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How ebay and ebay buyer scammed me HELP!!!

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Demondealer

Hi Dimers,

I sold a 2tb seagate hd on ebay and after few days i got a call from ebay(I was out side at that time) saying that buyer opened a claim on me that he has received 1tb hard disk and he even uploaded the images on ebay claim page. After i went home and checked the pictures and shocked because he received a 1tb WD HD which i did not sell!! how?

I got realized that i buyer scammed me for the hard disk and contacted the ebay. the customer representative said that i need to provide any pictures that i have taken before shipping the parcel. Seriously!!! i sold around 10 hard disk that week how can i take pictures and videos of the parcel while packing it? how many seller are doing this? after that the buyer return shipped the package and ebay approved buyers claim

again i opened the claim on sellers protection. after 3days i received the buyers return parcel and came home and unboxed it. Guss what he send me a bunch of news papers in the box. As i know he is going to scam me i asked my brother to open the box and videoed it

I sent these images and videos to [email protected]. after that they called me when i was not near my phone and got below email
https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/369715/medium/2253870-ebay.png?1481009249
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so i have forwarded everything except " we would request you to provide us with the scan copy of formal complaint in writing that you have received the empty parcel with acknowledgment, seal / stamp of courier service" I asked the my local courier company for a written and they rejected my request saying that it is not their problem that i have got an empty parcel and i should contact the person whomever i sent it

So i have called ebay customer service and said the courier company is not providing any letter to me and he replied that i should provide whatever proof they have asked even though it is not available.+ HOW HOW HOW should i provide a letter that is not provided by DTDC courier agrrrrrrrrrrr! I just want to kill every one (Sorry https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif)+

So they again closed the claim and i lost 7000/- what happens if i sold a iPhone 6 128gb and buyer receives a nokia 1100 128kb?

any suggestions? how i can get my money back from this shit hole ebay?https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/furious.gif Please help anyone https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/XNTSe.gif

SORRY FOR BAD ENGLISH

VIDEO LINK TO THE RETURN PACKAGE I GOT FROM BUYER

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@micke wrote:

@Demondealer wrote:


I have already mentioned the 1st thing to ebay. they said that the weight does not matter as the buyer may have packed the item with more care!! https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif They said!!
I will try to do the second thing tomorrow


If the weight of hard disk without any packaging is 600 grams and weight on their system is 200 grams, then this should be enough proof.
eBay will listen to this on phone. Contact ebay early in the morning by 10.30-11 am


ON phone https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_eek.gif the ebay seller protection guy speaks like MAFIA LEADER https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_cry.gif HIS voice is like shut the hell up i don’t want to listen to your wining and moreover i cant speak such fluent english https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Sorry for your loss
But I can’t understand why both of buyer’s feedback even given by you are GREEN (Positive) when they are supposed to be RED (negative)?

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@saurabh3321735 wrote:

Sorry for your loss
But I can’t understand why both of buyer’s feedback even given by you are GREEN (Positive) when they are supposed to be RED (negative)?


because sellers cant give negative(red) rating to buyers according to bull crap shitty ebay https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif

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@DealSeeker wrote:

@Demondealer I can only sympathize with you. Since you have already exhausted eBay’s legal recourse, such depraved insects should be taught a lesson in their own ways, IYKWIM. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif


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you mean to somehow financially put the buyer at loss (if so, how)

OR

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I think the wording “we would request you to provide us with the scan copy of formal complaint in writing that you have received the empty parcel”

means that ‘you’ write the formal letter on paper/ printout and send them the scan/digital photo of the same.

as for the local courier office not stamping it or acknowledging it.. hope you have been living for quiet some time in India.

Here even top political or private level appointments are secured by submitting documents that are not exactly..

well the point is, you can ask some considerate staff at local office (or any other locality, say a kilometre or two away from your home) to at least stamp it and initial it.

I do not think one has to give up all hope just yet. @DealSeeker sir says all legal recourse may have been exhausted; but I think as @micke says; first trying to reach a sensible senior is worthwhile. and if that does not work intimate them of the written lrgal letter, get the same drafted from a legal advisor. even 5Rs is as important as 50000 IMO

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@Demondealer wrote:

@saurabh3321735 wrote:

Sorry for your loss
But I can’t understand why both of buyer’s feedback even given by you are GREEN (Positive) when they are supposed to be RED (negative)?


because sellers cant give negative(red) rating to buyers according to bull crap shitty ebay https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif


That’s wierd. Ebay should give that right to sellers.
BTW as said by dimers above, Check the weight of WD HDD from their website and check weight you received from DTDC.
if weight of Original HDD is greater than parcel you got, you have a big chance to win.
Otherwise, you have to find some other way
Maybe include Media or Police? 7k is not a small amount. But I must say that your timing is bad. Ebay Care must be flooded with emails from recent coupon misuse.

