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Recently found this video. A must see by every true Indian. Indians were way ahead of every country by thousands of year.
But pity is now a days our people mock the traditional approach and believe in false propoganda by Britishers. They tried and mostly succeeded in that attempt. We have forgotten the benefits of our own traditional, spiritual, ritual means. Time to wake up before it is too late. People say yoga and meditation are waste, old ayurvedic techniques are waste. Only modern science is everything but remember it is now getting proven and approved by those same western society who mocked us. Pls try to see with open mind.

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I went to this neighborhood dentist once, n he recommended some ayurvedic toothpaste, some powder n what not. i gave my honest try. but i was bleeding by the end of the week. Like as if I havent brushed that whole week. so went back to my usual colgate.

what u said abt homeopathy is right, they are excellent. they r excellent with sales pitch, marketing, packaging except the content

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Harish.agarwal wrote:

I went to this neighborhood dentist once, n he recommended some ayurvedic toothpaste, some powder n what not. i gave my honest try. but i was bleeding by the end of the week. Like as if I havent brushed that whole week. so went back to my usual colgate.

what u said abt homeopathy is right, they are excellent, with sales pitch, marketing, packaging just not the content

Not everything is authentic these days. Every second person is just minting money in name of ayurveda and organic. You have got the fake product surely. Try vicco vajradanti and dabur, they are best. Even your Colgate started to follow Indian methods.
And have you seen the above video?

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Alexios wrote:

Not everything is authentic these days. Every second person is just minting money in name of ayurveda and organic. You have got the fake product surely. Try vicco vajradanti and dabur, they are best. Even your Colgate started to follow Indian methods.
And have you seen the above video?

I have seen the above video & I say it is just another one of those feel good program which is ok for some casual stress relive but that’s it. Now coming to your “A must see by every true Indian. Indians were way ahead of every country by thousands of year.” that is just propaganda. It is exactly this kind of thought that will never let India rise above China. 10000 years ago India might have been ahead but also see what it was competing against. You don’t compare a engineer knowledge to a 10th pass to show you are much knowledgeable,you compare it to another engineer. If you want to compare ayurveda & yoga then compare against similar traditional medicine systems of other nations & similar medication techniques like Zen,Tai chi etc. Do not compare them against AI,genetic engineering,quantum computing etc in which India is far behind the leaders.

In the end here is something which every “true Indian” should know. There is a myth of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datt...ya whose 24 teachers incl wind,water,fire,fish,child & even a spider. Moral of the story is,you can learn from anything as long as you have an open mind & the motivation to learn. So stop closing your mind & learn from everyone(incl USA,EU,China,Japan & even Pakistan(learn what not to do)).

@bikidas2060 smile learning about markets also incl.

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I have seen the above video & I say it is just another one of those feel good program which is ok for some casual stress relive but that’s it. Now coming to your “A must see by every true Indian. Indians were way ahead of every country by thousands of year.” that is just propaganda. It is exactly this kind of thought that will never let India rise above China. 10000 years ago India might have been ahead but also see what it was competing against. You don’t compare a engineer knowledge to a 10th pass to show you are much knowledgeable,you compare it to another engineer. If you want to compare ayurveda & yoga then compare against similar traditional medicine systems of other nations & similar medication techniques like Zen,Tai chi etc. Do not compare them against AI,genetic engineering,quantum computing etc in which India is far behind the leaders.

In the end here is something which every “true Indian” should know. There is a myth of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datt...ya whose 24 teachers incl wind,water,fire,fish,child & even a spider. Moral of the story is,you can learn from anything as long as you have an open mind & the motivation to learn. So stop closing your mind & learn from everyone(incl USA,EU,China,Japan & even Pakistan(learn what not to do)).

@bikidas2060 smile learning about markets also incl.

That is your opinion. You clearly not watched or grasped what person is telling in the video. Even though our ancient people were living as saints or monks. But they were scientist, engineer, astrophysicist, physicist, doctor and everything a modern science can coin the term for. This was the real agenda of Britishers that everyone just follow their methods, accept their study methods, teachings as number one. I don’t blame anyone for this but our own people who accepted this.
You can accept or not but gurukul system was the best one with holistic development approach of student and that made them aware of every discovery, methods etc. which western countries are now proving and slowly patenting as their own.

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guest_999 wrote:

I have seen the above video & I say it is just another one of those feel good program which is ok for some casual stress relive but that’s it. Now coming to your “A must see by every true Indian. Indians were way ahead of every country by thousands of year.” that is just propaganda. It is exactly this kind of thought that will never let India rise above China. 10000 years ago India might have been ahead but also see what it was competing against. You don’t compare a engineer knowledge to a 10th pass to show you are much knowledgeable,you compare it to another engineer. If you want to compare ayurveda & yoga then compare against similar traditional medicine systems of other nations & similar medication techniques like Zen,Tai chi etc. Do not compare them against AI,genetic engineering,quantum computing etc in which India is far behind the leaders.

