How good [ or bad] is saputo whey protein ?

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

@thrifty_indian wrote:

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

The 51% cb on mb proteins is gone for now

hey is it worth spending that extra 1k per kg over the normal mb whey for that isolate considering the fact that the normal mb priced at 2k per kg has 25gm protein per serving [ of 33gm] where as the iso whey from mb [ priced at 3k per kg] has 30gm protein per serving

the increase in protein content is around 20% but the price is 50% more than the normal one

try ankerite protein…very easy to dijest

Bhai ladai dange k liye kon body bana raha hai

Mai to balle banake ladki pataunga

@chaudharysaab wrote:

brother its a genuine advice from my heart
dont do gym n eat suppliments , bcz gains will be lost after you quit lifting for a month or lazzzynesssss or due to job
INSTEAD
take up MMA/combat training lessons [ then u can beat any builder within a minute ]
such skills n gains will stay with you for lifetime.

- to all Also.

"@bootysweat":https://www.desidime.com/users/...68 wrote:

Bhai ladai dange k liye kon body bana raha hai Mai to balle banake ladki pataunga

"@chaudharysaab":https://www.desidime.com/users...22 wrote:

brother its a genuine advice from my heart dont do gym n eat suppliments , bcz gains will be lost after you quit lifting for a month or lazzzynesssss or due to job INSTEAD take up MMA/combat training lessons [ then u can beat any builder within a minute ] such skills n gains will stay with you for lifetime. - to all Also.

@thrifty_indian wrote:

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

bro NCR me to sab suppliments and WHEY protiens bnte h
sab nakli …yaha morta muradnagar ghaziabad me bahut si factories h jaha khule me supplements bnake haryana jk delhi UP me supply kiya jaata h …
kitni baar amar ujala me bhi aaya h

@thrifty bro i had just about quoted/tagged jadibuti and Chaudhary Charan Singh but now seeing the diskusion get so Trollish, i’ve changed what i had to say. Now i ask you (and others here) how proven or tested are these things, over decades of use¿ I mean, agreed that all of you already bit the bait, but considering that prolonged use of these has shown to leave trace elements of steriods or testosterone getting altered.
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Do we really get much by pumping fakish bulges.
I have a spoilt brat of a first cousin and i was shocked when once he took me to some mall outlet of these yash birla type outlet of some shop and just bought some 4000rs worth muck.

Still in his teens in 2010 and his hairline had receeded like a 35-40’ish guy. I doubt heavy hormonal changes. (male hormones)
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He had been taking those kachara for long and definitely not had malnourishment or anything to blame for hair loss.
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So i again ask the same. Do we, in our eagerness to mimic, just end up doing things without even knowing the consequences?
Note: not much, but I do have some idea of independent and truthful research on long term effects of supplements. Have known some close people high up in pharma field. They interact, sometimes show medical journal articles, white papers.

I do know how US FDA practically warns that some banned chemical is merely rebranded as ‘WOW’ and slipped in South America, Asia etc.
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Kya ladki pataney ke baad ki ‘steps’ [cough] mei baalak ko koi pareshani hogi, as in, do the trace elements that remain in body for long term after prolonged use of these won’t hamper the ability to..

@no fpd moshai apor views ki aachey¿
Any signs of http://www.google.com/search?q=male+pattern+ba.... !?
Still gung ho on the regimen or..
@billyboy ? ^{no need for sildenafil later in life naah ¿}

And please don’t say that noodles are free of monosodium Glutomate, politicians are noble people or that these supplements don’t have any steriods or harmful things if taken repeatedly.

recently made a fool of myself. Ordered that Dabur ‘sugar free’ chyawanprash. Damn! it had sorbitol. So passing it to a senior relative who already has a cataract developing is out of question .

