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How do you order online with complete safety?

Since many people are buying groceries online how do we keep ourselves away from the virus because I have heard that corona can also stay in objects like packaging, steel etc…

In a nutshell I want to ask that what’s your process of contaminating the virus from either either groceries or packaging.

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Most times the things that I order online are non-perishable goods. Once the delivery executive comes I open up the side balcony door of our home and ask him to place everything in a large cardboard box I arranged there (arranged multiple of them). I ask him to place the bill in it too and won’t touch anything. I will leave all the goods there for 3 days hoping that the outside heat (around 40 degrees in Hyderabad) will kill the virus in 3 days.

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Just put the packets in the balcony or any other place where your family members don,t go and use after a certain period of time like 4,6,12 hours as direction are given by EXPERTS IF YOU ARE MORE CONSCIOUS THEN YOU CAN USE GLOVES OR POLYTHENE TO COVER YOUR HANDS AT THE TIME OF TAKING THE PARCELS.

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raghupro wrote:

Most times the things that I order online are non-perishable goods. Once the delivery executive comes I open up the side balcony door of our home and ask him to place everything in a large cardboard box I arranged there (arranged multiple of them). I ask him to place the bill in it too and won’t touch anything. I will leave all the goods there for 3 days hoping that the outside heat (around 40 degrees in Hyderabad) will kill the virus in 3 days.

What about vegetables & fruit because we can’t keep them out for 1-2 days?

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SHARKTANK wrote:

What about vegetables & fruit because we can’t keep them out for 1-2 days?

You can put wet clothe on them keep them in shed

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SHARKTANK wrote:

What about vegetables & fruit because we can’t keep them out for 1-2 days?

A few veggies sustain for 3 days. Stuff like capsicum, brinjal etc. Other stuff we put it in a bucket with hot water (not boiling hot) along with cooking soda (not even sure if that helps), wait for 30 minutes and then keep them in fridge.

For milk, we placed a small steel bucket at the door in which the milk packets are put each morning. Then we add hot water (again not boiling) into the bucket and leave or for an hour. After that we open the packets, pour milk into a bowl, wash hands and boil milk. Happens every day sad

News paper – dad keeps it on a shelf outside and washes his hands everyday. He reads it only after 2 days so 2 days old newspaper everyday. Important news come online anyways so nothing to be missed.

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SHARKTANK wrote:

What about vegetables & fruit because we can’t keep them out for 1-2 days?

Clean it with salted water and after that you can use vegetables and fruits

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popeyethedimer wrote:

Just put the packets in the balcony or any other place where your family members don,t go and use after a certain period of time like 4,6,12 hours as direction are given by EXPERTS IF YOU ARE MORE CONSCIOUS THEN YOU CAN USE GLOVES OR POLYTHENE TO COVER YOUR HANDS AT THE TIME OF TAKING THE PARCELS.

But is it true or just a myth that virus survive on these objects since we don’t have enough Proof. Even on internet I can see that it supports both the theories. I my knowledge a virus needs a living organisms to survive on. But I am no expert.

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SHARKTANK wrote:

But is it true or just a myth that virus survive on these objects since we don’t have enough Proof. Even on internet I can see that it supports both the theories. I my knowledge a virus needs a living organisms to survive on. But I am no expert.

virus do need living organism to survive but it can survive without it for a period of time
and that is when we need to be careful

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So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

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guest_999 wrote:

So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

via WHO website
“Yes. The likelihood of an infected person contaminating commercial goods is low and the risk of catching the virus that causes COVID-19 from a package that has been moved, travelled, and exposed to different conditions and temperature is also low. "
note its low risk and not completely safe
source-https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-co...

and yes coronavirus is extremely difficult(again not 100% guaranteed) to survive on newspaper due to its porous nature likewise it can survive on non porous surfaces such as steel, plastic etc. for few hrs
source-https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/arti...

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guest_999 wrote:

So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

1.There is no credible evidence of Corona spreading through online delivery etc but Likewise there is no credible source to disapprove this theory.

2.It can easily spread through respiratory sources your hands can be the medium if it has spit or droplets .

3.Dont underestimate this virus.

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guest_999 wrote:

So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

Thanks bro for clearing doubts

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popeyethedimer wrote:

Thanks bro for clearing doubts

And also dont worry about vegetables as indian cooking style requires good boiling and heating so no chance of spreading like that.
Only during purchasing you should take care.

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guest_999 wrote:

So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

If the Chinese are serious about this then so should be you.
You can also say that there is no credible evidence of anything about this virus, everything is just a speculation!

The newspaper analogy is hilarious!
So you are saying something like this: The gap between protons+neutrons (nucleons) and the electrons is of the order of 10^11 (taking into account the size of the atom)…i.e. most of the atom is empty space!
Thus solid object has no meaning… right?
You are thinking as if someone is doing Rutherford experiment with the newspaper : Shooting the virus and thinking that most of the virus is getting past the newspaper and only few are getting stuck…no rebound of course! 😛😛😛😛
Bad Theory!

