Need some help regarding Solar Panels connections

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Friends i just installed 2 × 150 w solar panels on the roof of my house .
I have connected them in my inverter for battery charging and output is connected to house .

now my question is – i only get output when i have battery connected to the inverter , if i remove battery i dont get output.

Mainly wat i want to ask – IS THERE ANY WAY TO USE SOLAR PANEL WITHOUT USING BATTERY .
is there any device , controller or method available , so that i can directly take the supply from solar panel dc to ac converter and then directly to my house ..
I dont want to involve battery in this

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I will cover my whole roof with solar panels if i get the solution … i talked to the retailer but they are unable to answer me …

I urgently need any engineer who can help me , i can talk with him thru phn or can meet with him directly , coz i need the solution asap . I spend nearly 80k on all this …

If someone can tell me where to get help or u urself can help me plz pm me …. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif

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I don’t think you can.

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Yes It can be, but just for experiment, not for household use. Say suddenly cloud appeared in the sky, electricity will be discontinued. Electricity will be discontinued at night. So it cant be used for household purpose. There will be a voltage up-down, Battery is a must.

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Yes It can be, but just for experiment, not for household use. Say suddenly cloud appeared in the sky, electricity will be discontinued. Electricity will be discontinued at night. So it cant be used for household purpose. There will be a voltage up-down, Battery is a must.


bro i already have electricity connection in my house , if there are clouds then i will get supply thru electricity connection ..

can we use any device for voltage up down .

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@hackerboys wrote:

@pikkuboss wrote:

Yes It can be, but just for experiment, not for household use. Say suddenly cloud appeared in the sky, electricity will be discontinued. Electricity will be discontinued at night. So it cant be used for household purpose. There will be a voltage up-down, Battery is a must.


bro i already have electricity connection in my house , if there are clouds then i will get supply thru electricity connection ..

can we use any device for voltage up down .


Solar inverter with voltage stablizer will do. But I don’t think what you said is a viable option.

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Delhi me to bijli free hai… Y itna kharcha karing

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Yeah, that’s possible if that is not possible means, then big 10 MW solar plants needs 100’s of container size batteries.

Now come to point, yeah its possible, you need “Grid tie Inverter”.

You need something like this
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/DECEN-10-5-30v-1...

http://www.ebay.in/itm/600W-Grid-Tie-Inverter-2...

or Su-kam Grid tie inverter.

these are simple and No need of batteries.


2 types in grid tie, consumer type internal grid tie(micro grid tie) and Pure Grid tie

consumer type :
http://www.ebay.in/itm/600W-Grid-Tie-Inverter-2...

consumer type is simple, connect the + and – of solar panel to Consumer type grid tie inverter, and connect the electricity plug to normal household scoket and switch ON, finish https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif
300W solar panel producing 180w power means, now your home using 500w power means, it take 180w from solar and excess from Grid, thus reducing the power bills

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300w or 500w or 1000 watt anything , buy according to your need, as this not depends on load.
Consumer type have more advantage as dont we have worry about home peak usage..if we use use Aircondiner, Fridge, TV at the same time means, it grab solar power and extra power from Grid, but in Pure Grid we need high rating 5KW (if we have Airconditner, fridge and all, as all power is flow through pure grid tie inverter)

Pure Grid tie :
Su-Kam Grid tie inverters, you need reverse metering fitted in your house, so it export excess power.

Costly, as all power flow through it.
If you have Aircondioner – 2kw
Fridge – 0.5kw
Tv and other equipments – 1 kw

then you need bigger rating than your usage , so you need 5kw Grid tie inverter.

Offtopic:
what is the cost of 150 watt panel ?
is it mono or poly crystalline ?
Any subsidy ?

As mono is high efficient and little costly, but in our country guys selling poly in the price of mono https://cdn3.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_sad.gif
here (in chennai) we’re getting 50 rs/watt in poly without any subsidy, have to find subsidy priced solar panel selling shop.

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@desibuddy You forgot to tag @hackerboys https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif

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@desibuddy You forgot to tag @hackerboys https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_toungueout.gif


oh..yeah https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif
Thanks you done it..

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oh..yeah https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_rolleyes.gif
Thanks you done it..



Check chat. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

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@hackerboys wrote:

@pikkuboss wrote:

Yes It can be, but just for experiment, not for household use. Say suddenly cloud appeared in the sky, electricity will be discontinued. Electricity will be discontinued at night. So it cant be used for household purpose. There will be a voltage up-down, Battery is a must.


bro i already have electricity connection in my house , if there are clouds then i will get supply thru electricity connection ..

can we use any device for voltage up down .


A friend has completely gone off grid with solar cells on terrace of his bungalow at Talegaon near Pune he was also saying he was working on selling the electricity when taljed about it 3 years back.
have sent him a whatsapp message. will have details on Monday. There is motoday2016 on 18-19 june at lavasa so he will be there for 2 days.

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Hello

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Contact UJAAS ENERGY. They will help you in all your rooftop solar needs.

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No idea about solar inverter, my hacker boy! We are using Amaron standard inverter here in our place. Going good for more than two years now. Don’t know if they make solar ones.

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Call up all of them and give detailed requirement then take a quote. You cannot place order directly with company.
Buying from distributor will not get you technical expertise in installation neither after sales service.
So have to buy it from a retailer company who can service it locally. Its not the same as a regular inverter since solar cells are involved.

For saving some money you have to build courage to get on roof every few months to clean the array. Interesting initially but boring after 1 Year.

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