very durable.

If the sole is eroded then the local mochi recommended new sole is the best option


2nd condition. Eroded was the word I was looking for in my main post.

There are variety of sole: PU, Rubber, Airmix(?).

I was telling him ki Rubber ka lagao, he says Airmix is best, PU us worst, so he only uses Airmix. So wanted to check ki what is this Airmix thing?

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

So wanted to check ki what is this Airmix thing.
These boots hold both sentimental value as well as monetary value. ℐ𝓈𝓈 𝓈𝒶𝓂𝒶𝓎, 𝓅𝒶𝒾𝓈ℯ 𝒷𝒶𝒸𝒽𝒶𝓃ℯ 𝒷𝒶𝒽𝓊𝓉 𝓏𝒶𝓇𝓊𝓇𝒾 𝒽ℯ𝒾𝓃 𝓂ℯ𝓇ℯ 𝓁𝒾𝓎ℯ.

Seems like some fake name given to a more flexible variety of PVC.

Because, at most.. types of TPR are pushed off as fancy names like TPU, EVA and so on.

But those still are industry standard (names).

This ‘Airmix’ seems just a made-up name, locally.

Obviously nothing that should ever be even considered for any good quality footwear.

 

Hope you don’t get hurt.

Not trying to be judgemental but

If you’ve (for whatever reasons or factors that seemed unusual) fallen on such dire times..

then rather than your door handles, cookware, footwear.. you rather need to revist YOUR own life, the priorities and options.

Sorry again, but if it had leather soles earlier (despite its pros and cons) … going in for something similar is highly advisable… than the PVC soles suggested by the cobbler.

 

Yes we understand sentimental values too.

Here is another @Budhe-Baba (he comes in the very end of the video) getting his old (already repaired earlier) Ferragamos re-soled over at Dan’s workshop.

 

⁽ʸᵒᵘ ᵃʳᵉ ᵃ ᴰⁱᵐᵉʳ‧ ᶜᵃⁿ’ᵗ ʸᵒᵘ ʲᵘˢᵗ ᵒʳᵈᵉʳ ᵃ ⁿᵉʷ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵒⁿ⁻ˡⁱⁿᵉ ᵃⁿᵈ ᵗʰᵉⁿ ᶜˡᵃⁱᵐ ʸᵒᵘ ʳᵉᶜᵉⁱᵛᵉᵈ ᵘˢᵉᵈ ᵒⁿᵉˢhttps://cdn0.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif?⁾

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kukdookoo wrote:

baba g naye boot lelo. the solution what you were told seems the only solution but it does not last long.

baba g bura mat man na 1 baat btao umar kitni ha apki?

baba g ka to web series bhi aata hai aashram 

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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pahle ye batao boot kitne ki hai ?

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titamazon wrote:

pahle ye batao boot kitne ki hai ?

INR 3333.33₹ now

(after depreciation as per reducing balance method).

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Am a Rubber sole manufacturer and according to me, and the general consensus is, Rubber soles are the best and durable for all seasons/weathers as TPR/PVC (Airmix is lightweight PVC) generally loses its volume (erodes) in high temperature while it stiffens and may break in extreme cold condition. Disadvantage of PU is that, if you do not use the shoe for 3-6 months, it will just break into pieces; so it should always be in use, though tech has improved recently.

But, do note that Rubber soles are generally heavy- 30% heavier than PVC/TPR/PU as min. density is 1.2 for Rubber & 0.9 for other soles. Clarks generally use Rubber soles for formal but TPR/PVC for casual shoes; do think about weight and decide.

Having said that, there has been tremendous improvement in quality of TPR/PVC/PU in last 5 years and most of the brands have moved from using exclusive Rubber soles to all these materials. Airmix is light weight PVC sole and should serve your purpose. Go with the mochi guy suggestion as getting sole alone is not important, he should also have the same profile/fit sole, only then you will be to gain that comfort/satisfaction.

Deal Captain Deal Captain
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If the sole is fine and just for separated then any local mochi can paste it.

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baba soul prasthan ki chinta karo… aapko sole ki padi hai… sad toungueout

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kartikxxx wrote:

If the sole is fine and just for separated then any local mochi can paste it.

i felt they charge too much …

recently i have seen cobbler taking 200rs for attaching soul of pair of shoes which got detached

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vijkap201 wrote:

baba soul prasthan ki chinta karo… aapko sole ki padi hai… sad toungueout

Babaji also need 2 njoy lyf

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can someone say what is Eva material… is it good to wear them in wet areas


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@g.trax – KG to you. This is my shoes https://www.flipkart.com/clarks-un-walk-genuine...
Looks like it had EVA sole earlier. These shitty shoes crumbled just by sitting in my shoe rack for past 2 years (pandemic). Cant believe topmost brand like Clarks has poor quality shoes. And they lasted 5 yrs only with low-medium usage.

@cashif – KG to you. Where are you from? Will PM you. because the Mochi I went to showed me a sample, it had glue visible at the joints, which is what I dont want. So looking for slightly better repairman.

@kartikxxx – It has totally crumbled, not just separated.

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geni wrote:

i felt they charge too much …

recently i have seen cobbler taking 200rs for attaching soul of pair of shoes which got detached

My bata shoe sole got separated last week amd the cobbler charged me 80 for pasting the pair.

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“Online Repair for Shoes | Handbags | Jackets | Bags – Theshoexpert.in” http://www.theshoexp...in

I forgot the name of the business which runs on this concept only to fix branded shoes chappal heels … ..
U can try above link also , no experience how it is ..

