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What is Your opinion on Atul shubhash case and other laws in fever of women ?

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Dill_hai_Hin...
Recently I got Notice for 498a case by ipolice. This was fake FIR filed against me and my family members.
I lost hope after watching Atul subhash case. Feeling sad and angry on our judiciary system.
Why Indian male are in marriage trap now a day's. Women's are misusing law's that have been made for their protection.

Please share your opinion, experience if any
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Prenup agreement should be made legal in India. That will automatically solve more than 50% upcoming cases

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@saymyname78 Supreme Court ka khud ka kahena hai 99% dowry cases jhoote hote hai India me.

Phir every 15 mins one rape cases reported

But within 5 years me 75% cases jhoote nikal jate hai and 10 years tak 90% woh saare rape cases jhoote nikalte hai.

Phir kuch youtubers ko dekha hu, over acting karte hue 1 sec me India me 2 ya 4 rape hote hai.

Phir bolte hai matlab mai jab yeh video bana raha hu 100 se jada rape ho chuke honge.

Aise altu faltu chize bolte rahete hai.

Matlab seriously logo me akkal hai.

Itne jada agar female pe julm hota na toh India me female ki population kam ho jata aur jo well educated family ki ladkiya jo hai woh sab mil kar India me ek aisa places bana deti jaha only females raheti and board laga hota "men are not allowed".

2nd thing, Lesbian ki sankhiya rapidly expand kar jata last 10 to 20 years me.

Last thing, maine mazak nahi kiya, kyunki jis way se India me dekhaya jata hai ladkiyo pe julm ho raha hai. Aise me India me female nahi bachti and jo bach jati ya toh lesbian hoti, ya foreign ladko se shaadi karti ya aise places hote India me bahut saare jaha, men are not allowed ka board laga hota and govt special Z security de rahe hote. Agar durr 10 kms me bhi koi admi dekhta toh on the spot without any question headshot ka order laga hota.

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this is coming from a privileged man in a patriarchal society. How would you know about the issues of women.
I don't want to get into the statistics part , just saying reported cases are very few because most of the rapes are done by people you know. report hi nahi karte "log kya bolenge ? ". 
Don't even think about the poor,dalits,etc court toh rahene do, police case bhi nahi likhti. thoda yaad kar lo body raat main jala dena, pedh se latki bodies.. kuch yaad hain? woh case chalta hain court main?
Bol do yeh sab bhi fake hain...
Aap ka logic ,patriarchy abhi shuru nahi hui hain. .. 
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  @LightYagami That's my point dude.

Jo rapes report nahi hote hai ya dowry cases or domestic violence k cases jo report nahi hote hai, uske based par kya tum  genuine innocent men ko saja toh nahi de sakte ho na ?

Jab hume pata hai actual rape, dowry and domestic violence k cases register nahi hote hai.

Aur jo hote hai woh 90% to 99% jhoote hote hai toh yeh sab law haata dena chahiye na ?

Think about it, yeh kis type ka law hua ki ? jo actual me rapist hai, domestic violence karte hai unpar report nahi hote hai toh ek kam karte hai innocent men and unke family ko saja de dete hai. 🤣🤣

Bachpan me humlog math me padhte the na find 'X' ?

Toh woh 'X' (jo actual me rapist hai, domestic violence karte ha) woh mil nahi raha toh 'Y' and 'Z' jo saja de dete. 

Isse Family structure tud jata hai dude, log shaadi nahi karenge. Bacche paida nahi karenge.

India ka population khatre me aa jayega aur tumhe nahi pata small population kitna dangerous hota hai.

Yeh ek type se genocide ho raha hai Indian population ka.

Hitler ne jo jews k sath kiya tha.

Indian law abhi pura Indian population k sath genocide kar raha hai.

India me sirf men pe saja nahi ho raha hai pura family structure pe genocide ho raha hai. 

Japan me bhi ladkiyo k sath rape hote the. Toh Japan ne bhi aise strict law la diye, jiska misuse hua and logo ne shaadi karna he chorr diya and japan ka population aaj kaisa hai tumhe pata he hoga.

Par hai kya isse Japan me rape kam hua ? nahi, No. Japan me rape aaj bhi hote hai and japan k kuch big cities k alawa, japan k rural area me 8pm k baad ladkiyo ko ghar se nikalna mana hai. kyunki chances bahut jada hai ki rape ho jayega ladkiya ka.

Always remember, the word "rape" is a very strong word. When the word "rape" is used, people become alert, angry, and come together.

But there's an even stronger word than "rape," and that is "genocide." The argument for "rape" cannot win against the the word "genocide."

Only when humans exist in the world can you debate what's right and wrong.

If it comes to the point where humans themselves are being wiped out, the word "rape" will become trivial in comparison.

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should abolish there one sided biased law ,but to many simp in this country 

should treat everyone equally not just be completely one sided 

i bet there will be a day when men stop marrying due to these trap in legal system in this country, those who really need these protections are also been punished due to false usage 

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Did people stop marrying their daughters after all those dowry related cases which were very common during 90s and later?

