Is it Crime to be a Girl Dimer....infact...Is it crime to be a Girl ?
This place(DD) is a Male dominant society and most of the dimers just came out of shell with no face and identity.Not everyone does the same.it happens everywhere.Do not ask me to give statistic’s..With the rise of internet,virtual world is taking it’s toll.And once if a girl is spotted,don’t expect respect.it is your choice how u cope up.It is not sensible to tarnish the whole community.I am not asking you to wear a mask.instead be strong.Know your strength and weakness.I think your words flew out of handle and a special trait that can only be found in women.After all you have released your pent-up frustration.
Please pardon me for posting this pic here. I don’t know why but I remembered this joke while reading your post. It was posted in Sarcasm Society page, so take it as Sarcasm.
@asoka wrote:
This place(DD) is a Male dominant society and most of the dimers just came out of shell with no face and identity.Not everyone does the same.it happens everywhere.Do not ask me to give statistic’s..With the rise of internet,virtual world is taking it’s toll.And once if a girl is spotted,don’t expect anything.Instead female species know better what not to do.Such things are not limited to real world.After all It is all your choice how u cope up.It is not sensible to tarnish the whole community.I am not asking you to wear a mask.instead be strong.Know your strength and weakness.I think your words flew out of handle and a special trait that can only be found in women.After all you have released your pent-up frustration.
I can understand your feeling’s as there was only a single girl in my batch(IIT-B)
You change your thought, some will follow and then some more. Then it will become a trend…then imbibed in the culture. Rome was not built in a Day.
Nothing is constant….Had none raised their voice, India wouldn’t have been independent. Making a move is important.
Being an open forum, we get every opportunity to stop such nuisance. If one is stopped, many other will not do with the fear of same such consequences.
Frustrations give rise to revolution which ultimately emerges as change in the society.
Thanks to @billa ajith @raj0390 @Aarya hope is still alive that one day we will goal our targets.
Must be wondering why these friends are being tagged. It is just because from Day 1 when they knew me to be a girl, they had always referred me as sister in any conversation. Wonderful they are who didn’t expect even thanks from my side for their help saying “it was my responsibility towards you sister as a brother” , this particular sentence was told to me by @billa ajith
So, buddy in short….hope is still there for a better place.
Edit – removed.
@prebhartia All the best for raising awareness about this obvious issue on DD and other internet forums.
But let me be straight with you — you are being too emotional and naive. Here is why I think so:
(1) This is the INTERNET! Flame wars, teasing, and BS (in general) are part of it. Such behavior is common across the genders, including bullying of girls by other girls to such a bad extent that many girls have even committed suicide. I have posted about the ‘Online disinhibition effect’ and the ‘Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory’ in one of your threads earlier. See: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...
(2) You felt better when some users called you sister. You should decide whether you want people to treat you as “good dimer friend” or you find it better to be called a “sister” by some stranger on the internet. I don’t know how old you are or how much life experience you have gained so far, but this seems immature.
While I reserve my comments for future, here’s a quick take.
OP, while I certainly understand your point, may be you are missing the very nature of this universe? i am more talking about the extra attention that you are referring to and not in terms of badging the IQ etc.
DD has been man-place and the infatuation (or call it fascination or un-avoidable attraction or whatevre) between a male and female started from Adam and Eve (if u believe in them or whoever you refer them as in ur belief). So if a female enters the male world, you can imagine the kind of attention they are expected to get. So flirting is no surprise but it shouldnt go over board where the subject feels irritated. I would expect samething if a female dominated forum has some male joinees. And it being virtual world, there’s no fear of tarnishing ones image or impact on identity. So they act at their will or rather by their heart
as i said, will come back with my comments on this
@prebhartia That’s ok if this was for me, Voops not if.. i am sure that was for me, i will try my best from now to keep you out from this and will not tag you anywhere thanks. if you anything more like Don’t reply quote my comments, don’t say me anything you can pm me. and rest assured. @devashi if you also think this. feel free to pm me
@prebhartia wrote:@asoka wrote:
This place(DD) is a Male dominant society and most of the dimers just came out of shell with no face and identity.Not everyone does the same.it happens everywhere.Do not ask me to give statistic’s..With the rise of internet,virtual world is taking it’s toll.And once if a girl is spotted,don’t expect anything.Instead female species know better what not to do.Such things are not limited to real world.After all It is all your choice how u cope up.It is not sensible to tarnish the whole community.I am not asking you to wear a mask.instead be strong.Know your strength and weakness.I think your words flew out of handle and a special trait that can only be found in women.After all you have released your pent-up frustration.