In the end here is something which every “true Indian” should know. There is a myth of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datt...ya whose 24 teachers incl wind,water,fire,fish,child & even a spider. Moral of the story is,you can learn from anything as long as you have an open mind & the motivation to learn. So stop closing your mind & learn from everyone(incl USA,EU,China,Japan & even Pakistan(learn what not to do)).

@bikidas2060 smile learning about markets also incl.

Also I am not against learning, we must learn every good from anyone. But should not forget our roots and mock everything that was told already by our ancestors.

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That is your opinion. You clearly not watched or grasped what person is telling in the video. Even though our ancient people were living as saints or monks. But they were scientist, engineer, astrophysicist, physicist, doctor and everything a modern science can coin the term for. This was the real agenda of Britishers that everyone just follow their methods, accept their study methods, teachings as number one. I don’t blame anyone for this but our own people who accepted this.
You can accept or not but gurukul system was the best one with holistic development approach of student and that made them aware of every discovery, methods etc. which western countries are now proving and slowly patenting as their own.

Then I will return your words,that is also just your opinion. Finally as they say, haanth kangan ko aarsi kya,padhe likhe ko faarsi kya. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-ha... Bye.

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Then I will return your words,that is also just your opinion. Finally as they say, haanth kangan ko aarsi kya,padhe likhe ko faarsi kya. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-of-ha... Bye.

Totally agree with you. Everyone has their own option and thoughts. I just shared the video for some info and knowledge. That is the only purpose. Thanks for your opinion.

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I have seen the above video & I say it is just another one of those feel good program which is ok for some casual stress relive but that’s it. Now coming to your “A must see by every true Indian. Indians were way ahead of every country by thousands of year.” that is just propaganda. It is exactly this kind of thought that will never let India rise above China. 10000 years ago India might have been ahead but also see what it was competing against. You don’t compare a engineer knowledge to a 10th pass to show you are much knowledgeable,you compare it to another engineer. If you want to compare ayurveda & yoga then compare against similar traditional medicine systems of other nations & similar medication techniques like Zen,Tai chi etc. Do not compare them against AI,genetic engineering,quantum computing etc in which India is far behind the leaders.

In the end here is something which every “true Indian” should know. There is a myth of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datt...ya whose 24 teachers incl wind,water,fire,fish,child & even a spider. Moral of the story is,you can learn from anything as long as you have an open mind & the motivation to learn. So stop closing your mind & learn from everyone(incl USA,EU,China,Japan & even Pakistan(learn what not to do)).

@bikidas2060 smile learning about markets also incl.