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Prenup agreement should be made legal in India. That will automatically solve more than 50% upcoming cases

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true bro it should be mandatory to stop these false cases extortion by women 

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This is the very reason we should let women advance in our country, in future we can live on 'आलिAali'Money

Investor Guru Investor Guru
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Yes
Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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It's better to go jail in these cases instead of giving money to beggars like these women 

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Women misuse their power and there has been a movie made by  Yash Raj film....can anybody guess the movie name? 🤪

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Daawat - e - Ishq. Thodi dekhi thi Max pe.

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Mem get fever

Women also get fever

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He should not have let her go that easily.
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Case is not that simple. There is more truths hidden in this case. Wait for dust settle. It's too early too judge only women is at fault and this man is saint. 

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LOL , everyday atleast 20 females get killed due to dowry harrasement .

is baat pe koi kuch nahin bolta hai !!!!!!!!!! SUCH Hypocricy . 

sabka rate fix hai .. IPS , doctor , engineer , peon .

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Womens have laws in their side.

What will innocent mens do to protect themselves .

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*favour 

But very sad for his death.

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1. Let go Contempt of Court

2. Abolish Collegium system

3. Judges should be selected by parliament based on seniority and landmark judgments.

Indian judges are treated like god. You speak against them, face contempt of court.

How is executive accountable to parliament and people can speak about it openly but when it comes to judiciary you face contempt?

Why judges choose the next judge? It should be with the parliament to decide.

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Recently, there was news about a person who raised slogans in his college calling for separating Northeast India. And his sister recently became a judge in Bihar.
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@saymyname78 Supreme Court ka khud ka kahena hai 99% dowry cases jhoote hote hai India me.

Phir every 15 mins one rape cases reported

But within 5 years me 75% cases jhoote nikal jate hai and 10 years tak 90% woh saare rape cases jhoote nikalte hai.

Phir kuch youtubers ko dekha hu, over acting karte hue 1 sec me India me 2 ya 4 rape hote hai.

Phir bolte hai matlab mai jab yeh video bana raha hu 100 se jada rape ho chuke honge.

Aise altu faltu chize bolte rahete hai.

Matlab seriously logo me akkal hai.

Itne jada agar female pe julm hota na toh India me female ki population kam ho jata aur jo well educated family ki ladkiya jo hai woh sab mil kar India me ek aisa places bana deti jaha only females raheti and board laga hota "men are not allowed".

2nd thing, Lesbian ki sankhiya rapidly expand kar jata last 10 to 20 years me.

Last thing, maine mazak nahi kiya, kyunki jis way se India me dekhaya jata hai ladkiyo pe julm ho raha hai. Aise me India me female nahi bachti and jo bach jati ya toh lesbian hoti, ya foreign ladko se shaadi karti ya aise places hote India me bahut saare jaha, men are not allowed ka board laga hota and govt special Z security de rahe hote. Agar durr 10 kms me bhi koi admi dekhta toh on the spot without any question headshot ka order laga hota.

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this is coming from a privileged man in a patriarchal society. How would you know about the issues of women.
I don't want to get into the statistics part , just saying reported cases are very few because most of the rapes are done by people you know. report hi nahi karte "log kya bolenge ? ". 
Don't even think about the poor,dalits,etc court toh rahene do, police case bhi nahi likhti. thoda yaad kar lo body raat main jala dena, pedh se latki bodies.. kuch yaad hain? woh case chalta hain court main?
Bol do yeh sab bhi fake hain...
Aap ka logic ,patriarchy abhi shuru nahi hui hain. .. 
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Alumni koi na de to kya punishment hai? For example someone have to pay 1 cr qnd h refuse to do then what?

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Waise alumni ya monthly ladke hi kyo de.. talak dono ka ho raha.. ladki bhi de equality case me.. to child only.. ladke ne hi kyo theka le rakha hai..ya jo kama raha wo do.. na kama raha na de.. ladki kama rahi ladki de ladke ko.. law  me equality kyo nahi hai ..

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Youtube me kuch court cases k video dekhna.

Ladki only 7 days rahi hai and annually 33 lakhs khud kamati hai and ladka apna 90% salary (1 lakh se uppar) per month ladki ko de raha hai pichle 7 years se.

Uske 7 years baad ladki ne 4 crore alimony k mangi and jo judge thi usne accept karli.

Judge bolti hai, usse koi lena dena nahi hai ki 7 years pahele shaadi hua tha and only 7 days rahi and woh khud bhi 33 lakhs kamati hai and tum 1 lakh monthly dete ho. Tab bhi tumhe 4 crore aur dene parenge.

Aise aur bhi cases k videos hai youtube me dekhna, ladki just few weeks or 1 month rahi and ladka ko apna pura ghar and sab kuch dena para + monthly almost 90% salary dena par raha hai and iske baad bhi aur dene ka mang kar rahi hai ladkiya.

Live court cases k proof video hai youtube me. Har koi dekh sakta hai.

