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Why so much difference in smart watches? 🤔

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Budhe-Baba

Samsung costs 25k
Fitbit costs 20k
MI costs 10k
Noise costs 2.5k

Why such huge difference? 1 or 2 feature difference cannot lead to 20k difference. Can someone explain?

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Samsung is the only smart watch brand here
The others are Fitness bands (Mi, Fitbit/Google, Mi, Noise) w/ Larger displays

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Perfect answer given by @getready. Smartwatch is different from a smartband with larger screen and this can be known only when one uses both.

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mostly samsung and apple make proper watches
rest are bands pretending to be watches. different features and hardware makes up different market segments. some good some bad.
and stuff like noise, boat, generic cool name for a band imported in mass from taobao are absolute crap thanks to bad hardware and sensors. it is for people(mostly school and college kids) who can’t afford a proper smartwatch yet desires to have one, looks at the wrists of fat indian cricketers wearing one, goes on to buy one and flaunt.

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TuckingFypo wrote:

mostly samsung and apple make proper watches
rest are bands pretending to be watches. different features and hardware makes up different market segments. some good some bad.
and stuff like noise, boat, generic cool name for a band imported in mass from taobao are absolute crap thanks to bad hardware and sensors. it is for people(mostly school and college kids) who can’t afford a proper smartwatch yet desires to have one, looks at the wrists of fat indian cricketers wearing one, goes on to buy one and flaunt.

OK fine. Then why is there such vast difference between fitness bands. If we exclude Apple and Samsung?

Just adding 1/2 feature cannot increase cost from 2500 to 15000 !

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differences can include screen quality, water resistance, exercise modes, nfc, gps, barometer, compass, sp02, HR monitoring, tracking calorie intake, elevation and other niche stuff, call control, music control, integration with other hardware, ACCURACY…..etc.

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

OK fine. Then why is there such vast difference between fitness bands. If we exclude Apple and Samsung?

Just adding 1/2 feature cannot increase cost from 2500 to 15000 !

Smartwatches are equipped with proper CPUs (quad core A7 or A53 and much higher perf. ones in case of Apple) and decent amount of RAM that enables them to run a proper OS like Wear OS (Android based) or WatchOS that is capable of multitasking which expectedly takes a toll on battery life. They can be viewed as independent units whereas fitness bands are mostly a companion to your smartphones. The latter have very little RAM and storage and are equipped with very low perf. CPUs (Cortex M5/M7? ) and run a very limited RT? OS.
Smartwatches in general pack better quality sensors as well.

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

OK fine. Then why is there such vast difference between fitness bands. If we exclude Apple and Samsung?

Just adding 1/2 feature cannot increase cost from 2500 to 15000 !

Same reason as why there’s a difference between a mid range 15K smartphone and a premium 60K smartphone.

It basically drills down to the hardware, the accuracy, the performance, and the build quality. And obviously the brand factor too.

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So if i want only accurate sleep tracking and heart rate monitor during exercise, which is the cheapest watch?
Don’t want other things like waterproof, spo2, etc.

Is a 2000 watch like Noise ColorFit pulse fine?

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

So if i want only accurate sleep tracking and heart rate monitor during exercise, which is the cheapest watch?
Don’t want other things like waterproof, spo2, etc.

Is a 2000 watch like Noise ColorFit pulse fine?

Go for Honor Band 6 or other equivalent (price-wise) versions from the house of Huawei. Reportedly the most accurate out of a generally not too accurate bunch. During vigorous exercise practically nothing is accurate. Brisk walking is fine. Sleep tracking as well most of the time. Running/Jogging – gross overestimation of HR. Might consider investing in a Beurer PO30 or better for accurate and quick HR measurement.

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Related thread, might be of interest.
https://www.desidime.com/discussions/do-not-buy...

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Sensors.

Good accurate sensors from reputed companies cost more. No name Chinese companies steal IP from them or reverse engineer knockoff sensors. Other no name companies use these worthless sensors to produce worthless products.

As @tuckingfypo aptly pointed out, these are okay if you want to showoff.

But if you are serious about tracking and results, buying cheap is false economy.

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

OK fine. Then why is there such vast difference between fitness bands. If we exclude Apple and Samsung?