@bootysweat wrote:

The 51% cb on mb proteins is gone for now

hey is it worth spending that extra 1k per kg over the normal mb whey for that isolate considering the fact that the normal mb priced at 2k per kg has 25gm protein per serving [ of 33gm] where as the iso whey from mb [ priced at 3k per kg] has 30gm protein per serving

the increase in protein content is around 20% but the price is 50% more than the normal one

Since I know that you are a skinny guy who can actually pack some non-lean weight in addition to muscles, you don’t need iso-whey. Also, since you need to be eating carb-heavy after workouts to trigger insulin, spending extra on iso-whey doesn’t make sense. I’d recommend iso-whey only for your cutting phase, which is something you don’t need to think about for at least a few months after starting bodybuilding. CC @thrifty_indian

As for your initial question about whether to get Saputo or MB, I say go for MB. I have no personal experience with Saputo but I have tried MB.

@DS if you are back at ease from your trip, then few queries.
[unsure, ‘cause i thought that PMs you may not be responding to for travel or other reasons, but then you aren’t frequent otherwise too]

and (off topic)

2] you once spoke of some sugar substitutes. Can you please guide to that post or repeat now. As in, if not Sorbitol based, then what other synthetic or so called plant extracts might be safe.
[say, for someone having Type II diabetes mellitus, advancing cataract, hypertension]

curious: do these supplements (at least the reputed names) declare all ingredients fairly¿ any sorbitol in these?

thank you for your time on this!

All these stuff make me feel like an alien. Am I alone @AloNe ForeVer

@saymyname See I really don’t know anything like this. I even dont know how whey proteins and stuff tastes like. And look at Ds @DealSeeker & his words are bouncing over my head. Same query as @Spock what’s cutting phase sorry for the lame question if it is

galat galat galat

if you have money it is everything
being funny , witty etc is aplus if you have money ; otherwise without money we are as good as bandars

@chaudharysaab wrote:

@bootysweat wrote:

Bhai ladai dange k liye kon body bana raha hai

Mai to balle banake ladki pataunga

@chaudharysaab wrote:

brother its a genuine advice from my heart
dont do gym n eat suppliments , bcz gains will be lost after you quit lifting for a month or lazzzynesssss or due to job
INSTEAD
take up MMA/combat training lessons [ then u can beat any builder within a minute ]
such skills n gains will stay with you for lifetime.

- to all Also.

brah ladkibazi koi hard work nhi
may apne friend se kyi lakh crore arab guna sundar hu par college ki sabse sundar ladki ko chote-se-bandar[thoda zayada hogia ] jese ladke ne pata liya
kese ???
bcz he was funny n quick-witted n sarcastic nothing else
- if u have money – its a plus .

@Spock and @PaytmKaPoojari
Even though the little knowledge of bodybuilding that I have is gathered through browsing forums[without practically applying it myself] like bodybuilding.com , t-nation.com etc. etc. etc let me try to address your queries here

There are majorly two phases ; the bulking phase and the cutting phase -

Skinny people like me initially try to get some muscles on their body during this phase. Since gaining only muscle is almost impossible bodybuilders do tend to gain some fat along this phase as well. Diet during this phase are rich in carbs of all kid.

During the cutting phase ; bodybuilders try to lose some fat and make their muscles look more prominent and try to get that shredded or ripped look [ like the one in thriftyIndian’s dp ] . Calorie intake is reduced and while trying to lose all the fat and get to a 5-7% body fat level some muscles might get lost in the process as well.

The Bulk: A period of time when the primary goal is building muscle, gaining weight, increasing strength, or all of the above. Calorie intake is increased so a caloric surplus is present.

The Cut: A period of time when the primary goal is losing fat, losing weight, getting leaner, or all of the above. Calorie intake is decreased and/or calorie expenditure is increased so that a caloric deficit is present.

@hackerboys wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote:

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

bro NCR me to sab suppliments and WHEY protiens bnte h
sab nakli …yaha morta muradnagar ghaziabad me bahut si factories h jaha khule me supplements bnake haryana jk delhi UP me supply kiya jaata h …
kitni baar amar ujala me bhi aaya h

I know about the fake supplements. You have to buy from a genuine seller. Everyone knows that.