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Janhit me jaari!😛

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raghupro wrote:

A few veggies sustain for 3 days. Stuff like capsicum, brinjal etc. Other stuff we put it in a bucket with hot water (not boiling hot) along with cooking soda (not even sure if that helps), wait for 30 minutes and then keep them in fridge.

For milk, we placed a small steel bucket at the door in which the milk packets are put each morning. Then we add hot water (again not boiling) into the bucket and leave or for an hour. After that we open the packets, pour milk into a bowl, wash hands and boil milk. Happens every day sad

News paper – dad keeps it on a shelf outside and washes his hands everyday. He reads it only after 2 days so 2 days old newspaper everyday. Important news come online anyways so nothing to be missed.


https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/614010/original/iMarkup_20200424_115653.jpg?1587709913Like this bro?

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@SHARKTANK Yup. This is what we have been doing bro. Again, not sure if this scientifically helps but that’s the best we could do as veggies were rotting if we leave them out for 3 days.

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guest_999 wrote:

So much misinfo here, there is no credible evidence of corona virus infection spreading through such methods like online delivery of goods(of course there will always be some exceptions but general rule is this only). As for newspaper that is even more ridiculous, do you know that for a virus a newspaper is like a mesh with each hole thousands of times larger than itself so you tell me how can coronavirus gets stuck on newspaper surface because it is surface to your/human eyes but for a virus it is not a surface.

Only thing you need to do is wash your hands after handling any external object, that’s it. Also just in case some don’t know this, coronavirus is a respiratory virus so it does not spread by skin meaning even if your hands touched a coronavirus infected item, as long as your hands do not touch your face/nose/mouth/eyes you will not be infected.
@SHARKTANK @raghupro @popeyethedimer @SARDARKHAN

Well, if you feel this is mis-information and you have the right information then how about correcting what’s being shared here with the correct info?

Virus needs a biological medium to survive longer and to multiply but it can survive on any surface but the survival duration varies by medium, heat, humidity and a ton of other factors. It can survive for as low as few minutes to as high as few days if conditions permit. In temperatures varying between 5 degrees and 10 degrees it is able to survive up to 9 days on metal surfaces (might explain the terrible state New York is in). One of the article: https://www.livescience.com/how-long-coronaviru...

And who said virus gets stuck in a newspaper microscopic holes? A virus can latch on to a surface and doesn’t need to be encompasses between structures. It takes up to a day for virus to disintegrate on cardboards. Soruce: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/...

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Amolverma.6 wrote:

1.There is no credible evidence of Corona spreading through online delivery etc but Likewise there is no credible source to disapprove this theory.

2.It can easily spread through respiratory sources your hands can be the medium if it has spit or droplets .

3.Dont underestimate this virus.

1. By this logic most of the controversial topics can be considered valid because even in Maths there are fields in which this logic can be applied. It is your choice to be extra careful but my intention was to say it is not the usual/standard.

2. I didn’t say otherwise either. Irrespective of everything else as long as your hands don’t come in contact with your face/eyes/nose/mouth then coronavirus cannot infect you(assuming you to be the only source of virus).

3. I never suggested otherwise but like everything there is also overestimation wherever there is underestimation.

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If the Chinese are serious about this then so should be you.
You can also say that there is no credible evidence of anything about this virus, everything is just a speculation!

The newspaper analogy is hilarious!
So you are saying something like this: The gap between protons+neutrons (nucleons) and the electrons is of the order of 10^11 (taking into account the size of the atom)…i.e. most of the atom is empty space!
Thus solid object has no meaning… right?
You are thinking as if someone is doing Rutherford experiment with the newspaper : Shooting the virus and thinking that most of the virus is getting past the newspaper and only few are getting stuck…no rebound of course! 😛😛😛😛
Bad Theory!

I don’t know how much you know about Modern Physics but what you understood from my analogy is completely wrong. I am not talking about things at atomic scale but microscopic surface variations.

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raghupro wrote:

Well, if you feel this is mis-information and you have the right information then how about correcting what’s being shared here with the correct info?

Virus needs a biological medium to survive longer and to multiply but it can survive on any surface but the survival duration varies by medium, heat, humidity and a ton of other factors. It can survive for as low as few minutes to as high as few days if conditions permit. In temperatures varying between 5 degrees and 10 degrees it is able to survive up to 9 days on metal surfaces (might explain the terrible state New York is in). One of the article: https://www.livescience.com/how-long-coronaviru...

And who said virus gets stuck in a newspaper microscopic holes? A virus can latch on to a surface and doesn’t need to be encompasses between structures. It takes up to a day for virus to disintegrate on cardboards. Soruce: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/...