Just adding 1/2 feature cannot increase cost from 2500 to 15000 !

Apple charges this much by removing features and accessories bro.
If budget is reasonable and good, go with active 2
Else get oppo band for 800rs cloudtail renewed, that’s also very good for sleep tracking.
Everything else in between feels like a scam, glorified fitness bands masquerading as a smart watch.

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So this is a very do-as-you-please product category. This and bluetooth earbuds. I read somewhere that these have very minimum cost and margins are very high. That is why we see any lullu pullu coming into this market and selling their useless bluetooth earphones and watches. Boult, Poult, Noise, etc.
Highly unregulated category making fool of people.

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

So this is a very do-as-you-please product category. This and bluetooth earbuds. I read somewhere that these have very minimum cost and margins are very high. That is why we see any lullu pullu coming into this market and selling their useless bluetooth earphones and watches. Boult, Poult, Noise, etc.
Highly unregulated category making fool of people.

A lot of the profits is cornered by Qualcomm for licensing the codecs, certification etc. It seems like whenever a Western company holds the monopoly almost always the pricing is exorbitant. Ofc the OEMs are also benefited otherwise they wouldn’t be in such a rush to get rid of the venerable headphone jack.

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xxxyyyzzz wrote:

Apple charges this much by removing features and accessories bro.
If budget is reasonable and good, go with active 2
Else get oppo band for 800rs cloudtail renewed, that’s also very good for sleep tracking.
Everything else in between feels like a scam, glorified fitness bands masquerading as a smart watch.

Watch this guy’s channel mentioned by @pranavcool in another thread. It seems the honor band 6 has best sleep tracking among sub 6k smart bands but only for total sleep & not distribution of various sleep stages which is also important. For overall good sleep tracking with various stages distribution it seems like the cheapest option is fitbit inspire 2 which costs ~7k.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChNWxrTlmh4IRS...

Search for honor band 6 & fitbit inspire 2

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Please stop these companies from making a fool out of you completely. Why do you need sleep tracking to start with? Just live a healthy lifestyle and you will sleep fine. How do people wear something like a band on their wrist while sleeping anyway? The only thing these stupid gadgets can benefit us with is Sp02 and heart rate measurements. So just buy according to that.

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ithehappy wrote:

Please stop these companies from making a fool out of you completely. Why do you need sleep tracking to start with? Just live a healthy lifestyle and you will sleep fine. How do people wear something like a band on their wrist while sleeping anyway? The only thing these stupid gadgets can benefit us with is Sp02 and heart rate measurements. So just buy according to that.

Believe me these watches are really helpful if u are serious about ur health before this watch i hardly travled 2k to 3k steps every day which is not enough for your good health after i perchased this my life routine has change i did not sleep till i finish 7k steps every day so dind this watch really useful u must have one for proper walking rest i dont know much about it blush

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su_fi wrote:

Believe me these watches are really helpful if u are serious about ur health before this watch i hardly travled 2k to 3k steps every day which is not enough for your good health after i perchased this my life routine has change i did not sleep till i finish 7k steps every day so dind this watch really useful u must have one for proper walking rest i dont know much about it blush

Many people don’t even walk 1k steps in a day. smile

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guest_999 wrote:

Many people don’t even walk 1k steps in a day. smile

I recently  did my Hemoride surgery now docter told me to walk properly so that it wont come back  so i suggested everyone to buy one once u buy u will start walking everyday blush

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su_fi wrote:

I recently  did my Hemoride surgery now docter told me to walk properly so that it wont come back  so i suggested everyone to buy one once u buy u will start walking everyday blush

Well there are pedometer apps one can use in mobile as nowadays most people have mobile either in their hand or pocket while walking. smile

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guest_999 wrote:

Well there are pedometer apps one can use in mobile as nowadays most people have mobile either in their hand or pocket while walking. smile

Good idea. Tried these but sometimes they doesnt even record steps.

But I agree that watches force us to walk more.

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I am planning to buy honor band 6 ovet Mi band 6.Is it right choice?

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Budhe-Baba wrote:

Good idea. Tried these but sometimes they doesnt even record steps.

But I agree that watches force us to walk more.

Make sure to turn off any battery optimization for such apps, by default most phones have it turned on for such always active apps.

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