@thrifty_indian wrote:

@hackerboys wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote:

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

bro NCR me to sab suppliments and WHEY protiens bnte h
sab nakli …yaha morta muradnagar ghaziabad me bahut si factories h jaha khule me supplements bnake haryana jk delhi UP me supply kiya jaata h …
kitni baar amar ujala me bhi aaya h

I know about the fake supplements. You have to buy from a genuine seller. Everyone knows that.

genuine .. where to buy .
can i buy online from amazon , flipkart .

@DealSeeker wrote:

@bootysweat wrote:

The 51% cb on mb proteins is gone for now

hey is it worth spending that extra 1k per kg over the normal mb whey for that isolate considering the fact that the normal mb priced at 2k per kg has 25gm protein per serving [ of 33gm] where as the iso whey from mb [ priced at 3k per kg] has 30gm protein per serving

the increase in protein content is around 20% but the price is 50% more than the normal one

Since I know that you are a skinny guy who can actually pack some non-lean weight in addition to muscles, you don’t need iso-whey. Also, since you need to be eating carb-heavy after workouts to trigger insulin, spending extra on iso-whey doesn’t make sense. I’d recommend iso-whey only for your cutting phase, which is something you don’t need to think about for at least a few months after starting bodybuilding. CC @thrifty_indian

As for your initial question about whether to get Saputo or MB, I say go for MB. I have no personal experience with Saputo but I have tried MB.

I recommended him the Mbalze Iso-prtien only because I have tried both and the normal whey is really meh. The iso one responded good but not like iso-whey does but more like a good brand ‘100% whey protein’ does. And the price when bought from PAytm really cheaper than 100% whey.

Ofcourse he has to take carb in 2:1 ratio for proper growth. I didn’t go in that detail because he didn’t ask for.

@hackerboys wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote:

@hackerboys wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote:

Saputo was infact my very first brand, I was in the same position as you are (in college and broke ) I used it 3 scoops a day. It’s decent not very effective (it’s raw whey) not filtrated or refined. But the thing is every body is different and something are more effective for others and some are not. So give it a try for 20 days atleast. IF you want cheap and good Indian brand then get MBlaze ‘Iso-protein’ (their normal whey is same level as Saputo). On discount I have seen it selling for 2800 for 5lbs on Paytm(the seller Aquamarine). Super VFM.

Edit: If you are in NCR then you can find Saputo in loose packaging.

bro NCR me to sab suppliments and WHEY protiens bnte h
sab nakli …yaha morta muradnagar ghaziabad me bahut si factories h jaha khule me supplements bnake haryana jk delhi UP me supply kiya jaata h …
kitni baar amar ujala me bhi aaya h

I know about the fake supplements. You have to buy from a genuine seller. Everyone knows that.

genuine .. where to buy .
can i buy online from amazon , flipkart .

I never bought from Flipkart, but if you recognise the seller. Go ahead. Amazon is always trusted if it’s ‘Amazon fulfilled’. And healthkart.

@Spock You have first realise that not all supplements are alike. You read many negative things about supplements in newspaper because it serves good masala for ignorant aam-janta. I remember an article in Mumbai-mirror(IIRC) it was the headline. A guy had his pelvic bones melted, the paper wrote at length about supplements and how these are synonymous with steroids.

The supplement we are talking about here is whey protein, (google and read at length if you want to know in detail). It’s a constituent part of milk. Considered to be basic building block and growth. Whey powder is by-product from cheese making and then dried and filtered. (That what is Saputo, raw). The supplement companies buy the same powder from dairies like Amul and then process it further like micro-filtration and add some other naturally occurring enzymes and additives like glutamine which makes the protein more effective. By better digestion and absorption in the body, hence the extra price.

