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Firstly i needed to book 4 tickets For flight Indigo
All bookings m doing in 3 or 4 months advance
I booked one by one price was 3288Rs per ticket
As soon as i booked 2 tickets the price increased to 4308Rs per ticket direct Rs 1000 increase
After that again I needed to book 4 tickets For Flight Jet Airways
I booked one by one price was 3895Rs per ticket
As soon as i booked 2 tickets the price increased to 4950Rs per ticket direct 1000 increase
Same with GOair also
Now i m stuck bought gc and more than 8 tickets pending to be booked https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_confused.gif

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i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.

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@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Bhaiya Any suggestion what can i do now https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif

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@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Never knew this…(not completely)
i always use incognito.

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I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will fluctuate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the next range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya

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@Randomactz wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Bhaiya Any suggestion what can i do now https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif


they do it as to earn more profit .
still you can skip by using same way as you do in ebay . and also booking one after one also cause this , so books each ticket after some time with diff credentials .
as there are limited seats in flight , so they sell them cheap at starting and when their system think only few left or booking is going on very fast then it increase the price .

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@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?

edit: Oops, You cannot give karma again right now

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@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Apart from this, their pricing is also in such a manner that

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…

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@hese wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?


well i dont travel through air much. but when i do. . i use incognito mode and clear my cookies.

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@cm4444 wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Apart from this, their pricing is also in such a manner that

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…


yes correct. but every price range will not contain same proportion of seats.

the more the price..the more no of seats are allocated to such price

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@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@cm4444 wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Apart from this, their pricing is also in such a manner that

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…


yes correct. but every price range will not contain same proportion of seats.

the more the price..the more no of seats are allocated to such price


So if i clear cookies now then maybe the price reduces https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif

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@Randomactz wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@cm4444 wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Apart from this, their pricing is also in such a manner that

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…


yes correct. but every price range will not contain same proportion of seats.

the more the price..the more no of seats are allocated to such price


So if i clear cookies now then maybe the price reduces https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif

i think in your case,
it is not theproblem of cookies.

i think the seats allocated to such price are filled up.so it went to the next price range.

note: this is jus my assumption.

based on my exp. . the lowest price will be alloted omly to 8-15 seats in an airplane of 200 seats(approx)

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@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.

no you are wrong this time sir as fare is dynamic not cookies based as no. of booking increases fare also rises

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That’s how the dynamic pricing works with airlines. The price will come down if they don’t have any new booking in coming days. Just like the surge pricing with Uber https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_biggrin.gif

keep a track of the bookings you made, days, airway etc, may be we can get better view about their algorithm.

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@Randomactz Simple, clear cache, change IP, (or change pc) dnt search samething, same place, directly book it…. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

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Now irctc also playing same game…. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

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Now irctc also playing same game…. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif


yeah 3000 for 3rd ac! https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_cry.gif https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_cry.gif https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_cry.gif

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@cm4444 wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

i think you missed one discussion over it. Its common, hotels also do this. Sometimes they track this via Cookies.


Apart from this, their pricing is also in such a manner that

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…


Too much Complex strategy.

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@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@hese wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?


well i dont travel through air much. but when i do. . i use incognito mode and clear my cookies.


Tracking cookies and using incognito mode… Does that make sense?? It would mean prices would become system/user specific (highly locale) rather than depending on the seat availability and other generic parameters which one might expect to be dependent on the concerned airline.
What I mean to say a user booking same flight tickets from a different IP/system shall find a different price?? Just curious

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@G@urav wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@hese wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?


well i dont travel through air much. but when i do. . i use incognito mode and clear my cookies.


Tracking cookies and using incognito mode… Does that make sense?? It would mean prices would become system/user specific (highly locale) rather than depending on the seat availability and other generic parameters which one might expect to be dependent on the concerned airline.
What I mean to say a user booking same flight tickets from a different IP/system shall find a different price?? Just curious


i cannot tell that this is correct.but upto some extent it is correct.
and i am generalising to all but not specifically to airlines booking.

yes they do track the cookies and they will come to know our paying capacity with it.and yes the price changes sometimes based on our cookie data. .

step outside and think beyond ecommerce sites in which price is same for everyone.

and yes clearing cookies will help u.and y do u think that all the website want to read our cookie data.

note: i may be wrong but i am sure part of it is correct.

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A Person story:

On Monday evening I was buying a return flight to Ireland for this weekend on behalf of a friend. The price was £187, a bit steep, so I double-checked this was exactly what he wanted, that the flight times were acceptable, flipped in and out ofother airline websites, and so on. But when I went back into the site – only minutes later – the price had changed to £212.

Now I know all about the “dynamic pricing” model used by airlines, but this seemed odd. Did the cookies on my computer effectively tell the website that I’d been fiddling around making up my mind?

Would, perversely, a consumer be more likely to buy at the higher price because they would think the seats are selling out fast?