Haha. Bhai India was really really advanced 10000 years ago. I will give proper evidence.
1) Vedic Period is from (1500-500) BCE, I copied this stuck_out_tongue, I should remember them though, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_...od in comparison to this Rome started in 753 BC to 27 BC and 64 AD to 1453 AD. Greeks also developed from in there some where, I am not really sure, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_ancie... . So, we are really ancient. When I see things from The Vedas, I always think, how come someone write such beautiful things. I mean, if one is not civilized enough then how come one think of these things. Nobody wrote The Vedas. As a rite of passage, it got transferred from Gurus to Sishyas. These days we have internet, cars, trains. At those times people traveled with bare feet, soldiers on horses and kings on chariots. And one had to navigate the ocean with no modern instrument. And people lived that phase. Certainly we can’t compare today’s scenario with them. But, whatever was at their disposal they made full utilization of that. At those time, Romans were indulged in Orgies, Amphitheater killing scenes. Well Amphitheater stuff happened latter in their time line. Which can be depicted as real life Games of thrones episodes.
2) Ayurveda and Yoga is different than Zen, Tai Chi. Yoga is the Origin. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Buddh... . Basically Nobody knows the origin of Bodhirama, some say he is south Indian, some says he is a westerner/Parsian. He got his Buddhism teaching and eventually settled into Shaolin monastery, in China. At the end of 5th Century Zen adherents enter Vietnam. smile Zen is associated with Buddism. And Buddhism is originated from a Hindu Prince. Tai Chi is also associated with Buddhism. And bhai I don’t know, where it originated from. Basically, everyone was fighting back then, like today. Maybe out of need one had to develop it. Some Zen/ Monk, was wise enough to observe its effects on body, mind and spirit and that’s it. We have our holistic approach towards health in the similar way. For example we practice/ used to Practice under a Guru when we were 1000s year in the past of course, and used to eat healthy, used to do certain things/ ritual that are beneficiary to our whole being.
3) I see Hindu, Muslims and Christians. We say our people are not smart enough. We see a stone of certain shape, we bow to it. See, a person Sai Baba came, and instilled Islamic things with Hinduism and mixed it and see today we have a lot of Sai Bhakts. I am not criticizing anyone’s belief. I mean we respect people’s believe. I mean both Christianity and Islamic influences are also very old. Why don’t they have such acceptance of belief that’s foreign to them. They are like if you don’t believe this, then you are a blasphemer. They used to execute blasphemers. Muslims still execute blasphemers. Christians don’t do it anymore much to a lot of people’s chagrin. I have not seen a Hindu being executed by another Hindu for following something spiritual. Here we have Aghoris, who eat dead bodies, fecal matter, drink out of skulls because they follow Lord Shiva ardently, here also we have Vaishnavas, who don’t eat meat and onions and garlic etc. Here we have Shakti worshippers, we have Sun worshippes. I think you are aware of Aditya Hrudayam Stotram, it is originally in Ramayana written by Valmiki but is hugely popular over the country.
We worship both Penis (Lingam) and Vagina (Yoni) in temple, openly. I mean these things date back older than Vatsayana’s Kamasutra. Female empowerment was at its peak, example of Ranis and Princesses are written in history. Maybe some thing are fabricated there to appease the kings and queens but yet people accepted that. Today we say a girl became a cricketer, people ll say she looks like a Lesbian or something. Lesbian is fine, but using it as a derogatory way is bad.
Ayurveda is a very old documented medicine system. I mean there was a reason students used to come to India from abroad. It is either for The Vedas, or the Yoga, or the Ayurveda or our beautiful spicy Spices. At the time of discovery of India, the whole world, including Spaniards, Dutch, Portuguese, English folks sent their voyages in treacherous Ocean route. Silk Route traders dominated the world spice market. I think Google bawa can give better explanations than I can. I believe we were really great till 1000 years ago. Well, if you do something well and then you will have enemies. Like stock market everything has its origin, rise and its demise. We are demised. Whatever remnants of us are left are still surprising the world.
We invented Zero and algebra. We invented some important Geometric theorems. Ramanujan calculated the value of Pi accurately to more places than anyone else. Michio Kaku, the physics popularizer and string theorist, in his 1994 pop physics book Hyperspace, there’s a section on the emphasis of the number 24 in Ramanujan’s modular functions and what implications it possibly has on string theory (the most famous contender for a Theory Of Everything in Physics) and the existence of 10 (or even 26!) dimensions it claims that exist in the universe) Source (https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-real-world-a...). https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1... ,

(QUANTUM BLACK HOLES An encounter between Hawking and Ramanujan by Atish Dabholkar). Well Ramanujan was a devotee worshiper. What he achieved by that time without any proper materials and sources are still being used today. We are not behind in development. It is just either our talents migrated from India and have started ruling somewhere else or are just rotting n India’s toxic environment.
And bhai you are right. We can’t keep on reminisce over the past and keep on saying that we were this, we were that is not going to any good. We are still alive without fighting with each other, well we fight, yet we are still united if something bad happens to our country. But the whole mass is waiting for that day of redemption. We need a cleanse, we need a cathartic release. We are being suffocated daily by routine mundane pressure of stupid values of life. It will change. It has to change.

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Alexios wrote:

That is your opinion. You clearly not watched or grasped what person is telling in the video. Even though our ancient people were living as saints or monks. But they were scientist, engineer, astrophysicist, physicist, doctor and everything a modern science can coin the term for. This was the real agenda of Britishers that everyone just follow their methods, accept their study methods, teachings as number one. I don’t blame anyone for this but our own people who accepted this.
You can accept or not but gurukul system was the best one with holistic development approach of student and that made them aware of every discovery, methods etc. which western countries are now proving and slowly patenting as their own.

uncle ji, then invent a time machine using the same technology. go back to what ever period that suits u. u don’t belong here pensive

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uncle ji, then invent a time machine using the same technology. go back to what ever period that suits u. u don’t belong here pensive

Thanks Dada ji, same applies to you.

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I went to this neighborhood dentist once, n he recommended some ayurvedic toothpaste, some powder n what not. i gave my honest try. but i was bleeding by the end of the week. Like as if I havent brushed that whole week. so went back to my usual colgate.

what u said abt homeopathy is right, they are excellent. they r excellent with sales pitch, marketing, packaging except the content

uncle ji, then invent a time machine using the same technology. go back to what ever period that suits u. u don’t belong here pensive

Dude admit it … you have something against Indian culture – anti Ayurveda, anti Modi from Telangana wink

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Dude admit it … you have something against Indian culture – anti Ayurveda, anti Modi from Telangana wink

no, I’m anti-BS. yahan present ke L lage hain, or ye uncle ji past dikha rahein hai

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no, I’m anti-BS. yahan present ke L lage hain, or ye uncle ji past dikha rahein hai

Hahahaha…only one who knows everything can make such claim …otherwise its just a rant. Something you don’t know or just have an opinion is like blind man talking of light.

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