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@logout wrote:

@DealSeeker wrote:

@Demondealer I can only sympathize with you. Since you have already exhausted eBay’s legal recourse, such depraved insects should be taught a lesson in their own ways, IYKWIM. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_wink.gif


??
you mean to somehow financially put the buyer at loss (if so, how)

OR

https://cdn0.desidime.com/Placeholders/No-Image-Available.png

??


Right now i really prefer to use the image method https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/t2Jn8.gif

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@logout wrote:

I think the wording “we would request you to provide us with the scan copy of formal complaint in writing that you have received the empty parcel”

means that ‘you’ write the formal letter on paper/ printout and send them the scan/digital photo of the same.


at first i have thought the same and written a letter my self. check this
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on phone the ebay seller protection team demanded a letter from DTDC office https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif

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@Demondealer wrote:
` +I just want to kill every one (Sorry https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif )

+ .


@Demondealer wrote:
i just want to hang myself for letting this scammer to do whatever he want

@Demondealer wrote:
Right now i really prefer to use the image method https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/t2Jn8.gif

I think presently you are not in a frame of mind to surf the tide to your advantage. Suggest you hold back, sip some water, breath , calmly think things through.

I guess you had better not risk more assets than whatever is already at risk.

do consult any friend or associate in legal field to draft a proper intimation.

the video thing is faff. you probably were getting snowballed by some staff not trained or equipped to handle such things.

if they persist; (and I would not be too proud to even suggest this usually).. just make unauthorised stamp of the courier and put it in your written complaint.

the weight markings on courier site wont help as the data entry operators usually create the order with some pre-set slabs.

you may even create the damn video on a phone which has been set to a previous date or on a point and shoot.

just prepare the dummy lookalike video of the packing.

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I feel this thread has to be deleted as many looters might misuse it. You have told the whole world about ebay loops and definitely this is a free education to fraudsters. Please delete at least the ebay loopholes. Some senior dimer who might be an ebay seller might help you. Ignore if you feel I am not making any sense.

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@Demondealer wrote:

@Sanjay .. wrote:

@Demondealer wrote:

@Sanjay .. Yes they just need images from buyers and they want written proofs from us? excatly my point!!! what happens if it is a 50,000? mobile


Yes bro,I have removed all my listings.. I am not gonna sell anything onwards on ebay … My claims are still open however I don’t feel that they will be honoured,I have wasted my half day for arranging the docs…but no success


@Sanjay .. how much did you loose? https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif


2 hard drives bro…. 14k…

My claims are still under process, i have sent the docs today which i could arrange. i cant make fake docs:cry:

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I think DD should have VD option for comments too.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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i would suggest u to contact that other seller too who was scammed by this person and both of u should
send mail to ebay top officials along with some media house eg ndtv and write your whole story

attach all documents videos and screenshots along with the buyer ratings one where the other seller left comment about the buyer…they need to know that this is not the first time he is doing this

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Really Sad for u brother !! Ebay just doing bad thing…

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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why did u give him positive rating in eBay by the way

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
PS- I can offer help

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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When i see such inhumane cases my blood boils.
Please bro go to any extent, do things other dimers suggested, just teach that fraudster and ebay a lesson for the sake of your well wishers.

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@Demondealer wrote:

The only question killing me is!! HOW CAN I PROVIDE A LETTER THAT IS NOT PROVIDED BY DTDC COURIER OFFICE? Its like ebay is stabbing me with a knife saying that we are just poking you with a ear-bud https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/9IRWa.gif


bro i have one doubt….in the harddisk there is any warenty details ….any number like imei……u just raised a police complaint for that…..you have the guys address ……

then post the address like street no and place…..if any dimer near that place …he could help for u bro…..

i am worried about you bro…..shit on ebay

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Ebay, brace yourself, tumhari aise taise krne aa rha hai @@demondealer@@ https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif

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@billa ajith wrote:

@Demondealer wrote:

The only question killing me is!! HOW CAN I PROVIDE A LETTER THAT IS NOT PROVIDED BY DTDC COURIER OFFICE? Its like ebay is stabbing me with a knife saying that we are just poking you with a ear-bud https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/9IRWa.gif


bro i have one doubt….in the harddisk there is any warenty details ….any number like imei……u just raised a police complaint for that…..you have the guys address ……

then post the address like street no and place…..if any dimer near that place …he could help for u bro…..

i am worried about you bro…..shit on ebay


There are the details of buyer

Devender Boora
Hno – 63 Sec-73 Lig – 19
Dilip Singh Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001
India
7581912305

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@Demondealer wrote:

@billa ajith wrote:

@Demondealer wrote:

The only question killing me is!! HOW CAN I PROVIDE A LETTER THAT IS NOT PROVIDED BY DTDC COURIER OFFICE? Its like ebay is stabbing me with a knife saying that we are just poking you with a ear-bud https://cdn0.desidime.com/smileys/9IRWa.gif


bro i have one doubt….in the harddisk there is any warenty details ….any number like imei……u just raised a police complaint for that…..you have the guys address ……

then post the address like street no and place…..if any dimer near that place …he could help for u bro…..

i am worried about you bro…..shit on ebay


There are the details of buyer

Devender Boora
Hno – 63 Sec-73 Lig – 19
Dilip Singh Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001
India
7581912305


Try contacting Cyber Cell Of Chhatisgarh, Contact nos/Email Ids you can get easily !