I can understand your feeling’s as there was only a single girl in my batch(IIT-B)
You change your thought, some will follow and then some more. Then it will become a trend…then imbibed in the culture. Rome was not built in a Day.
Nothing is constant….Had none raised their voice, India wouldn’t have been independent. Making a move is important.
Being an open forum, we get every opportunity to stop such nuisance. If one is stopped, many other will not do with the fear of same such consequences.
Frustrations give rise to revolution which ultimately emerges as change in the society.Thanks to @billa ajith @raj0390 @Aarya hope is still alive that one day we will goal our targets.
Must be wondering why these friends are being tagged. It is just because from Day 1 when they knew me to be a girl, they had always referred me as sister in any conversation. Wonderful they are who didn’t expect even thanks from my side for their help saying “it was my responsibility towards you sister as a brother” , this particular sentence was told to me by @billa ajith
So, buddy in short….hope is still there for a better place.
“hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies”
i don’t consider hope simply as an ingredient but to be spontaneous.
Our mind works in a different way.
Maybe lack’s timely response and later lead to regrets.
Remember,It is not the size of the dog in the fight,it is size of the fight in the dog.
I hope it is clear
@DealSeeker She seem’s to be naive,but she spoke her heart out.“Dil toh bacha hein g”
@newdduser experienced the same with Tinder app
You are definately right we do want female dimers to come up but i dont see them often enough they are hidden or what? they dont comment often we dont see them in intro i want female dimers those who are there to comment more introduce yourself make us feel this is obvious.I know there is much much more scope for female dimers here because most of the husbands here are just because of their wives
It reminds me my days in collage, the scene was same …
This type of comment coming from you is undesirable. In fact I was prepared to face this type of comment specially when it must have hurt male ego. I dont know if you fall in the category of thinking flirting-cool type of behaviour or so. I know of all this statistic of what is the position of girls in the society and have internet facility too 24*7 to get more knowledge on this. Google can always make me know more than you.This thread is more about hoping a change in the society and making people aware of what I am personally witnessing and seeing with other girls dimer on DD.
Regarding your comment on being called as sister, I donot agree to you on this too. I do not think I am naive on this . At least being called a sister is better than being called Time pass, “Cheez” , " Maal". I have highlighting on two extremist thinking. Better stay neutral, thats mid way. Actually I do not expect anything from any dimer. Just respect others work be it girl or guy.
Lastly, I am happy that I raised this issue. There are as many pms from girl dimers as comments from you guys here thanking me to voice this issue. So, I had rightly caught the issue . They do not want to reveal their identity.
@coolmantej5070 Why did you pm me? What do I do if you have whatsapp group? Did I ask anyone that I need to join any group. Anyways I am openly answering you I am not interested in your whatsapp group.
@DealSeeker wrote:
@prebhartia All the best for raising awareness about this obvious issue on DD and other internet forums.
But let me be straight with you — you are being too emotional and naive. Here is why I think so:
(1) This is the INTERNET! Flame wars, teasing, and BS (in general) are part of it. Such behavior is common across the genders, including bullying of girls by other girls to such a bad extent that many girls have even committed suicide. I have posted about the ‘Online disinhibition effect’ and the ‘Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory’ in one of your threads earlier. See: http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...
(2) You felt better when some users called you sister. You should decide whether you want people to treat you as “good dimer friend” or you find it better to be called a “sister” by some stranger on the internet. I don’t know how old you are or how much life experience you have gained so far, but this seems immature.
No Friend…it was not at all about you. I can very well understand difference between joking and bullying. You are a good friend of mine. You have been very helpful. I have also lightly taken on your words. You too sometimes start on flirting part but then you pm too saying it is fine or shall I edit. Thats okay. You are a very decent person. You have been and will be a good friend always. So chill
There are many other dimers who actually have this mentality whom I am referring too. I would not openly take their name as I do not want to expose them. There must be many such more whom I do not know about. So, my objective was to highlight the issue and not to pinpoint any person.
@VaibhavJain wrote:
@prebhartia That’s ok if this was for me, Voops not if.. i am sure that was for me, i will try my best from now to keep you out from this and will not tag you anywhere thanks. if you anything more like Don’t reply quote my comments, don’t say me anything you can pm me. and rest assured. @devashi if you also think this. feel free to pm me
No its doesnt matter that you are girl or boy
Logo ki toh aadat hai kahana
Be cool and dont care what people say
But you gotta consider the few “advantages” as well!!!
You were probably showered with Kindle codes whereas only one dimer bothered to help me out(though that was enough to service my needs but not my greed).