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When did you start waking!

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

@g.trax – KG to you. This is my shoes https://www.flipkart.com/clarks-un-walk-genuine...
Looks like it had EVA sole earlier. These shitty shoes crumbled just by sitting in my shoe rack for past 2 years (pandemic). Cant believe topmost brand like Clarks has poor quality shoes. And they lasted 5 yrs only with low-medium usage.

@cashif – KG to you. Where are you from? Will PM you. because the Mochi I went to showed me a sample, it had glue visible at the joints, which is what I dont want. So looking for slightly better repairman.

@kartikxxx – It has totally crumbled, not just separated.

If the sole crumbled without use, then it is PU, as i mentioned in my post. PU are light weight and easy to make but the biggest issue is their initial lifespan. If they are not utilised for 3-4 months, they will just break into pieces.

As far as glue visible, that is the craftsmanship. In such a case, get it done at a factory. Am from Chennai and most of the Clarks shoes are made here and a place called Ambur, around 150kms from Chennai,, and is the shoehub of the country along with Agra

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cashif wrote:

If the sole crumbled without use, then it is PU, as i mentioned in my post. PU are light weight and easy to make but the biggest issue is their initial lifespan. If they are not utilised for 3-4 months, they will just break into pieces.

As far as glue visible, that is the craftsmanship. In such a case, get it done at a factory. Am from Chennai and most of the Clarks shoes are made here and a place called Ambur, around 150kms from Chennai,, and is the shoehub of the country along with Agra

During lockdown almost everyones footwear especially besides daily use ones where totally unused . When after a year people tried it , it was disaster , soles crumbled , cracks and became unusable.
This expensive brands soles also crumbled .

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7-8 years back i bought leather shoes with pu sole, just used few days and rainy season started kept them aside and when opened after 3-4 months the sole was crumbled into pieces, never bought pu sole again.

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kartikxxx wrote:

Bro, go to some tyre shop (car bike tyre) , ask the person to heat some old tyre rubber and get it stick on ur shoe sole.

Saalo saal kahi nhi jayega wink

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cashif wrote:

Am a Rubber sole manufacturer and according to me, and the general consensus is, Rubber soles are the best and durable for all seasons/weathers as TPR/PVC (Airmix is lightweight PVC) generally loses its volume (erodes) in high temperature while it stiffens and may break in extreme cold condition. Disadvantage of PU is that, if you do not use the shoe for 3-6 months, it will just break into pieces; so it should always be in use, though tech has improved recently.

But, do note that Rubber soles are generally heavy- 30% heavier than PVC/TPR/PU as min. density is 1.2 for Rubber & 0.9 for other soles. Clarks generally use Rubber soles for formal but TPR/PVC for casual shoes; do think about weight and decide.

Having said that, there has been tremendous improvement in quality of TPR/PVC/PU in last 5 years and most of the brands have moved from using exclusive Rubber soles to all these materials. Airmix is light weight PVC sole and should serve your purpose. Go with the mochi guy suggestion as getting sole alone is not important, he should also have the same profile/fit sole, only then you will be to gain that comfort/satisfaction.

moisture kills PU. Hydrolysis happens n long polymer chains get disintegrated. 🙂

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desiman wrote:

baba g ka to web series bhi aata hai aashram 

Nayi webseries honi chahiye
baba mast
ladki zabardast

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

Umar zada hai. These boots hold both sentimental value as well as monetary value. Iss samay, paise bachane bahut zaruri hein mere liye.

Paisa bachao paji achi baat par paise ke chakkar me time mat khrab kare jada
Sentimental kabhi bhi monetary cheezo ke liye mat hona

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

@g.trax – KG to you. This is my shoes https://www.flipkart.com/clarks-un-walk-genuine...
Looks like it had EVA sole earlier. These shitty shoes crumbled just by sitting in my shoe rack for past 2 years (pandemic). Cant believe topmost brand like Clarks has poor quality shoes. And they lasted 5 yrs only with low-medium usage.

@cashif – KG to you. Where are you from? Will PM you. because the Mochi I went to showed me a sample, it had glue visible at the joints, which is what I dont want. So looking for slightly better repairman.

@kartikxxx – It has totally crumbled, not just separated.

EVA seems to be glorified TPU/ TPR itself.

https://www.qyxieji.com/en/NewsShow/373.html

http://www.dexingshoes.com/en/news/424.html

https://www.bpf.co.uk/plastipedia/polymers/Thermoplastic_Elastomers.aspx

https://olukai.com/blogs/news/what-is-eva

Another form of polymer that can be heated slightly above the melting point of one of the polymer types … to mould in various shapes.

It is ideally more suited for midsoles and not outsoles.

Because weather and rough weartear would damage it.

The lightweight and the foam like bounciness is mostly achieved by trapping air pockets (at varying density).

Since it allegedly doesn’t require chlorine or other chemicals during manufacture

and is marketed as safe from animal testing or not being derived from animals

so it became popular.

Leather sole on this would make it much heavier than before.

Rubber or synthetic rubber/TPR too might make it heavier than EVA.

But still I feel that some proper workshop (or big cobbler with tools) or a shoe making factory should be approached.

If these shoes are otherwise in good shape,

they seem too classy (and costly) for them to be pasted with PVC.

Not all leather outsoles might be well made,

but if one intends to only occasionally use the formals,

would not really ‘run’ in them and are okay with noticeable excess weight.

Then even spending 1000-1100± on a good experienced workshop/ factory fitting a decently made leather sole is worth a shot.

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