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Zerodha or Upstox ( RKSV )

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topgear

Please help me decide which one to go for. Mainly I’m looking for :

1. Ease of opening an account.
2. Least possible charges overall anually
3. Relibily of the website or app
4. Other options or feature I should be aware about.

Btw, Can anyone also give me a little idea about Future and Options and Comodity trading in simple english biggrin Fir now I’ll stick with Equity trading only to play safe.

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Generous Generous
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Even I was contemplating opening an account in the name of a family member for IPOs and came across the below link. Also RKSV account opening form said that account can be opened in minutes without the need of sending documents if we verify through aadhar OTP. Just do some further research/seek clarification about the charges. I don’t see any difference between Zerodha/RKSV in terms of brokerage/charges but their trading platforms might be different. I personally use RKSV and mostly use their Upstox app which I find it really good. Can easily use on the move and has a bunch of features (not comparing with zerodha because I really don’t know how it its). But I believe zerodha is big compared to RKSV (a criteria for trusting the brokerages) but RKSV can now be trusted easily as they are not running away anytime soon.

http://www.chittorgarh.com/stockbroker/rksv-sec...

If you are considering discount brokerages it is better to stick with these two (even though other brokerages offer unlimited plans). Also remember you can’t apply for OFS through these discount brokers and mostly 3-in-1 brokerages like SBI capsec, ICICI provide that facility.

In simple english you can avoid FnO and commodity and stick to cash trades be it intra day/short term. Once you get to know that you will learn about others eventually.

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Okay, Thanks for all the info. As you have said you have an account with RKSV can you answer few of my questions :

1. Account Opening Charges
2. Annual Maintenance Charges ( Zerodha charges Rs. 300 )
3. As I’ll stick with equity trading only ( and need to open a demat account ) a bank account statement is really necessary for RKSV ?
4. My mobile number is not linked with my AAdhar so I need to manually send the forms ( and other documents ) to RKSV .. so please help me with the their account opening charges ( Zerodha charges Rs. 400 here )
5. After sending the documents how long it takes for RKSV to open my trading and demat account ?
6. Demat account opening charges ?

Generous Generous
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When I opened an account some 10 months back they had some introductory offer and everything including demat AMC is free for me. For other charges you need to contact them and clarify.

A bank account is definitely necessary but they won’t expect you to send them any bank attested copies (self-attestation maybe required). You can just take a simple printout from net banking and send it to them.

Now they claim they would process the application in 3-5 days if everything is in order. They took 2 weeks for me 10 months back.

Read the link I have mentioned in my previous post for some more info. Though the website claims the below charges (none actually) it is better to ask RKSV Customer support. Thy are quite helpful

RKSV Brokerage Charges 2016

Trading Account Opening Charges (One Time): Nil
Trading Annual maintenance charges (AMC): Nil
Demat account Opening Charges (One Time): Nil
Demat Account Annual Maintenance Charges (AMC): Nil

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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OKay got some info. RKSV now charges Rs. 350 for account opening and Rs. 300 annually for AMC of Demat account.

So now it all comes to the platform reliability. Hear that trading on zerodha platform has bugs and glitches for whch many issues arise. But I think lots of dimers here are trading with zerodha and these bugs can be fixed with update always. So help me with how stable is zerodha’s trading platform now.

Also how good is Share Khan ?

Generous Generous
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Found this page which says no Maintenance Charge. Did you ask their customer care or was it from some web post?

https://upstox.com/demat-ac...t/

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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i also planned to open in zerodha or rksv.

@topgear
better we go with rksv ??

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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My mind says RKSV but heart says Zerodha https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_biggrin.gif

We can decide if some senior dimers can help us out regarding this or who has accounts with both of them. Let’s wait a bit and help each other with all the infos we can get.

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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Hey all,

I work at Upstox and came across this thread. Those knowledge base articles are outdated. We don’t charge any fees for account opening or for annual maintenance charges.

Extremely sorry for any misinformation communicated through those links. We’ve gotten them fixed right away.

Cheers and happy trading.

Generous Generous
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Thanks for the info

@topgear

@desibuddy

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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The transaction charges (charged as a % per crore of your transaction – in F&O or commodities, you can trade a few crores in intra day even if you own just few thousand rupees) is a killer with all these brokerages.

I remember reading that this %age is based on brokerage’s total daily transactions with the exchange. It reduces as the total volume goes up. But these brokerages charge the max slab even though their volumes qualify for offering lower slabs to their customer – there by pocketing the excess charged.

With intraday trading, while 0rs or 20rs per order brokerage looks cheap, and you execute plenty of orders with a hope of earning a lot of money, you will be shocked to see your total outflow as various charges/taxes can run into 1000s. And, if you are on the losing trades, you can visualise how much it would cost you.. Basically, make sure you understand all charges & use the brokerage calculator to understand the underlying “total cost of trade” (at least i

Benevolent Benevolent
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i prefer zerodha …
rksv and zerodha r both equally good..

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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Hi,

Yesterday i opened the account with RSKV (Upstox) with the help of adahar details. and the process is very smooth.

Below is the mail which i received from RSKV with the required details.
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Dear Adarsh Kumar ,

Welcome to RKSV, India’s leading broking firm with over 35,000+ clients contributing to a daily turnover of over $1 billion (7000 Crores) across all major exchanges in India.

Here’s some information on us!

Promotional Offers

Free A/C opening and no AMC for lifetime.