The ones you are talking about are indeed called steroids not supplements. If you search for steroids supplements then you will find whey named ‘Anabolic’. So you would know before buying that you are indeed buying souped-up supplements. In addition to that, the steroids also have a full regime, it’s not like there’s one steroid which would make you super-man. The bodybuilders take a whole bunch of steroids to see the effect.

If you are concerned then you can take the protein requirement from food and skip supplements altogether. In fact, I met a few bodybuilders who never took supplements. But the amount of food they took to fulfill their requirement means you would spend half your life eating and other half pooping. Hence, the usefulness of supplements.

P.S. I have seen ads on TV nowadays even Complan is selling their crap as ‘with whey protein’.
P.P.S FOr sugar substitute I use ‘Stevia’. It is becoming popular now and can be found in stores readily for 150 bucks for 50 gms. Earlier I had 4 plants of stevia at home, that was my source. If you want to get that really cheap or not available at your nearest store. Source a few stevia plants(now you can get plants online too) and keep them in shade. Dry their leaves and then keep them in ethanol/alcohol for 24 hours, even vodka will do(Vodka is mixture of Ethanol and water) or a gentleman had suggested me to get ‘medicinal alcohol’ from homeopath shop because vodka was too derogatory for him(though I haven’t tried that). Anyway, after that heat that solution until the alcohol evaporates(don’t boil) and then filter it in a bottle.
P.P.P.S You would be surprised that all thee supplements that we usually take are prescribed by doctors for various ailments. Like one day I was the chemist shop and I saw a person buying a powder which had ‘Arginine’ as prime ingredient. Arginine is blood thinner basically. Doctors prescribe it to heart patients to thin their blood so that they have normal blood flow in of blockage. The bodybuilders (gym goers) use it for the same properties because it leads to thin the blood making it reach the muscles faster with the additional nutrients to heal those muscles. So unknowingly you might have have took supplements that you not even know about. Like the vitamin pills. Also another example is creatine. Creatine exists naturally in brain and is responsible of proper function of brain but it has other property of holding water and increasing endurance leading in consumption of creatine as a supplement for gym goers while doctors prescribe it for people who may have deficiency for the same. If we talk about steroids, then they are hormones mostly which get injected in muscles because hormones don’t get digested. You might have notices that doctors issue a warning before administering a hormone. Because, obviously they have side-effects and are ONLY given in dire emergency. So, I think you get my point. Supplements and steroids are very different things.

@bootysweat ( My expression when I was tying your name)

I forgot to mention that there is another brand named Davisco which is same as Saputo.

@Spock wrote:

@DS if you are back at ease from your trip, then few queries.
[unsure, ‘cause i thought that PMs you may not be responding to for travel or other reasons, but then you aren’t frequent otherwise too]

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3] cutting phase: what would that be¿

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1] is there even a minuscule (even 0.01%) chance of steriods or known/unknown substances without a proven empirical data finding their way into supplements/ food additives ?

and (off topic)

2] you once spoke of some sugar substitutes. Can you please guide to that post or repeat now. As in, if not Sorbitol based, then what other synthetic or so called plant extracts might be safe.
[say, for someone having Type II diabetes mellitus, advancing cataract, hypertension]

curious: do these supplements (at least the reputed names) declare all ingredients fairly¿ any sorbitol in these?



thank you for your time on this!

I am still out of town, bro. Anyway, let me try to quickly address your questions.

Cutting phase: This is already explained quite well by @bootysweat. I don’t want to add any extra info in the interest of avoiding confusion and further back and forth. http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t... CC @PaytmKaPoojari

Chance of steroids making their way into whey proteins: This does happen with the second-tier brands and has been discussed on DD as well. Sorry, can’t find link to that thread right now.

Non-caloric sweeteners: I think this is the post you are referring to: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t.... Moreover, Stevia is a proven plant-extract non-caloric sweetener which is known to increase insulin sensitivity for Type-II diabetics. Please look up some scientific papers to read and understand more. I am unfortunately not on a good internet connection to do this for you.

