Hot Deal [Windows 7 Users] would you buy extended support till January 2023, do nothing.. or switch to Win10 now?

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[Windows 7 Users] would you buy extended support till January 2023, do nothing.. or switch to Win10 now?
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[Windows 7 Users] would you buy extended support till January 2023, do nothing.. or switch to Win10 now?



https://support.microsoft.com/en-GB/help/4057281/windows-7-support-will-end-on-january-14-2020
for reason/s yet not known Microsoft is redirecting the above link😠😡 to an irrelevant page when accessed from certain devices/regions.
The link/page is the same as the one Chris spoke of in the video.
Copying the address/URL text and opening it directly
does take one to the correct page.
↬⇛⇒⇥https://support.microsoft.com/en-GB/help/4057281/windows-7-support-will-end-on-january-14-2020⇤⇐⇚↫

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what to do, what not to do?😟
http://youtube.com/watch?t=73s&v=JTF9wpICQ80

what are you going to do?
(Win10 UI is just not consistent and sturdy, in comparison to Win7. Not to mention the advanced skills needed to disable most of the silent processes.)

Any way to make Windows 10 look, feel and act like Windows 7?😔
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Use win 10 LTSC 2019,it is basically win 10 pro minus edge/apps/app store/feature updates. It only gets security & driver updates.

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well i have 4gb graphics card with AMD ryzen and 12gb ram still using Win 7 … toungueout
just bcoz win 10 runs lot of processes in background and iam unable to shut them off

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guest_999 wrote:

Use win 10 LTSC 2019,it is basically win 10 pro minus edge/apps/app store/feature updates. It only gets security & driver updates.

Thanks!
Yes, heard of that. never go to test it on old (not even i3) machine though

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hackerboys wrote:

iam unable to shut them off

agree with rest of it too.
that’s exactly the point.
as for digging deep to freeze some processes
..have heard it can be done.
But i was hoping to also have my uncle’s machine run Win7 (without the risk of attacks)
and if shifting to 10, it should be simple and easy.
He is 70+ and even i don’t know what killing those processes might do.

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nlnl776633 wrote:

Thanks!
Yes, heard of that. never go to test it on old (not even i3) machine though

Should work fine on even core2duo systems provided no drivers are missing.

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hackerboys wrote:

well i have 4gb graphics card with AMD ryzen and 12gb ram still using Win 7 … toungueout
just bcoz win 10 runs lot of processes in background and iam unable to shut them off

Win 10 task manager simply separate each process which earlier were clubbed together in win 7/8 hence the drastic increase in number of processes. Anyway you can try ltsc version to see if it works fine for your usage & if it does then stick to it or may be try win 8.1 which still gets security updates & install classic shell/open shell to make it look close to win 7.

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panchabhut wrote:

switch to xubuntu

thanks, yes that’s an option.
Various Linux builds.
But will come with their own learning curve.

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guest_999 wrote:

Should work fine on even core2duo systems provided no drivers are missing.

noted, thanks.
will explore if things can be worked out

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nlnl776633 wrote:

thanks, yes that’s an option.
Various Linux builds.
But will come with their own learning curve.

xubuntu with xfce desktop is almost a clone of windows xp. the only difference is for installation of softwares. otherwise, for the end user the look and feel is just as Win XP.

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Bro, there will be no difference even windows 7 support ends. You can continue using windows 7. Just they will stop giving security updates. In worst case, some of the websites will not support with os version. There are many government sites and profit organizations still using same version. It is very stable version. There will not be any issues, you can carryon. If you have good hardware with that version, no can stop you.  smile plus1

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There is a lightweight linux operating system called “Lubuntu” for computers with very low resources. I’ve used it for quite some time in the past. Features and security updates are often provided.

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guest_999 wrote:

Win 10 task manager simply separate each process which earlier were clubbed together in win 7/8 hence the drastic increase in number of processes. Anyway you can try ltsc version to see if it works fine for your usage & if it does then stick to it or may be try win 8.1 which still gets security updates & install classic shell/open shell to make it look close to win 7.

