Will you buy Made in India and Indian Brands , Swadesi Movement from Now on to Boost our Economy .

Yes

Yes,
But make a list of what not to buy

Nah

Yes thinking to throw away my PC ,mobile because it contains Chinese components.

Also few more appliances like Refrigerator,Air conditioner,my TV,STB ,and also some furniture like chair and tables.

Hail make in India.

At the end it’s all bout the quality of the product… If it’s as good as other country product why not ppl will buy… Since v r the most scam creating country in the world , what you want will never happen!

Why not, if its in the right quality and right price (i.e. Quality should be proportional to the price I pay, I am ready to pay higher but I should get something better)
But not otherwise

People buying Chinese products. Do they really think about quality.
By the way india does produce best quality in many segments , else there would have been no exports.
Many times mostly the cream is exported or sold to big brands.
We Indians are Just Price Sensitive and most ic the time don’t believe in our brands itself.
Imported outdated Crap gets digested by us instantly.

People are ready to pay a small premium for swadeshi goods provided the quality matches and the service is better. However if swadeshi brands expect people to opt for them over cheaper better quality products then they are dreaming.

govt. should help small manufacturers,some not even aware how to start even having funds to invest,technology come too late in india,even cheap products from china having good finishing

even thing like auto parts,iron,fan which small manufacturer can manufacture comes from china because they are superior in finishing

I buy whatever posted on Desidime, if all swadeshi products are posted on DD then I will buy swadeshi only.

but very difficult to think of anyone who makes everything at home with indian brains.. as far as electronics are concerned

Chinese kanti(kill), how many of u use? Lol idk English of kanti

….If you can’t beat them Join them…

@Common-man thanks for bringing this topic out. Have you ever wondered how supportive our government is towards manufacturing sector in India when compared to other rapidly developing/developed nations. Studied the ease of doing business in India?

We live in a nation that has bureaucrats harassing manufacturers for their own benefit. Even the biggies to the likes of Tata and Kia had to mend ways to adhere to selfish demands. We do not have 24×7 power supply to industries, we do not have tax benefits for upcoming industries and even if there is one, the benefits are not passed until 4 to 5 years which is pointless. On top of that, the excellent and mindless abrupt implementation of demonetisation and GST only to cripple the economy further. I am not against either of them but against the way it has been implemented. A blow after blow after blow to manufacturing sector and here we are, talking about supporting Indian brands. Who wouldn’t want to? First let the support come from the Government and then the citizens shall respond as well.

If we can keep our ego and the current covid scenario aside for a while. Having worked with Chinese manufacturers before I am aware of how extensive the support provided by government is in China to improve manufacturing, we can only dream of such support in India. They grew so rapidly because they worked hard collectively and made it happen, they didn’t pull it out of thin air all of a sudden.

Walk through the industrial areas here in India, it’s such a pity state that most places do not even have proper roads for connectivity making logistics easy. No proper power supply etc.

Would be glad if you can give your views on improving indigenous manufacturing first and also government’s support for the same.

Anyone would go a mile to support Indian brands but don’t expect them to go several miles just to blindly support Indian brands. We live in a global economy where boundaries are shrinking. It’s simply survival of the fittest, one can’t play the ‘Being Desi’ card to push sales, rather create a product worth it to improve sales.

Please refrain from saying we can’t afford good quality products. That’s the case with any and every nation, products of good quality as well as products of inferior quality sells. When premium/luxury brands are able to sell in India why wouldn’t an India brand offering similar products we able to sell? Does our affordability drop when and Indian brand is under contention?

As our work is related to manufacturing sector I shall list a few concerns that I could recollect.
1. No proper roads making logistics a pain
2. No 24×7 power supply
3. Housing expands to industrial areas and industries that have been established since 3 decades or so asked to relocate without any benefits provided.
4. VAT (now GST) refund delayed for newly set up industries
5. Solar energy subsidy delayed (specific to sector)
6. Demonetisation crippled small scale industries which crippled mid scale industries
7. Harassment by officials by accusing of false charges so as to pay bribe, it comes from sales tax offices, power department, property tax and what not. Everyone’s tummy has to be filled else your business is hampered.
8. GST filing turning out to be a pain for small scale firms who can’t afford premium services of good CAs
9. Improper structure of GST making it difficult for few firms to claim GST as input credit (mostly fixed now after the damage has been done).