Aur hai suicide ka, aise aur court cases k video hai youtube me, jaha ladka ne bola hai ki mai suicide kar lunga and judge ko fark bhi nahi para, paise dene parenge judge ne kaha hai.

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  @LightYagami That's my point dude.

Jo rapes report nahi hote hai ya dowry cases or domestic violence k cases jo report nahi hote hai, uske based par kya tum  genuine innocent men ko saja toh nahi de sakte ho na ?

Jab hume pata hai actual rape, dowry and domestic violence k cases register nahi hote hai.

Aur jo hote hai woh 90% to 99% jhoote hote hai toh yeh sab law haata dena chahiye na ?

Think about it, yeh kis type ka law hua ki ? jo actual me rapist hai, domestic violence karte hai unpar report nahi hote hai toh ek kam karte hai innocent men and unke family ko saja de dete hai. 🤣🤣

Bachpan me humlog math me padhte the na find 'X' ?

Toh woh 'X' (jo actual me rapist hai, domestic violence karte ha) woh mil nahi raha toh 'Y' and 'Z' jo saja de dete. 

Isse Family structure tud jata hai dude, log shaadi nahi karenge. Bacche paida nahi karenge.

India ka population khatre me aa jayega aur tumhe nahi pata small population kitna dangerous hota hai.

Yeh ek type se genocide ho raha hai Indian population ka.

Hitler ne jo jews k sath kiya tha.

Indian law abhi pura Indian population k sath genocide kar raha hai.

India me sirf men pe saja nahi ho raha hai pura family structure pe genocide ho raha hai. 

Japan me bhi ladkiyo k sath rape hote the. Toh Japan ne bhi aise strict law la diye, jiska misuse hua and logo ne shaadi karna he chorr diya and japan ka population aaj kaisa hai tumhe pata he hoga.

Par hai kya isse Japan me rape kam hua ? nahi, No. Japan me rape aaj bhi hote hai and japan k kuch big cities k alawa, japan k rural area me 8pm k baad ladkiyo ko ghar se nikalna mana hai. kyunki chances bahut jada hai ki rape ho jayega ladkiya ka.

Always remember, the word "rape" is a very strong word. When the word "rape" is used, people become alert, angry, and come together.

But there's an even stronger word than "rape," and that is "genocide." The argument for "rape" cannot win against the the word "genocide."

Only when humans exist in the world can you debate what's right and wrong.

If it comes to the point where humans themselves are being wiped out, the word "rape" will become trivial in comparison.

@morningstar96 

@sherlock 

@Aksh3213

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The 114A(Nirbhaya Amendment) Indian evidence Act was kept the same way in Sec 120, BSS keeping the option open to file fake rape cases without solid proof.



120 Presumption as to absence of consent in certain prosecution for rape

In a prosecution for rape under sub-section (2) of section 64 of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023, where sexual intercourse by the accused is proved and the question is whether it was without the consent of the woman alleged to have been raped and such woman states in her evidence before the Court that she did not consent, the Court shall presume that she did not consent.

Explanation.--In this section, "sexual intercourse" shall mean any of the acts mentioned in section 63 of the Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita, 2023.

Some new T&C's for NO CONSENT could have been added by the parliament in the new law but not, and was never made an election topic in 2024, even by opposition.

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From all these discussions I understood that genuine victim either Men/Women are not getting the justice..only the false cases/greedy police,advocate & judges are pilling the cases up to fill up their greedy.. Justice system has been become a tool of extortion instead of fair justice..some advocate/judges making some ground braking arguments/judgements..but many advocates are busy in finding loopholes in the system.so it's like a drop in the ocean.So Justice is due for many and the law is not protecting the weak but threating them.

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Inequality and in justice to men

No one bothers about men's problems.

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If not judiciary, couldn't the parliament fix the maximum alimony amount in terms of in hand salary/net worth of husband by bringing an amendment in the law itself?

Sec 85, 86 of the BNS(New IPC) kept the same provisions of 498A IPC.
Why our MPs are sitting ducks on this, when the SC has multiple times highlighted its misuse as "legal terrorism"?

Arnesh Kumar v. the State of Bihar, (2014)

Preeti Gupta & Anr v. the State of Jharkhand, (2010)

Why gender neutral laws were not made an topic of discussion in last 3-4 general elections, along with massive fund allocations for more judges, more video conferencing in all district judiciary, All India Judicial service to elect lower judiciary and magistrates, Separate jails for undertrials from convict rapists/murderers?


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I think In Society Women are getting harassed more in marriage than men (very few face difficulties).


Whereas when we look at filed cases, its 50:50 , although both have a role, the major perpetrator is a Man in half and woman in the other half of filed cases.

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Women harassed then they have law's but when men harassed their is no laws...

When man is wrong women get alumni and maintenance but when women wrong then also she get alumni and maintenance

This law made for women protection and needed at that time but now a day's who really need they don't use this and women use this as a weapon to kill men in legal way..

There is no justification for men in this country now.... All laws in favour in women... I don't say that all women are wrong but SC recently given a statment that 90% case are fake and women using for extortion....

So sad and hopeless law's...

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