On a more serious note DD is just a micro-representation of our patriarchal society as a whole. Whats worse is this is from supposedly educated persons. Women do have to share their burden as well cuz they tend to condone such behaviour in their wards (“Boys will be boys,right”, FGM in which the female relatives are equally culpable etc). We need another Gandhi( during his later years this was his primary focus )/Ambedkar/Amte etc to kick-start the social reformation before its too late.
@prebhartia
So do you think I got the kindle codes just because I am a girl? Buddy, I am not a newbie here. Even I have got many good friends here. Many of them helped me that moment. And many did not know this that time? Around 10-15% knew about this fact before my this thread.
Anyways, thanks for your opinion.
@Dr Anshuman wrote:
But you gotta consider the few “advantages” as well!!!
You were probably showered with Kindle codes whereas only one dimer bothered to help me out(though that was enough to service my needs but not my greed).
On a more serious note DD is just a micro-representation of our patriarchal society as a whole. Whats worse is this is from supposedly educated persons. Women do have to share their burden as well cuz they tend to condone such behaviour in their wards (“Boys will be boys,right”, FGM in which the female relatives are equally culpable etc). We need another Gandhi( during his later years this was his primary focus )/Ambedkar/Amte etc to kick-start the social reformation before its too late.
@prebhartia
no its not a crime
Dont worry what people saying on internet its just a virtual world, if someone is good , be good for them else you know
vu
Be it an online shopping community or anywhere, there shouldn’t be any discrimination between a girl and a boy…….
We just need to upgrade our mindset…let it start from an individual…soon numbers will rise…..:-}
To @prebhartia
Calling someone a sister does make you feel comfortable and I agree to what you say to an extent but that isn’t the real criteria of judging a person to be good or bad. This is virtual world and keeping it separate from the real world is the best thing for any dimer. I have been here since more than a year and frankly it’s not the best of the forums. Global forums are much more acceptable towards girls and even in a tech forum which is for geeks I haven’t heard any such things when a person has revealed his identity as a girl. There are a lot of flaws in the desidime forums not because of the makers of the same but because of the forum members who rather don’t have proper etiquettes to be a part of a forum. Yes if ever i have to blame the admin team it will be having more moderators to moderate the abuses filled posts or vulgar languages used. Every few days an issue crops up in front of us where a dimer is not happy with a part of the system. Desidime being a shopping forum is not that friendly like a tech forum will be. Here people connect whether dimers agree or not with the primary intention of their own benifits ( saving bucks) rather than for community which is their secondary purpose. There are good dimers out here especially who help you being selfless but for ever 1 out here there will be 3 others who are just uncivilised but educated looter. And till a sense of understanding doesn’t get imbibed by the citizens and the netizens we can hardly hope that things could get better. Even western countries would have these problems but on a smaller scale as compared to India. The thing is the Internet urges people to do what they can’t do in the real world. A well educated man who is from a posh family would never ever even dare to pass lewd remarks or say things in front of a girl in a real world. But the picture changes when he gets to the virtual world. He has no identity, there’s no societal classes to which he belongs to and then the cheap mentality portray itself in various forms. As u said respecting girls is the most basic of requirements. As Indians we have willingly or unwillingly been exposed to situations most of the times where a man is portrayed is shown as superior to a woman counterpart. This perception is changing but still we need to respect a woman in entirety. Their freedom to live life their way, their freedom to dress the way they, their freedom to party, their freedom to do just anything a man can do. A smallest of example to guys out here. How many of you turn a eyebrow when u see a girl smoking. Why do we don’t have the same reaction seeing a man smoke. Common this is just a way we differentiate a man from a woman and these differentiations need to change completely. Lastly atleast to all the sensible dimers who really would like to do something is treat a girl as u treat urself. And to all the girl dimers I know it’s difficult due to constant cheap weirdos but ignore them and keep ur virtual and real life completely different as much as possible
Keep contributing
@prebhartia I was not interested in this thread et all but since you were kinda not understanding what @DealSeeker was trying to say so i had to comment here: It doesn’t matter if you are a female or male here a.k.a Internet because you don’t need a ID Proof to enter this world. Do you really care if a female dimer with a weird username trolls you because you are a female dimer here and you have publicly announced it? NO
No body cares about it, Internet is that one place where you don’t get personal with anyone because simply you can’t convey the true feelings and if you DO get personal then its confirmed that you are IMMATURE.
Its just a ‘username’ and as humans it is our mindset to think that the username is associated with a human could be male or female and you create your own comfort zone around the ‘username’ a.k.a human behind it. You can’t go on war against Internet or this forum just because some dimers here were astonished that you were girl dimer and if that has made you feel embarrassed.
