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I’m planning to purchase 500GB hard disk for my PC. Pls suggest a good brand in HDD. Can we claim warranty for hard disk for online purchase?

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Why hdd? Buy ssd for small storage. In hdd get higher capacity ones. WD green are what most users have and cheap

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nasrinivas wrote:

Pls suggest a good model SSD

Seagate, Western Digital, Samsung, Toshiba are pretty good brands for HDDs.

You can get WD Blue 1TB 7200 RPM class for 3k.
https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-WD10EZEX-...
https://www.amazon.in/Seagate-BarraCuda-ST1000D...
https://www.amazon.in/Toshiba-Desktop-7200rpm-I...

SSD are expensive than HDD and NVMe are even more expensive but they are the fastest. If you have only use HDD all your life then a regular SSD will work fine for you. You will notice considerable boost in seed with regular SSDs. Here are some 240 GB SSD. 500 GB SSD will cost you almost double of 240 GB SSD.

Western Digital 240GB SSD @ 2650 rs.
https://www.amazon.in/Western-Digital-WDS240G1G...

Seagate Maxtor Z1 240GB SSD @ 2300 rs.
https://www.amazon.in/Seagate-Maxtor-240GB-Inte...

Samsung 860 EVO Series 250GB M.2 SSD @ 4000 rs
https://www.amazon.in/Samsung-860-EVO-Internal-...

Crucial BX500 240GB SSD @ 2370 rs
https://www.amazon.in/Crucial-BX500-240GB-2-5-I...

ADATA Ultimate SU650 240GB 3D NAND Solid State Drive @ 2624 rs
https://www.amazon.in/ADATA-240GB-Ultimate-SU65...

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nasrinivas wrote:

I’m planning to purchase 500GB hard disk for my PC. Pls suggest a good brand in HDD. Can we claim warranty for hard disk for online purchase?

all major brands are reliable.
some technologies or designs have inherent flaws or limitations though.
so making an informed choice is wiser.

if purchased from authorised partners or from sister company (sellers) of marketplace portal itself, then claiming warranty won’t be an issue.

for products that show up in other region of the brand, sometimes local offices of the brand act pricey (bully us by stating we won’t service items showing as North America or South East Asia.)
these issues too are often sorted by the right people in the service departments of brand or sellers help in it too.

back in 2000s even the authorised company of Seagate Technologies would put in a request to reset the region. it was done in a day or so and then they would generate the RMA.

speaking of Seagate, none of the early Barracudas we had (these are rated 10000rpm) ever developed a snag due to the high inner spindle speeds.
but even slight jerks or erratic power whilst in operation at THAT speed was a known cause for the head coming in physical contact with the platter.

we have had good service life from original Hitachis (used before the division was shifted), Verbatims, Micron brands, Kingston, Transcend (before it became ‡puke‡) and Seagate too.



people here are upselling/ suggesting flash drives/ solid state media.

hope you realise
that whilst those may not have mechanical parts, theoretically they have finite read write cycles and things DO go wrong in that department too.

the MTBF (mean time betwixt failure)/ MTTR of magnetic drives have been exceptionally good for well over a decade now.
the data doesn’t get corrupted just because it is saved the old fashioned way (earth’s gravity theoretically doesn’t impact these drives even if they idle or remain unused for a couple of decade.)

unless other parts and compatible system parameters match up
AND
you are on very critical things where big data handling otherwise slows down due to mechanical drives,
solid state drives are an overkill (in my not so humble view).
(primarily because the “cost per MB” still is artificially kept high)

besides slight (18-20% faster for routine desktop applications, office suites may not even get noticed) improvements for say the boot up times and native data calls on the drive (say video editing, big RDBMS packages), most others won’t find that radical a difference.


still if you really have a need or can (over)spend on them, fair game¡
if you wish, you may consult
with the likes of
@anshuman.panda0106371
@aroranavneet42394
@tusharsethi90935
@Dr.Ninad
@alientechy22 (since he might keep abreast🤱 with latest news or be tracking prices of SSDs)
@HyderabadiAppleBuff @cybertechie sir
or others.