Teach him a lesson !

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Guys @bonnyy203 @DealSeeker @newdduser @happy2prog @yogeshgemini @thrifty_indian @micke @soccergiants @hemant.kamat @saurabh3321735 @logout @Sanjay .. @thrifty_indian @devil09 @AloNe ForeVer @BlueWater @Ranaboys @coolll_himan233 @coolll_himan233 @billa ajith @vaibhavjain.vj78558 I just got a mail from ebay. check below image

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/369933/medium/2255622-ebay_1.png?1481009344

I have responded to that mail

Dear Neeraj Kumar ,

The buyer intentionally scammed me and another seller previously (check his ratings) using ebay policies which have several loop holes. I don’t think is going to respond to my messages. I tried to call him but his number is not reachable(mostly it is a fake number and you wont be able to reach). I have requested the ebay team several times on call not to refund the buyer and i even tried to convenience them that is just replaced by taking the new hd out and replaced it with a old 1tb hd in pictures. But no one cared to listen to my concern. You guys just took his fake pictures as proof and approved the refund. This scammer wont stop even if you block his account(he will create a new one). You need to make changes to your seller protection policies. This is happening to many sellers. I have already posted this matter on several online forums and even contacting some media too

Anyway Please contact the buyer in this matter and refund my money. Hope you will help me

Thank you for trying to look in the case again

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@Demondealer wrote:

Guys @bonnyy203 @DealSeeker @newdduser @happy2prog @yogeshgemini @thrifty_indian @micke @soccergiants @hemant.kamat @saurabh3321735 @logout @Sanjay .. @thrifty_indian @devil09 @AloNe ForeVer @BlueWater @Ranaboys @coolll_himan233 @coolll_himan233 @billa ajith @vaibhavjain.vj78558 I just got a mail from ebay. check below image

https://cdn0.desidime.com/attachments/photos/369934/medium/2255634-ebay_1.png?1481009344

I have responded to that mail

Dear Neeraj Kumar ,

The buyer intentionally scammed me and another seller previously (check his ratings) using ebay policies which have several loop holes. I don’t think is going to respond to my messages. I tried to call him but his number is not reachable(mostly it is a fake number and you wont be able to reach). I have requested the ebay team several times on call not to refund the buyer and i even tried to convenience them that is just replaced by taking the new hd out and replaced it with a old 1tb hd in pictures. But no one cared to listen to my concern. You guys just took his fake pictures as proof and approved the refund. This scammer wont stop even if you block his account(he will create a new one). You need to make changes to your seller protection policies. This is happening to many sellers. I have already posted this matter on several online forums and even contacting some media too

Anyway Please contact the buyer in this matter and refund my money. Hope you will help me

Thank you for trying to look in the case again


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@Demondealer

Bro my buyer also from Raipur.. and the address seems same

here are the details

Kishore Lal
Hno-619 Sec-53 Lig -18
Meera Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001 India

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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That’s the reason I hate ebay and its stupid sellers protection and buyers protection shit. Sorry for you man.

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Raipur jaake face2face karlo :p

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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This post actually gives ideas to some people who are crazy about looooting stuff.

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@Sanjay .. wrote:

@Demondealer

Bro my buyer also from Raipur.. and the address seems same

here are the details

Kishore Lal
Hno-619 Sec-53 Lig -18
Meera Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001 India


Wow! That’s a nice find. Share the cell number. Is it same as given above?
This might help you @Demondealer
Maybe this is his real name.

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@saurabh3321735 wrote:

@Sanjay .. wrote:

@Demondealer

Bro my buyer also from Raipur.. and the address seems same

here are the details

Kishore Lal
Hno-619 Sec-53 Lig -18
Meera Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001 India


Wow! That’s a nice find. Share the cell number. Is it same as given above?
This might help you @Demondealer
Maybe this is his real name.


Buyer information:
Kishore Lal
8516921137
[email protected]

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Same Buyer , he made minor changes to address to fool ebay system ( same format for address is used )

Kishore Lal
Hno-619 Sec-53 Lig -18
Meera Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001 India

Buyer information:
Kishore Lal
8516921137
[email protected]
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Devender Boora
Hno – 63 Sec-73 Lig – 19
Dilip Singh Colony, Tatibandh
Raipur, Chhattisgarh 492001
India
7581912305


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