If you think someone is flirting with you please go ahead report to admin on that respective thread immediately, I am not sure if DD has any rules/policies against bullying, flirting.
Be proud of what you are
@PaytmKaPoojari Exactly what i wanted to convey
@zengeek wrote:
@prebhartia I was not interested in this thread et all but since you were kinda not understanding what @DealSeeker was trying to say so i had to comment here: It doesn’t matter if you are a female or male here a.k.a Internet because you don’t need a ID Proof to enter this world. Do you really care if a female dimer with a weird username trolls you because you are a female dimer here and you have publicly announced it? NO
No body cares about it, Internet is that one place where you don’t get personal with anyone because simply you can’t convey the true feelings and if you DO get personal then its confirmed that you are IMMATURE.
Its just a ‘username’ and as humans it is our mindset to think that the username is associated with a human could be male or female and you create your own comfort zone around the ‘username’ a.k.a human behind it. You can’t go on war against Internet or this forum just because some dimers here were astonished that you were girl dimer and if that has made you feel embarrassed.
If you think someone is flirting with you please go ahead report to admin on that respective thread immediately, I am not sure if DD has any rules/policies against bullying, flirting.
Be proud of what you are
Even this is a community …be it online……..we CAN be good and do good…..simply follow this mantra…if everybody does, this world is bound to change…:-}
Good post by OP.
Do we need it and has the situation got such worse (refer the ending of title) ?
I would like to share my experience of whatsapp group with similar conditions.
I am a member of a number of whatsapp group for competitive exams preparation. The groups are open and hence lists people across the country (almost no one has met each other). It contains many female members as well.
Their had been cases when a member left the group after receiving unethical personal messages. We contacted and got them back after giving warning to the culprit (removed if repeats). I know that it’s hard to do it here as its a large community. One thing that I noticed in groups was that the situation was not same for all female members. Those members who earned respect by showing their talent in study or those who replied back against any double meaning post openly with strict message were not targeted by evil minds.
Overall, it showed me that if you are a girl and want to be away from such things then you must be serious and be ready to reply back. (why??)
As per me, I take all fellows as friends rather that taking them in any relation (sister or so). Its a personal choice, though.
I support this post but I also think that rather than trying to change the society, its better to change your approach towards such people.
“Friend (OP)”, just give them a strong message and move on. They don’t deserve your time and attention.
@PaytmKaPoojari wrote:
To @prebhartia
Calling someone a sister does make you feel comfortable and I agree to what you say to an extent but that isn’t the real criteria of judging a person to be good or bad. This is virtual world and keeping it separate from the real world is the best thing for any dimer. I have been here since more than a year and frankly it’s not the best of the forums. Global forums are much more acceptable towards girls and even in a tech forum which is for geeks I haven’t heard any such things when a person has revealed his identity as a girl. There are a lot of flaws in the desidime forums not because of the makers of the same but because of the forum members who rather don’t have proper etiquettes to be a part of a forum. Yes if ever i have to blame the admin team it will be having more moderators to moderate the abuses filled posts or vulgar languages used. Every few days an issue crops up in front of us where a dimer is not happy with a part of the system. Desidime being a shopping forum is not that friendly like a tech forum will be. Here people connect whether dimers agree or not with the primary intention of their own benifits ( saving bucks) rather than for community which is their secondary purpose. There are good dimers out here especially who help you being selfless but for ever 1 out here there will be 3 others who are just uncivilised but educated looter. And till a sense of understanding doesn’t get imbibed by the citizens and the netizens we can hardly hope that things could get better. Even western countries would have these problems but on a smaller scale as compared to India. The thing is the Internet urges people to do what they can’t do in the real world. A well educated man who is from a posh family would never ever even dare to pass lewd remarks or say things in front of a girl in a real world. But the picture changes when he gets to the virtual world. He has no identity, there’s no societal classes to which he belongs to and then the cheap mentality portray itself in various forms. As u said respecting girls is the most basic of requirements. As Indians we have willingly or unwillingly been exposed to situations most of the times where a man is portrayed is shown as superior to a woman counterpart. This perception is changing but still we need to respect a woman in entirety. Their freedom to live life their way, their freedom to dress the way they, their freedom to party, their freedom to do just anything a man can do. A smallest of example to guys out here. How many of you turn a eyebrow when u see a girl smoking. Why do we don’t have the same reaction seeing a man smoke. Common this is just a way we differentiate a man from a woman and these differentiations need to change completely. Lastly atleast to all the sensible dimers who really would like to do something is treat a girl as u treat urself. And to all the girl dimers I know it’s difficult due to constant cheap weirdos but ignore them and keep ur virtual and real life completely different as much as possible