Non-caloric sweeteners in whey supplements: Yes, almost every brand uses artificial sweeteners in their whey powders. Most use aspartame, sucralose, or acesulfame. IMO, sucralose is the safest among these. See the post I linked above for brand recommendations. Haven’t personally come across any whey powder containing sorbitol but I don’t doubt that there might be some supplement brands using it in their products.

@hackerboys You might find the discussion in the following thread useful: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...

@thrifty_indian wrote:

@bootysweat ( My expression when I was tying your name)

I forgot to mention that there is another brand named Davisco which is same as Saputo.

yaa came across davisco as well
but it sells only in 25kg packaging

It has a product named bipro that 99.9% whey protein at a pretty affordable price tag {rs1750 for a kg}

@bootysweat wrote:

@thrifty_indian wrote:

@bootysweat ( My expression when I was tying your name)

I forgot to mention that there is another brand named Davisco which is same as Saputo.

yaa came across davisco as well
but it sells only in 25kg packaging

It has a product named bipro that 99.9% whey protein at a pretty affordable price tag {rs1750 for a kg}

Don’t fall for those marketing gimmicks, it’s just another way of saying not as good as ‘100% whey protein’

@chaudharysaab wrote:

@bootysweat wrote:

Bhai ladai dange k liye kon body bana raha hai

Mai to balle banake ladki pataunga

@chaudharysaab wrote:

brother its a genuine advice from my heart
dont do gym n eat suppliments , bcz gains will be lost after you quit lifting for a month or lazzzynesssss or due to job
INSTEAD
take up MMA/combat training lessons [ then u can beat any builder within a minute ]
such skills n gains will stay with you for lifetime.

- to all Also.

brah ladkibazi koi hard work nhi
may apne friend se kyi lakh crore arab guna sundar hu par college ki sabse sundar ladki ko chote-se-bandar[thoda zayada hogia ] jese ladke ne pata liya
kese ???
bcz he was funny n quick-witted n sarcastic nothing else
- if u have money – its a plus .

@Spock sorry cant contribute much in this subject
I once tried the “WOW” brand… its fake.. please never buy.. if u give a negative review in amazon regarding not working etc… u may get a call and they will offer you another product for free for removing that review..

Instead of using only protein creatines can also be chosen… which increases the performance so that the muscles grows automatically.

@bootysweat Regarding the brands: What I understood from my gym mates… first try all brands within ur reach.. A costlier or foreign brand may not suit you…where an Indian cheaper one may work… it varies from man to man… Therefore I will suggest to try in small quantity if you feel it is working then go for bulk purchase…
muscleblaze is not a bad option though

@bootysweat

I don’t understand the love for whey protein in India. keeping all medical jargons aside, i see only two broad advantage of whey protein : Fast absorption & low cost of protein per lbs. Back in US, most people buy whey protein since it is considered cheap source of protein & you don’t need much time to prepare it compared to say chicken breast which is expensive out there & one needs some time grilling/cooking it. On the other hand in India, we end up paying almost twice , sometimes three times over retail US prices for imported whey protein.

Natural protein sources such as Chicken breast, Tuna is much cheaper in India. 100 grams of chicken breast has 23 grams of protein. If you are working out, you don’t need more than 1.5 gms of protein per kilogram of your weight. Simply put, an Indian male weighing 70 kgs doesn’t need more than 105-110 grams of protein a day. All you need is around 250 grams of chicken breast, some Paneer/eggs, broccoli/lentils and a glass of desi milk to take care of your protein needs per day. Wouldn’t cost more than 100 bucks a day to meet your daily protein requirement with the natural sources i mentioned.

Before you get carried away with all fancy sounding whey brands, do give a thought about what i mentioned above.

@thrifty_indian wrote:
If you are concerned then you can take the protein requirement from food and skip supplements altogether. In fact, I met a few bodybuilders who never took supplements. But the amount of food they took to fulfill their requirement means you would spend half your life eating and other half pooping. Hence, the usefulness of supplements.