Still overall RAM usage is higher compared to 7. In my old C2D laptop with only 3GB RAM it was 0.9GB in 7 vs 1.3-1.4GB in 10. And this after 10 employs RAM compression. This eats up precious CPU cycles. In my newer 8th gen. laptop with 8GB RAM, it was around 2.3-2.5GB. I upgraded it to 20GB. And naturally it uses 3.5-4.0GB now. Compare that to Lubuntu 19.04 which also employs zRAM and used 600MB ( let alone mimimal distros like Puppy Linux which use only 150-250MB! ) . My 7 and 10 installations are as clean as they can get. Drivers+antimalware solution. Plus not really usable on a HDD only system. So I added an NVMe SSD.
Desktop C2D is clocked much higher so maybe one can get away. Same for HDDs.

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guest_999 wrote:

Use win 10 LTSC 2019,it is basically win 10 pro minus edge/apps/app store/feature updates. It only gets security & driver updates.

Yes its a very nice alternative. I had downloaded it but lack of dark theme made me stick to the mainstream builds ultimately. Maybe another year.

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I feel Windows 7 is overrated. Just try using Win10, you will get used to it.

Although Win10 is not any better, but people moves on.

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Tejaa wrote:

I feel Windows 7 is overrated. Just try using Win10, you will get used to it.

Although Win10 is not any better, but people moves on.

thank you sir, noted.
You might have a point.
sadly i.. have a rusted mind
and too arrogantly change averse too.😔
Also, like i said, uncle too has a machine.
Though he may actually not mind Win10, if need be.
Only issue is they don’t have unlimited internet and Win10 = 😔

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jaybro wrote:

Bro, there will be no difference even windows 7 support ends. You can continue using windows 7. Just they will stop giving security updates. In worst case, some of the websites will not support with os version. There are many government sites and profit organizations still using same version. It is very stable version. There will not be any issues, you can carryon. If you have good hardware with that version, no can stop you.  smile plus1

Out of support windows versions are the favourite target of latest ransomware & malware.

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LIMBO wrote:

Yes its a very nice alternative. I had downloaded it but lack of dark theme made me stick to the mainstream builds ultimately. Maybe another year.

I think you are confusing LTSB 2016(no dark theme,based on earlier win 10 version) with LTSC 2019(based on the win 10 version which first introduced system wide dark mode & has it,friend using on laptop).

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panchabhut wrote:

xubuntu with xfce desktop is almost a clone of windows xp. the only difference is for installation of softwares. otherwise, for the end user the look and feel is just as Win XP.

it’s strange (of me) to not have tracked Linux distros much
(as i.. am someone who actually tried even Sun Solaris for 6-7 months. that was long back, and only because Sun/some contest gave us those OS disks).
Thanks for these insights, i had absolutely no idea about.

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nlnl776633 wrote:

it’s strange (of me) to not have tracked Linux distros much
(as i.. am someone who actually tried even Sun Solaris for 6-7 months. that was long back, and only because Sun/some contest gave us those OS disks).
Thanks for these insights, i had absolutely no idea about.

Linux has come a long way from the days of solaris(I also used it occasionally btw). In fact most typical tasks can be done as easily in Linux nowadays not to mention linux steam is now available allowing many major pc games to be playable on linux.

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guest_999 wrote:

Out of support windows versions are the favourite target of latest ransomware & malware.

exactly¡ even otherwise, those which don’t sandbox critical areas, will easily fall to ransomware.
@jaybro thanks for the encouragement.
But as discussed, i.. would rather contemplate purchasing extended support (if under 4-5000INR) or totally taking the machine off the grid, no flash media use… than to have such a situation where the open internet, forums like Tom’s hardware too don’t discuss such issues in future.
(when stuck.. i rely a lot on finding others with similar issues, by using such forums)

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guest_999 wrote:

I think you are confusing LTSB 2016(no dark theme,based on earlier win 10 version) with LTSC 2019(based on the win 10 version which first introduced system wide dark mode & has it,friend using on laptop).