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khandelwal800 wrote:

all major brands are reliable.
some technologies or designs have inherent flaws or limitations though.
so making an informed choice is wiser.

if purchased from authorised partners or from sister company (sellers) of marketplace portal itself, then claiming warranty won’t be an issue.

for products that show up in other region of the brand, sometimes local offices of the brand act pricey (bully us by stating we won’t service items showing as North America or South East Asia.)
these issues too are often sorted by the right people in the service departments of brand or sellers help in it too.

back in 2000s even the authorised company of Seagate Technologies would put in a request to reset the region. it was done in a day or so and then they would generate the RMA.

speaking of Seagate, none of the early Barracudas we had (these are rated 10000rpm) ever developed a snag due to the high inner spindle speeds.
but even slight jerks or erratic power whilst in operation at THAT speed was a known cause for the head coming in physical contact with the platter.

we have had good service life from original Hitachis (used before the division was shifted), Verbatims, Micron brands, Kingston, Transcend (before it became ‡puke‡) and Seagate too.



people here are upselling/ suggesting flash drives/ solid state media.

hope you realise
that whilst those may not have mechanical parts, theoretically they have finite read write cycles and things DO go wrong in that department too.

the MTBF (mean time betwixt failure)/ MTTR of magnetic drives have been exceptionally good for well over a decade now.
the data doesn’t get corrupted just because it is saved the old fashioned way (earth’s gravity theoretically doesn’t impact these drives even if they idle or remain unused for a couple of decade.)

unless other parts and compatible system parameters match up
AND
you are on very critical things where big data handling otherwise slows down due to mechanical drives,
solid state drives are an overkill (in my not so humble view).
(primarily because the “cost per MB” still is artificially kept high)

besides slight (18-20% faster for routine desktop applications, office suites may not even get noticed) improvements for say the boot up times and native data calls on the drive (say video editing, big RDBMS packages), most others won’t find that radical a difference.


still if you really have a need or can (over)spend on them, fair game¡
if you wish, you may consult
with the likes of
@anshuman.panda0106371
@aroranavneet42394
@tusharsethi90935
@Dr.Ninad
@alientechy22 (since he might keep abreast🤱 with latest news or be tracking prices of SSDs)
@HyderabadiAppleBuff @cybertechie sir
or others.

For the OS and running apps HDD is no longer viable. Unless its a lite weight Linux distro that can fit in RAM. Frustratingly slow. NVMe SSDs are overkill for most purposes. I do have one. But it was on sale for a price lower than top SATA SSDs so… Endurance is not a concern. At all. 3D TLC has greater endurance than planar 15nm MLC. Random I/O is a minimum 15-20x higher than even the fastest 15k RPM SCSI HDDs. Its this parameter that makes the greatest difference.
But I haven’t had the opportunity to use a modern desktop HDD as the system drive. Still their random R/W is abysmal. Only Sequential R/W has improved over the years.
I can’t say about desktop Toshiba hard drives but I found the external ones to be consistently much faster than their WD counterparts.

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My friend bought Kingston 240gb hard drive 2 years back. Now he had faced io error and can’t retrieve the data. By his Luck he got the replacement with new one.. for this reason i have choosed HDD.

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nasrinivas wrote:

My friend bought Kingston 240gb hard drive 2 years back. Now he had faced io error and can’t retrieve the data. By his Luck he got the replacement with new one.. for this reason i have choosed HDD.

Other than long term cold storage SSDs are far more reliable than HDDs. Annual failure rates are estimated to be an order of magnitude lower than HDDs. Kingston makes some spectacularly crappy SSDs. Stick to top tier manufacturers like Samsung, WD, Intel, Crucial etc. Actually Samsung isn’t very cost effective. Adata, Silicon Power, Corsair offer far better value in case of NVMe ones. For SATA Crucial MX500, budget NVMe Intel 660p (QLC NVMe) and high-end Adata XPG SX8200 Pro/SP P34A80. WD Black SN750? (new gen. ) for laptops due to excellent power efficiency. Plus SSDs usually have longer 3-5 years warranty period as well.

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SSD is for laptop / pc use ? can i use the SSD as internal drive in my PC?