That is not quite right. You don’t need truckloads of food to meet your daily protein needs. During my bodybuilding days, i made it a point to meet my protein requirement using natural food sources. I use to weigh 90 kgs back then and needed about 150 grams of protein a day. My diet use to consist of Chicken breast, Tuna slices, Egg whites, Brocolli and lentils. Agreed it was not as convenient as a whey scoop but i was okay with it.

CC : @Spock
@thrifty_indian
@DealSeeker

All fake suppliments are mixed with some sort of steroids , beleive it or not
once my grandfather visited a 150-year-old-chain-of-people/babas who portrayed themselves to be blessed from some godly divine powers to cure any illness with a power-pack.
later it came out , they were blessing people with steroids

No doubt shorts gains are visible but too lethal in long term.

@cybertechie Yes the daily requirement for protein is 1.5 times only. And whole foods are absolute must, no one is substituting the whole foods. Rather we are supplementing them to cover our bases. The usefulness of whey protein power is just after workout you need immediate supple of protein to the body and you can’t do that with food. You can drink a shake or chocolate milk but that won’t suffice. For rest of the meals you do need to eat chicken and eggs or whatever you make get your hands on or can afford.

Edit: The comment about eating and pooping all day was for bodybuilders. I the ones I knew ate 2kgs of mutton and 30 eggs a day.

thank you so much everyone and sorry, i wasn’t much here past two-three days.
sorry too for bumping a gone discussion.

I kind of side with @SAPKaPoojari on the being clueless front duh and with @cybertechie bhai on being natural front.

thanks @DS bro and i do realise your situation (not having good internet and/or having to depend on piddu devices )
@no fpd dada thank you bandhu for responding. I only faintly recollected you were trying to do something like this (get leaner) back then.
I (wrongly) assumed you’d have gone ahead on this whey shey thing.

@thrifty bhai bhai, ye i do completely agree on what you made me understand.
I confess, i never really checked it in-depth as to what whey teey is.

and i am not anti steroids. I know, in certain situations it is a God send. and in moderation, it is not harmful.
Maa’s slip-disc like situation required her to be administered those pain busters (steroids) .

seeing all those ‘How Things are Made’ episodes and all FDA raids/ fiasco’s in India only triggers my phobias.

All i meant was that, in this field no assurances of reality. You procure raw material from me.
I give you a paper certificate saying yes I declare it is as per such and such standard, you take my word
add it to your product and sell it.

the whole cycle;
milk procurement – to the cheese/dairy products manufacturer
to by product uptake by peripheral guys
to the end product/ brand, might have like 5-6 parties involved.

and I do understand that the concentrates have helped us to cut down on consuming food in bulk.
[the funny example of eating pooping had me laugh as I visualised some Sumo wrestler type guy doing it]

overall, I think that even professional body-builders whose sole reason for existence is to ‘build their body’ too are over doing on the pumping iron thing and all these additives thing.

I mean, we did have vegetarian guys who too had a reasonably okay physique.
this person for example, only later in life had to eat egg/ egg dishes.

otherwise it was all normal workouts and all and I do not think whey or other protein existed back then.
May be they did, may be he had, I do not know.

any way, again thank you all for clearing up my loony bin thoughts.

@जड़ी-बूटी i think you should have tagged http://www.desidime.com/searches/sir-is...on ; he’d have better information and guidance.

but as of now, i think you need to make up your mind, you want good health/ physique.. or your objective is ‘ladki patana’.
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If latter, then you already seem to believe that showing your paytm balance balances and ebay gold coin collection and nearbuy credits should get you her attention.
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If you do take thrifty bhai and cybertechie’s advice coupled with your ‘sense of humour’ point,
then consider doing this >>> http://www.desidime.com/forums/humor-zone/topic... funny bhi, chicken bhi !!

[someone said girls like funny guys, someone said eat chicken, you say have money.. Sir Rowan Atkinson fits the bill on all three counts.]
looks.. who cares for looks !!