I went back to the beginning. Sure enough, the site remembered my details, knew the destination I was looking for, and, once again, gave me £212. But then I deleted cookies and removed the browsing history. Starting the booking process again, the website no longer knew my details and did not pre-populate any of the information fields. And the price of the flight, a few seconds later? It was back to £187

I was flabbergasted. I spoke to the airline, and it said it was flabbergasted, too. Its booking system did not use cookies in this way, it insisted.

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@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@G@urav wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@hese wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?


well i dont travel through air much. but when i do. . i use incognito mode and clear my cookies.


Tracking cookies and using incognito mode… Does that make sense?? It would mean prices would become system/user specific (highly locale) rather than depending on the seat availability and other generic parameters which one might expect to be dependent on the concerned airline.
What I mean to say a user booking same flight tickets from a different IP/system shall find a different price?? Just curious


i cannot tell that this is correct.but upto some extent it is correct.
and i am generalising to all but not specifically to airlines booking.

yes they do track the cookies and they will come to know our paying capacity with it.and yes the price changes sometimes based on our cookie data. .

step outside and think beyond ecommerce sites in which price is same for everyone.

and yes clearing cookies will help u.and y do u think that all the website want to read our cookie data.

note: i may be wrong but i am sure part of it is correct.


They might want to read our cookies may be too customise the experience for one and to speculate the group behavior, what I mean to say is your search history shouldn’t impact your price levels only but to a level give an indication of popularity of the route and take decision based on that.

What I mean is price levels would not be impacted by your own cookies but that of all the customers.(as I highly doubt such locale nature of price levels based on system /IP)
(then again I have no concrete information hence wanted to know)

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@G@urav wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@G@urav wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

@hese wrote:

@Itachi Uchiha wrote:

I did the audit of airlines company.
yes the price will flucluate.
each price range will be given only few seats.

when those set of seats are filledup. it will automatically go to the nexr range of price.

better to use icongnito mode while booking and clear all the cookies.

seeya


Thats Great Info! KG!

So always use Incognito and different logins?


well i dont travel through air much. but when i do. . i use incognito mode and clear my cookies.


Tracking cookies and using incognito mode… Does that make sense?? It would mean prices would become system/user specific (highly locale) rather than depending on the seat availability and other generic parameters which one might expect to be dependent on the concerned airline.
What I mean to say a user booking same flight tickets from a different IP/system shall find a different price?? Just curious


i cannot tell that this is correct.but upto some extent it is correct.
and i am generalising to all but not specifically to airlines booking.

yes they do track the cookies and they will come to know our paying capacity with it.and yes the price changes sometimes based on our cookie data. .

step outside and think beyond ecommerce sites in which price is same for everyone.

and yes clearing cookies will help u.and y do u think that all the website want to read our cookie data.

note: i may be wrong but i am sure part of it is correct.


They might want to read our cookies may be too customise the experience for one and to speculate the group behavior, what I mean to say is your search history shouldn’t impact your price levels only but to a level give an indication of popularity of the route and take decision based on that.

What I mean is price levels would not be impacted by your own cookies but that of all the customers.(as I highly doubt such locale nature of price levels based on system /IP)
(then again I have no concrete information hence wanted to know)


well i told cookies cookies everywhere. but i actually meant all the data which is in ur browser. . like history etc. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif

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I fly quite a lot and I have witnessed dynamic pricing many times . as others have mentioned above , Airlines dynamic prices has nothing to do with cookies. Airlines allocates seats at different price points . my statergy to book air tickets are quite simple. I wait for indigo and other carriers to announce sales. Indigo keeps bringing in discounted ticket sales at least one in a week or two . during these sales, they allocate seats on lowest price points. The above method works always wieks flights between major airports such Delhi Chennai Bangalore etc . however, it is hard to get discount on certain sectors such as Del- Cochin etc where competition is minimal.

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One of my friend used to fly to Dubai every month when I was at college. His strategy was very simple, bunk few classes and book tickets on Wednesday evening flight at that last moment, he always got ticket at cheap rates.

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@cm4444 wrote:

they will sell first 20 tickets at this price
next 20 tickets at another price
next 20 tickets at another higher price…
like this…


This is exactly why the prices vary. Seems like people here are not aware about the fare classes. I thought at least a fellow frequent traveler like @cybertechie bro would mention the correct term. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif

Anyway, I strongly recommend all of you to read this article: http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/3801394/dec...

As for why tickets are sometimes cheaper at the last minute, if there’s a cancellation of a booking at a lower fare class, most airlines will gladly make the seat(s) available at that fare class. Some airlines, however, utilize the holiday rush periods to sell even lower “fare class” seats at higher prices.

I have posted about this somewhere earlier (maybe not on DD), but I can’t seem to find that post. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

Edit at 6:48pm: Just remembered that I guided a dimer via PM in detail about the “fare classes”.

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Tnx for info. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif

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@poorsoul wrote:

One of my friend used to fly to Dubai every month when I was at college. His strategy was very simple, bunk few classes and book tickets on Wednesday evening flight at that last moment, he always got ticket at cheap rates.


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I did the same for Train and Bus https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_lol.gif

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