I simply mentioned the reasonable precautions & also mentioned there are exceptions for everything too. If you are washing your hands after touching/handling external objects like newspaper then it is within reason to assume you won’t be infected. Similarly if you are reading 2 days old newspaper then also it is within reason to assume you won’t be infected. However if you are not washing your hands regularly after touching external objects then it doesn’t matter whether you read 2 days old newspaper or 5 days old newspaper, it is reasonable to assume that you have high chances of being infected. I hope you get my point.

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I mainly order veggies n fruits once I got it I will thoroughly rinse with salt water then only consume

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guest_999 wrote:

I don’t know how much you know about Modern Physics but what you understood from my analogy is completely wrong. I am not talking about things at atomic scale but microscopic surface variations.

The atomic theory was just a hint to your thinking…I’m also talking about “your” microscopic surface variations with “Rutherford experiment”!😛

PS. I’m not Physics student, but I did watch+listen a lot of lecture of Richard Feynman and other Physicists….Just for “Time_pass”!😛

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guest_999 wrote:

I simply mentioned the reasonable precautions & also mentioned there are exceptions for everything too. If you are washing your hands after touching/handling external objects like newspaper then it is within reason to assume you won’t be infected. Similarly if you are reading 2 days old newspaper then also it is within reason to assume you won’t be infected. However if you are not washing your hands regularly after touching external objects then it doesn’t matter whether you read 2 days old newspaper or 5 days old newspaper, it is reasonable to assume that you have high chances of being infected. I hope you get my point.

I asking hands regularly is a way to avoid the virus to enter respiratory tract but having awareness about how long it survives on what sort of surfaces will make life easy. Just because one is washing his hands it doesn’t mean that they are completely safe and can just go around touching everything and anything.

When we can take some additional precautions without burdening too much then what’s the issue here?

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The atomic theory was just a hint to your thinking…I’m also talking about “your” microscopic surface variations with “Rutherford experiment”!😛

PS. I’m not Physics student, but I did watch+listen a lot of lecture of Richard Feynman and other Physicists….Just for “Time_pass”!😛

You should know there is no 100% smooth surface on microscopic scale else there will be no friction. That is also why maglev trains use magnetism to float in air(theoretically speaking) to achieve such high speeds. What Rutherford experiment was talking about was the internal structure of atom while a surface is a combination of atoms arranged in a particular way, there is no relation between these two in the context here. Anyway leave it since you are not a physics student & I read physics for only 2 semesters during my engineering so neither of us can be considered as expert in such matters so why argue. This was about newspaper spreading coronavirus infection & that has already been discussed in above posts so others can make their own decision based on those posts.

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raghupro wrote:

I asking hands regularly is a way to avoid the virus to enter respiratory tract but having awareness about how long it survives on what sort of surfaces will make life easy. Just because one is washing his hands it doesn’t mean that they are completely safe and can just go around touching everything and anything.

When we can take some additional precautions without burdening too much then what’s the issue here?

No issue, I was just giving another option to consider. Till now there is not a single confirmed case of corovirus infection by a newspaper so it is not like reading newspaper daily while taking the usual precaution of washing your hands is something dangerous/risky to follow.

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I tell the delivery personnel to put the package in a corner of our verandah and do not touch it for 1-5 days depending on the products.
If perishable then 1 day time and if non perishable then 5 days.
My dates/glucon d and shampoos are still outside, entering 4th day 😅
Remember to wash your hands with soap/sanitizer

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i leave the reveived packets unattended for almost whole day in balcony. Then take it inside by wiping.
vegetables and fruites are left for 6-8 hrs outside and immediately washed when taken inside. Also dont consume or transfer in fridge any item.

wash hands after all incidences…
also try go shopping or buying necessary items in morning and take bath after you reach home.

That is all i practice the day I have to buy anything or receive any courier!!

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You should know there is no 100% smooth surface on microscopic scale else there will be no friction. That is also why maglev trains use magnetism to float in air(theoretically speaking) to achieve such high speeds. What Rutherford experiment was talking about was the internal structure of atom while a surface is a combination of atoms arranged in a particular way, there is no relation between these two in the context here. Anyway leave it since you are not a physics student & I read physics for only 2 semesters during my engineering so neither of us can be considered as expert in such matters so why argue. This was about newspaper spreading coronavirus infection & that has already been discussed in above posts so others can make their own decision based on those posts.

Everyone knows that there is no smooth surface at the atomic/molecular level.

Anyways what I tried to say was that: think of the whole surface as an atom, where the holes/void in the surface represent void between nucleus and the electron (not going into quantum mechanics of course) and imagine shooting virus on the surface just like shooting protons in Rutherford’s case. So according to you most of the time the virus doesn’t stick to the surface since there is lots of void in the surface…just like lots of protons get passed without deflecting in Rutherford’s case 😛

My point was that saying Newspaper can’t contain the virus (based on what you said) is similar to the above experiment.
But, it’s apparent that you aren’t shooting the virus on newspaper…infected hand touch can make direct transfer of the virus to the surface of the newspaper.

Okay…I agree that it’s no point to argue but all of our arguments were healthy..no fight! 😜

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