Fed up with Same topics and discussions again and again.
No one will spend their hard earned money on sub par quality products/service (no matter which country, person, race, is selling it)
If a product/service is good and maintaining same standards, then they don’t have to beg for sales.

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iPhone is often cited in example everywhere. Read this about iPhone 7 manufacturing -

Who really makes the iPhone?

Let’s examine an iPhone 7 a little more closely to see how much value China is actually getting.

Start with the most valuable components that make up an iPhone: the touch screen display, memory chips, microprocessors and so on. They come from a mix of U.S., Japanese, Korean and Taiwanese companies, such as Intel, Sony, Samsung and Foxconn. Almost none of them are manufactured in China. Apple buys the components and has them shipped to China; then they leave China inside an iPhone.

So what about all of those famous factories in China with millions of workers making iPhones? The companies that own those factories, including Foxconn, are all based in Taiwan. Of the factory-cost estimate of $237.45 from IHS Markit at the time the iPhone 7 was released in late 2016, we calculate that all that’s earned in China is about $8.46, or 3.6 percent of the total. That includes a battery supplied by a Chinese company and the labor used for assembly.

The other $228.99 goes elsewhere. The U.S. and Japan each take a roughly $68 cut, Taiwan gets about $48, and a little under $17 goes to South Korea. And we estimate that about $283 of gross profit from the retail price – about $649 for a 32GB model when the phone debuted – goes straight to Apple’s coffers.

In short, China gets a lot of (low-paid) jobs, while the profits flow to other countries.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/china-makes-8-...

Selective buying can have an effect on biggest economies of world..

Rather than preaching others start from yourself as @Amolverma.6 suggested throw away your PC mobile and AC and jio Sim and phone and start using BSNL landline with aakash tablet and lava smartphone

No one is retard enough to buy a product to support their respective nation, India or otherwise, it’s always the quality of the product that matters and that alone should.

Do it yourself exercise

Aap aankh band karo aur just imagine… Come on man, socho socho..

Ek taraf khadi hai Pamela aur ek taraf Pramila

Ab dil se pooch ke bataao – Videshi ya Swadeshi?

Note – Iska 👆👆 jawaab dene ki jaroorat nahin hai, kyunki dil ki Baat dil hi Jaane

🙏🙏 Jai Ram Ji Ki🙏🙏

We should buy from Indian companies wherever possible. May be they will expand their business in other segments when they have money.

In corona pandemic, only desi companies contributed to india in big way. Videshi companies/persons did meagre contributions.

in which century bro

Those who work in non made in India company. What will they face if we don’t buy from them? Consequence will be large if all follow only Indian product.

Yaha kuch nahi hone wala bhaya, sab log (vast majority) on DD are like → do as I say, not as I do

Coming back to the topic at hand, it’s simple math more manufacturing in India means more jobs & less profits going to China as simple as that. Do the vast majority of people know why China is in a position they are in today? Govt “support” will only take you so far, China mandated tech transfer in vast majority of areas when foreign firms started to set up base there. They also mandated that these companies had to open a local JV with minority (49%) stake, the majority Chinese partner would in the end get the tech they needed to compete by hook or by crook. The likes of Siemens, Bosch, Toyota, JLR have been burnt by China stealing their tech or copying the designs. China also systemically discriminates against foreign entities, unlike most other nations around the world including India. For people talking about who’d prefer inferior stuff, they’re either ignorant or have not been following China over the past two decades it seems! Why do you think China effectively barred US companies from entry, including the likes of Google, FB, twitter?