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nasrinivas wrote:

SSD is for laptop / pc use ? can i use the SSD as internal drive in my PC?

Install os and programs in SSD and for storage, HDD is good.

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nasrinivas wrote:

My friend bought Kingston 240gb hard drive 2 years back. Now he had faced io error and can’t retrieve the data. By his Luck he got the replacement with new one.. for this reason i have choosed HDD.

update thread with what you decided on and finally what you got.

also let some local person, with proper knowledge, see your machine

as it might be possible to play between different form factors or get better compatible RAMs or whatever might be specific to your rig.

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When you are planning to replace HDD with SSD, buy from online stores typically amazon, so that you can return, if it doesnt suite to your PC/Laptop.

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nasrinivas wrote:

My friend bought Kingston 240gb hard drive 2 years back. Now he had faced io error and can’t retrieve the data. By his Luck he got the replacement with new one.. for this reason i have choosed HDD.

No ssd or hdd is 100% failure proof,always keep a backup of your important data in another place(hdd,ssd or better online storage like google drive/onedrive) unless you want to rely on your luck.

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Bcoz of hdfc card order i selected TataCliq. Now I’m going to place the order through Amazon

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nasrinivas wrote:

Bcoz of hdfc card order i selected TataCliq. Now I’m going to place the order through Amazon

If your mobo has an NVMe x4 slot SP P34A80 is available for just Rs 5.5k. Rivals top offerings from Samsung for less than half https://www.onlyssd.com/buy/silicon-power-512gb...
Check prices on OnlySSD. I had purchased it for 1k extra a few months back.

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khandelwal800 wrote:

all major brands are reliable.
some technologies or designs have inherent flaws or limitations though.
so making an informed choice is wiser.

if purchased from authorised partners or from sister company (sellers) of marketplace portal itself, then claiming warranty won’t be an issue.

for products that show up in other region of the brand, sometimes local offices of the brand act pricey (bully us by stating we won’t service items showing as North America or South East Asia.)
these issues too are often sorted by the right people in the service departments of brand or sellers help in it too.

back in 2000s even the authorised company of Seagate Technologies would put in a request to reset the region. it was done in a day or so and then they would generate the RMA.

speaking of Seagate, none of the early Barracudas we had (these are rated 10000rpm) ever developed a snag due to the high inner spindle speeds.
but even slight jerks or erratic power whilst in operation at THAT speed was a known cause for the head coming in physical contact with the platter.

we have had good service life from original Hitachis (used before the division was shifted), Verbatims, Micron brands, Kingston, Transcend (before it became ‡puke‡) and Seagate too.



people here are upselling/ suggesting flash drives/ solid state media.

hope you realise
that whilst those may not have mechanical parts, theoretically they have finite read write cycles and things DO go wrong in that department too.

the MTBF (mean time betwixt failure)/ MTTR of magnetic drives have been exceptionally good for well over a decade now.
the data doesn’t get corrupted just because it is saved the old fashioned way (earth’s gravity theoretically doesn’t impact these drives even if they idle or remain unused for a couple of decade.)

unless other parts and compatible system parameters match up
AND
you are on very critical things where big data handling otherwise slows down due to mechanical drives,
solid state drives are an overkill (in my not so humble view).
(primarily because the “cost per MB” still is artificially kept high)

besides slight (18-20% faster for routine desktop applications, office suites may not even get noticed) improvements for say the boot up times and native data calls on the drive (say video editing, big RDBMS packages), most others won’t find that radical a difference.


still if you really have a need or can (over)spend on them, fair game¡
if you wish, you may consult
with the likes of
@anshuman.panda0106371
@aroranavneet42394
@tusharsethi90935
@Dr.Ninad
@alientechy22 (since he might keep abreast🤱 with latest news or be tracking prices of SSDs)
@HyderabadiAppleBuff @cybertechie sir
or others.

SSD will last longer than mechanical HDD. What shall happen if you exhaust the rw cycle? The SSD will become read only. You can still read from it.
Hitachi was a legend. I still have a 250GB mechanical HDD, since 2008. It still works. WD, Toshiba HDDs came with Dells have bitten the dust in 7-8 years.

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