Yes. You are right.

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guest_999 wrote:

Linux has come a long way from the days of solaris(I also used it occasionally btw). In fact most typical tasks can be done as easily in Linux nowadays not to mention linux steam is now available allowing many major pc games to be playable on linux.

@guest_999 @ssganesh @Limbo @panchabhut
thanks.
i really didn’t know that transitioning could really be that simple.
I was on the verge of exploring options to get Compaq/HP, Toshiba to help me.. to get the Win 7 keys that would get extended support till January 2023.
By myself, in Bharat, i couldn’t figure out a way to directly purchase Extended Support from Microsoft or Digitalriver.

On a side note: i only stopped using Lotus Smartsuite.. back when some course at NIIT had the compulsion to learn MS-Office.
Even then, around the Y2K hype, i was still using Lotus Notes at work (not Outlook/Outlook express)
So it isn’t about being a fanboy.
Just convenience.

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nlnl776633 wrote:

@guest_999 @ssganesh @Limbo @panchabhut
thanks.
i really didn’t know that transitioning could really be that simple.
I was on the verge of exploring options to get Compaq/HP, Toshiba to help me.. to get the Win 7 keys that would get extended support till January 2023.
By myself, in Bharat, i couldn’t figure out a way to directly purchase Extended Support from Microsoft or Digitalriver.

On a side note: i only stopped using Lotus Smartsuite.. back when some course at NIIT had the compulsion to learn MS-Office.
Even then, around the Y2K hype, i was still using Lotus Notes at work (not Outlook/Outlook express)
So it isn’t about being a fanboy.
Just convenience.

There are still pain points in Linux. Mostly in mimimal ones but they were the ones that most interested me. Things one takes for granted in Windows like exFAT, MTP for Android, creating a Hotspot from LAN or Wifi to name a few. Again the full fat ones shouldn’t have these issues. But latest Ubuntu is only a little less in using RAM than W10. Ubuntu 17.10 used 1.1GB. It was shocking because my previous encounter 12.04 used only 250MB or thereabouts. In Lubuntu 19.04 the latest Mega app couldn’t be installed as some dependencies were missing. But it didn’t offer to install them on its own. I didn’t check in the repository though. On Linux only 64-bit Chromium builds are supported.

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would tread with caution now. @limbo
as such, now i hardly want to be an ‘early adopter’ on most things tech.
and am not ashamed to learn from others’ experience/s.
(read: extensively scanning the net for such hurdles, issues as you mentioned.. and whether there is any skirting possible).

i can still deal with a naked Win 7 Ultimate (legal OEM upgrade from HP) with just a normal antjvirus, since i never use outside disks and restrict access for flash media (pen drives)

for those even older than i am, i’m in bit of a spot.
though my father has been using Win10 for routine minimal work for a while now.
only surprises were when limited internet packs suddenly depleted.
i think those auto updates were fixed by someone on his two laptops.

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windows 10 is fine and i have installed insider privew build and set to RTM update.

and have disabled services as Black viper configuration to barebones.

not a single byte of data is wasted.

and on newer systems we can’t even install win 7, Even if we can it’s too complicated. not for everyone.

those laptops who came at time of win 7 should be kept on win 7 till laptop is alive.

the moment you install 10 it will make it die faster due to excess heating.

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Win 8.1 is an acceptable option,use it with classic shell/open shell to give it a win 7 like look plus start menu & it is good to go.

@nlnl776633 individuals can’t purchase win 7 extended support,only enterprises can(that too big ones,most small ones won’t be able to afford the costs).

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Why buy extended support for outdated OS. Pirate the hell out of Win 10.

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