It was obviously to make sure that they had their own companies catering to the domestic market. Heck they used BS rules flouting WTO norms to make sure US tech giants didn’t get a foothold in China, the likes of eBay & Amazon simply couldn’t compete against the govt funded or backed entities. Let’s not even go to Huawei or ZTE, they blatantly stole from Nokia, Ericcson etc. The same is happening with Made in China 2025 → wherein they plan to be self sufficient in hi tech manufacturing by 2025. Also made in China, right now, doesn’t imply Made by Chinese tech. The panels have mostly Japanese or Korean tech, NAND or DRAM is sourced from the behemoths in Japan or SK, processors are mostly made in Taiwan or US while the rest of the low level stuff like PCB, batteries (yes they’re relatively low level tech) are from China.

I always dawdle at “masters of loot” on DD who claim they have 100’s or 1000’s of Amazon, Paytm. Paypal accounts as if it’s something to boast about. There was just a recent thread (by a lady?) who said she had multiple Amazon accounts created on other’s numbers, without the SIM owner knowing, & wanted to use the money in the wallet without OTP. Where the heck do you you think the “loot” comes from → sure as heck not from the corrupt politicians pockets! It comes from the common man, the street vendors, the hawker who many on DD claim to care about but obviously give no 2 effs in real life. When it comes to money & hypocrisy, Indians are in a league of their own. At least elsewhere people know that some of the blame lies within themselves. Coming here on DD it would seem as if everyone is doodh ke dhule, swach, pavitra attma

If you have a choice between 1000/- China made product & something of a similar quality but costing 1200/- though made in India, I know what the vast majority here would prefer. Stop blaming ever effin thing on the govt or politicians or bureaucrats or businessmen! When you don’t pay legit taxes, like IT (that one example I gave in the other thread of plot owners minting profits from semi rural areas) or importing stuff from China using “gifts” or many shop owners who still sell things without a bill → you are no better than the ones you put the blame on!

A great man, unarguably our greatest freedom fighter IMO said this → We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.

But he let’s moan & groan because everything is already made in China & we can do jack about it. The bottom line is it’s all about the jobs, China didn’t start OBOR because of the goodness of their heart → they did it exactly for the reasons why they’ve stolen tech from the West or indeed shunned foreign corporations from dominating the market in China. They want jobs & they want their companies making profits, not the vast majority of them being expatriated.

As for DD >_> two thumbs up to people here who claim to care about their fellow Indians but would rather enjoy blaming their govts & enjoying cheap Chinese stuff, instead of supporting ways or means to improve job growth so truly do as I say not as I do indeed

Aur Pamela waale baba, aap mahan hai ab aapke baare me kya kahe

@ Common-man
I kind of like your topic. But I would really likely to know what exactly you mean by Swadeshi. Perhaps you could prepare a list of 20 specific points that you are going to do so the rest of us can decide whether or not to follow you? Please note, this is not a trick question. I usually do not agree with many of your viewpoints but in this case I do want to know how we can help our country. This request of mine is also because in this age of globalization, I personally am very confused about the relevance of Swadeshi (I quite understood the concept of Swadeshi as it existed in the time of Gandhiji but I do not understand it now). So yours and other viewpoints can perhaps enlighten confused people like me

In addition to the list of 20 points, perhaps you could help clear some confusion. Please note even though I use the word government, I’m not trying to be political and I would appreciate if others kept it the same way
1) What is the goal of Swadeshi? Is it to
-Increase the coffers of the government
-Increase the profits of PSUs (these are after all owned by the country)
-Increase the profits of so called “Indian” companies?
-Increase the wealth of Indian industrialists?
-Increase the wealth of owners of medium and small enterprises?
-Increase the wealth of workers who labour in these industries?
-Increase the wealth of workers in the informal economy?

2) Do you believe that the privatization of PSUs goes against the Swadeshi principle? Will you raise your voice against it?

3) Do you believe Indian companies fit the definition of Swadeshi when a significant chunk of them is owned by companies or institutional investors based outside the country?