Brokerage

Equity Delivery is Free for lifetime and Brokerage for Equity intraday / Future / Currency would be Rs. 20 per order traded or 0.01%.
Brokerage for Option would be Rs. 20 per order traded.
Technology

We’ve got the best mobile app in the country: Upstox Pro Mobile.
Never download desktop trading software ever again! Upstox Pro Web allows you to trade right on your favorite browser.
Tools

Margin against shares to help you pledge your shares and trade with us.
Trading tools Brokerage calculator and Span Calculator will tell you how much you save on brokerage.
Margins

4x exposure on Futures and CDS segments.
15x exposure on NSE Cash/Equity, 20x exposure on BSE Cash/Equity.
4x exposure on intraday for selling options (SPAN + Exposure margin).
Enjoy higher intraday leverage through Cover Orders and Bracket Orders.
Education

Visit Knowledge Base to lean more about RKSV.
Visit Trade Academy to educate yourself on trading strategies.
Referral Program

Our referral program helps you earn 10% of all referee income. More details can be found here.

Open your account in 5 minutes!

Visit new.upstox.com
Register yourself!
Go through the account opening pages.
Download and print the forms.
Attach the mandatory proofs as per the list, Click here.
Call us at 022-6130-9999 if you require any assistance in helping you open your account.

Here’s the address you need to courier the forms and the mandatory proofs to:

RKSV Securities India Pvt. Ltd/Upstox

Salasar Business Park,
Off 150 Feet Flyover Road,
Bhayandar West, Thane, Maharashtra 401101
Need Help?

If you have any questions at all, feel free to call us anytime. We’re here to help you!

Simply call 022-6130-9999 or reply to this email.

Click Here to get yourself a brokerage credit of Rs. 500 by getting your application submitted through our E-Aadhar process within 10 minutes!!

Have a great day!
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Hope this is Helpful. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Is demat free for lifetime without AMC in RKSV?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Everybody should Keep in Mind that If Broker Went bankrupt somehow By Margin against shares Possible that U will also in trouble if u have account with them
RKSV is good broker bt do Margin against shares
When Zerodha Dont (they have plan though)

So Prefer Zerodha Brokerage is same and if they charge 300 amc I wouldnt Mind cuz My Lakh of worth holding feeling safe

Although anything happened with ur holding u can claim at NSE upto 15 Lakh

There are many incident where ppl lose their holding bcuz of broker

How does Settlement work at Zerodha?

Settlement of stocks

Unlike traditional brokers, at Zerodha we don’t hold back client stocks in our pool account. This is because currently we don’t offer margin trading facility and hence all the stocks are fully paid for. Whenever our clients buy stocks, they’re transferred to their respective demat accounts. (P.S: We’ll be starting margin trading facility in the future https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_smile.gif). Stocks that require settlement are those pledged by clients as margin for trading F&O.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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i am using icici direct,how is zerodha compared to icici direct?

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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Looking at first quarter 2017 sometime.

Benevolent Benevolent
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Account opening charges, time taken and AMC are nothing to ponder if you are serious in stock trading.
If you think and compare so much about these charges and even brokerage as you are beginner,
I guess it would be difficult for you to digest the shocks stock market gives however careful you are.
So just go with Zerodha/RKSV, experience yourself for few months then change if you do not like.
I execute trades on Zerodha to save brokerage but do watching on IIFL and some tips/recos from ICICI Direct and Angel Broking hence pay them AMC.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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what happens if broker like zerodha or rksv bankrupt?

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Generous Generous
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Risks involved with these discount brokers. Take with a pinch of salt as this article might be paid one because it tries to show a new discount broker “PROSTOCKS” in a good light

http://www.chittorgarh.com/article/prop-trading...

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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Hmm .. will go through that. Thanks for mentioning.

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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I’ve around Rs. 150 is my trading acc. and only transfer funds before buying shares. So I’m good I guess https://cdn1.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_biggrin.gif

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Did u send rksv the papers for power of attorney for selling stocks ?
I have account with rksv, but never used it because, i dont have much time to pass thru this physical forms sending hassles.

Or can u suggest any other platform with all facilities available online unlike upstox (in case of power of attorney)

Does zerodha also require us to physically send any papers ?

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Benevolent Benevolent
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i will prefer ZERODHA

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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R u using zerodha? What are charges for amc ?

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Deal Captain Deal Captain
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Upstox now charging for Opening Trading and Demat Account. Also, Zero AMC Removed. https://cdn2.desidime.com/assets/textile-editor/icon_evil.gif

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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how much are the charges?

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Beacon Beacon
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Every year they r coming with free account opening & amc in December

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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Now everyone is charging for account opening and amc .any suggestions to avoid those charges?

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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i even wanna know same thing

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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why are you all worried about account opening charges. worry about platform , ease of use, reliability etc

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Opened with Prostocks, but not happy. Moved to Zerodha now. Prostocks, android app is not smooth.
Any better than both these then pls suggest.
I want smoothness with Quick execution.

No issues with Amc etc

The PostMighty The PostMighty
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Which one trading platforms are are more easy and reliable?
Upstox or Zerodha

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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Reliable both but interface wise Zerodha best. Have accounts in both ( me and bro ) so I know.

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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I think mobile app of upstox is best in the industry, also heard that zerodha kite is hanging very frequently in recent times. Completely satisfied with upstox.

If you need any help in upstox, pm me.

Tech Guru Tech Guru
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mobile app of upstox is really good and for the advantage point you get to choose themes. On the Other hand kite ( zerodha ) offers also a very good mobile app but only con is no themes but if bright white color is not what you like you can always use invert color option to make the screen dark.

BTW, so far did not faced any hanging issue in either of the apps and used them on different android version and on different smartphone even on custom OS. cheers.

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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I’m done with these two. they are good at glitches.

Pro DealBaba Pro DealBaba
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