What is 100% Sustainably Sourced Cocoa written on the pack of Cadbury Chocolates ?

Its about sustainable cocoa agriculture practices... They provide resources to cocoa farmers for better cocoa production, decrease deforestation, which overall increases farmer incomes (that's what they say in their media letters). Most important thing is sustainable agriculture does not involve child labour... But what I think is most important factor here is that the cocoa is traceable... meaning companies can trace which cocoa is coming to their factories from which farm.

But these companies like Cadbury & Nestle are big corporations; and are not really here for public service or farmer benefits. They do have ulterior motives behind as well for their own profits, which are often disguised as farmer benefits in a word play. Quite possible that when a company provides help to farmers for cocoa platation, they'll restrict farmers ability to sell it to anyone in open market. For once it may sound very reasonable at first, but is not the case always. If the company does not buy from the farmer, the produce is stuck with farmer. Like in the PepsiCo case (Kuruganti v/s PepsiCo India), it is ultimately found that PepsiCo provides better quality potato seeds to farmers but then restricts farmers ability to save, use, sow, resow, exchange, share or sell their farm produce. Whereas in media articles, they say that their restrictions on their seed variety is in order to safeguard the interests of thousands of farmers who grow the variety in contract with the company, through its 'collaborative farming programme'. You see, this is all a word game.

It is written to make it more palatable to socially conscious consumers.

Or at-least the ones who consider themselves as one!

I eat mithais. 

Rest all is name game

Mars, Nestlé and Hershey to face child slavery lawsuit in US

 Source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/...

bikidas2060 wrote:

Mars, Nestlé and Hershey to face child slavery lawsuit in US

 Source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/...

The court ruled 8-1 that the group had no standing because the abuse happened outside the US. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57...86

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bikidas2060 wrote:

Mars, Nestlé and Hershey to face child slavery lawsuit in US

 Source: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/...

Nestle happens to be the most unethical and immoral organization. No one can outdo their exploitation techniques.

bikidas2060 wrote:

The court ruled 8-1 that the group had no standing because the abuse happened outside the US. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57...86

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Retreat by Nestle on Ethiopia’s $6m debt

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/dec/20/m...

@atx88 Very well put.
However there might be slight deviation in the understanding.
I am unsure of cocoa in particular... but in general.. 'child labour' is not THE MOST crucial part of the 'sustainability' initiative.

It is mostly environmental concerns.. that sustainable agriculture or other initiatives seek to address.

So in our interactions within various industries.. (some of) the take out were..
■ Reducing dependence on subsoil water. Or at-least not abusing it.
■ Letting aquifers replenish and completely avoid exploiting the same.
■ Crop/ soil rotation. The technical term slips my memory at the moment. But at times it even entails leaving the land alone for a whole season, to replenish itself.
■ Obviously better means for those involved in agri and ancillary industries too is a touch point. Including letting go of avoidable blunders and ensuring humane working conditions.

Here, even stuff like the Rana Plaza tragedy and the exposé of the beauty and cosmetics industry w.r.t. child labour in Mica mining do come in.
■ Reforestation efforts too are a major part of sustainability initiatives for fibre, timber and many such industries with a direct impact on vegetation.
■ Tanneries, certain food processing or beverage making industries too get more backward integrated in water management and reuse of effluent discharge within the unit.
However honestly.. I am yet to see any such project achieving even half as much.. as it set out to keep our water bodies safe or at-least not add to the mess.
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@Best_Deal_Hunter
In one such interaction with someone within the Aditya Vikram Birla group.. we got introduced to their facilities which make the 'Birla Excel' yarn, Liva Reviva fibre.. and some of the fabric which was eventually to be used for their brands like 'Livaeco'.

I have to admit, that some of these initiatives which these large corporates claim.. aren't just on paper.
A lot does go into remaining profitable while trying to continually reduce the impact on other flora and fauna species.

Needless to say, Birla Excel and the actual consumer use brands like ☞☛https://livaeco.com☚☜ were way outside the range of the modest budget.. someone like me had.

The thing with sustainable sourcing is.. that it is not piecemeal.
One cannot simply go to Guangzhou, Vapi, Rajkot, Dhaka Valsad, Saigon, Tiruppur or Karachi》 get the stuff made》 come back and sell it elsewhere.

For cocoa plantations and allied sourcing too.. this applies.
Those engagements, associations and co-dependencies can stretch for decades on end.

The resources blocked and deployed over time have financial costs, other limitations too.
Financial costs often get passed on to the consumers.

But at-least there is a silver lining.
That Homo sapiens are striving to have a neutral or positive impact on other species and the planet as a whole.

BlueFlash wrote:
Nestle happens to be the most unethical and immoral organization. No one can outdo their exploitation techniques.

My memory fails me.. whether it was you, @bikidas2060 or someone else here, who mentioned it.
Or may be it was on some other forum.
Those cretins (Nestlé whizkids in marketing and/or the top management) convinced families, mothers in many underdeveloped nations (most of the former Belgian, French, British colonies in sub-Saharan Africa, elsewhere) to replace the mother's milk with their 'formula' and other garbage.
May be it was the 1980s or thereabouts.. when generations of kids fuelled their topline and did not get enough of the lifesaving milk.
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Their rspe and plunder of the already chronic situation of Napaakistan's water management/ mismanagement issues too made ample headlines. https://google.com/search?q=Nestlé%C3%A9%20pakistan%20water%20scandal

On the point of 'sustainability', their water situation is anyway.. too messed up already.
Unable to find that short episode which Soch Videos (Pakistan) brought out.
https://youtube.com/SochVideos/search?query=Water
They delved into some of the nuances of how the elites, power brokers (nee corruption) and overpopulation mired down the situation.
I think the title was in Urdu script, thus hard to find.

tower wrote:
@atx88 Very well put.
However there might be slight deviation in the understanding.
I am unsure of cocoa in particular... but in general.. 'child labour' is not THE MOST crucial part of the 'sustainability' initiative.

It is mostly environmental concerns.. that sustainable agriculture or other initiatives seek to address.

True, I agree.

Its just that the rich western liberals & intellectuals don't really care about environment as much as they speak about child labour. They don't really care about children of third world countries too, its just that child labour is lot more spoken of on all such public platforms as compared to environment. And that is one of the things these companies try to address with such initiatives on paper, at least, in most vocal type.

just some big words to increase price