4) Do you believe in supporting Indian companies
-That sell re-branded foreign goods
-That are only assembling foreign components to create products

5) What is your take on foreign companies like Walmart and Amazon who are throwing tonnes of foreign money into India and in the process benefiting Indian consumers (lower prices), the government (more taxes are paid when we buy from these platforms than from traders who do not give us bills), millions of packers, delivery agents and CS agents whose lifestyle has improved from jobs generated by these platforms? Please do not give the argument that they will kill off all competition and then raise prices. It would be interesting to know where this has happened in the last 20 years in retail, because in the same period I’ve seen cartelization and monopolies in the cement industry (I think so, I could be wrong) and in the telecom sector and the companies behind it have been Indian

6) Do you believe in enriching the owners of Indian companies in the following cases
-When they are traders who do not pay taxes?
-When they are “industrialists” (small, medium, large) who fund their personal lifestyle using the company account and when things go bust, bank depositors like me are left holding the crumbs while the so called industrialists fund their lifestyle with a new set of companies
-When they are intimately associated with people who are targeting specific segments of the Indian population based on religion, food habits and caste grouping. Let us not close our eyes and pretend this isn’t happening because it is

Finally some specific questions for you (I am not talking about phones and other appliances because I don’t really seen the “Indian-ness” in any of these segments. So I will restrict myself to certain instances where for me at least the distinction is clear about what is more Swadeshi (feel free to disagree)
-Will you give up your Jio/Idea/Vodafone/Airtel connection and use only BSNL/MTNL (what could be more Swadeshi than something that is owned by the country itself?)
-Will you buy foodstuff from women in SHGs from marginalised communities as opposed to something like Haldiram’s or chain type sweet marts (even though you know the women may not always stick to so called “clean-room” policies)
-Will you buy locally made biscuits from some small “no name” brand as opposed to a better brand like ITC?
-Will you give up your vehicle and travel exclusively by public transport because after all what could be more important than improving the finances of state owned road transport corporations so they get more money, can wipe of their high debts and buy more buses to serve more people

So you can probably tell from the examples, I am probably not at all clear what exactly “Swadeshi” means today

P.S.
Sometimes my writing style makes it appear that I’m personally attacking someone. I give you my word, I’m not. So please read accordingly

P.P.S.
I will read your response but will most probably not respond because I don’t want to be drawn into a war of words. I don’t have the time for that. So, thank you, in advance, for your response

Question Ek ..Faida Anek!
Everyone wants their share…
Who is everyone here is the question+answer everyone should realize

India banaye Micromax.. Jo 2 month Nahi chalata

The so called…much hyped “Make-in-India” campaign’s only target was making India “Global Manufacturing Hub”
Even though it did succeed in making companies like Xiaomi, Oppo, Apple, LG & … setup their own manufacturing/assembling plants in India…It did nothing to the Indian Companies to encourage them to make better quality products in any way
Even for the world’s famous “IKEA” ..India has been the largest supplier for raw material/end-products for decades yet the quality of products sold by Indian companies was never comparable..why?
Yet…People post shitty posts like these
1. Ban Chinese
2. Only buy Swadeshi
3. As long as a company is owned by a foreign company…“MII means Nothing”

For sure there is talent, people here are hard working but where is the infrastructure?
Where are the Indian companies (supported by XYZ government) to provide that infrastructure?
When companies like Apple, Xiaomi, Oppo can source majority of electronic components locally and operate their manufacturing plants here + maintain quality
..why can’t the Indian companies do it? (provided with motivation from the concerned sources?)
If we have everything..there is no need to look for something elsewhere..you purchase stuff from AliExpress in the sense…there are too many products that you couldn’t source anywhere locally (even the majority cities).
There is no need to buy water from a French company..you can purchase them locally and you wouldn’t notice a thing. Like wise, if the quality standards can be maintained w/ compartive features ..why would anyone have a problem considering “Swadeshi” products ? (even if the price is a bit higher)