Keep contributing
Calling someone a sister does make you feel comfortable and I agree to what you say to an extent but that isn’t the real criteria of judging a person to be good or bad. This is virtual world and keeping it separate from the real world is the best thing for any dimer. I have been here since more than a year and frankly it’s not the best of the forums. Global forums are much more acceptable towards girls and even in a tech forum which is for geeks I haven’t heard any such things when a person has revealed his identity as a girl. There are a lot of flaws in the desidime forums not because of the makers of the same but because of the forum members who rather don’t have proper etiquettes to be a part of a forum. Yes if ever i have to blame the admin team it will be having more moderators to moderate the abuses filled posts or vulgar languages used. Every few days an issue crops up in front of us where a dimer is not happy with a part of the system. Desidime being a shopping forum is not that friendly like a tech forum will be. Here people connect whether dimers agree or not with the primary intention of their own benifits ( saving bucks) rather than for community which is their secondary purpose. There are good dimers out here especially who help you being selfless but for ever 1 out here there will be 3 others who are just uncivilised but educated looter. And till a sense of understanding doesn’t get imbibed by the citizens and the netizens we can hardly hope that things could get better. Even western countries would have these problems but on a smaller scale as compared to India. The thing is the Internet urges people to do what they can’t do in the real world. A well educated man (HAVING ETHICS) who is from a posh family would never ever even dare to pass lewd remarks or say things in front of a girl in a real world. But the picture changes when he gets to the virtual world. He has no identity, there’s no societal classes to which he belongs to and then the cheap mentality portray itself in various forms. (BUT THE REAL PERSON INSIDE YOU NEVER CHANGES…THE WAY YOU BEHAVE AND INTERACT WITH THIS WORLD IS JUST THE EXTERNAL MANIFESTATION OF YOUR INTERNAL MIND) As u said respecting girls is the most basic of requirements. As Indians we have willingly or unwillingly been exposed to situations most of the times where a man is portrayed is shown as superior to a woman counterpart. This perception is changing but still we need to respect a woman in entirety. Their freedom to live life their way, their freedom to dress the way they, their freedom to party, their freedom to do just anything a man can do. A smallest of example to guys out here. How many of you turn a eyebrow when u see a girl smoking. Why do we don’t have the same reaction seeing a man smoke. Common this is just a way we differentiate a man from a woman and these differentiations need to change completely. Lastly atleast to all the sensible dimers who really would like to do something is treat a girl as u treat urself. And to all the girl dimers I know it’s difficult due to constant cheap weirdos but ignore them and keep ur virtual and real life completely different as much as possible
Keep contributing
HOPE I’M NOT WRONG….
Replying to another pm in open that I got today @nilvp1
On 2015-12-09, nilvp1 wrote:
From which part of india you are?
I read your recent post about girls.
I will be happy to frendship with you.
I never talked to any Unkown girl before on Internet.
Thank you.
Bye.
No, thank you but I dont want to be friends with you.
I am happy that I created this post…now in future I will keep adding on in case I find anything odd against any girl.
Others are welcome too.
@prebhartia wrote:
Replying to another pm in open that I got today @nilvp1
On 2015-12-09, nilvp1 wrote:
From which part of india you are?
I read your recent post about girls.
I will be happy to frendship with you.
I never talked to any Unkown girl before on Internet.
Thank you.
Bye.No, thank you but I dont want to be friends with you.
Please guys,grow up…these are acts of novice…..the day you consider yourself a gentleman, all these would stop altogether……
now please don’t take the pain in searching the internet for one, you can see him at your respective homes…..:-}
Vu.
That thread which is locked, http://www.desidime.com/forums/dost-and-dimes/t...
I found it insulting in a way too
Especially the title
" GLAD TO SEE GIRLS WITH BRAINS "
Does it mean .. Girls who are " LESS TECH SAVVY " doesn’t have brains?
Does it mean .. Girls who are NOT interested in " TRICKS AND OFFERS " doesn’t have brains?
Does it mean .. that ONLY the Guys and Girls who are on DD are the only people who have brains?
+ " GIRLS ARE LESS TECH SAVVY AND IN DAY TO DAY LIFE I DONT FIND ANY GIRLS WO ARE INTEREST IN SUCH TRICKS AND OFFERS DISCUSSED HERE. "+
FYI , Mr. @trixtr
Every PERSON ( Man/Girl ) has different interests
There are PERSONS ( Boy/Girl ) who are NOT interested in such tricks and offers ,
For example – We all MUST have one friend who’d rather spend time on his interests / passions , than saving money.
You saved 100 Rs by spending 10 Minutes on DD , and you think you have brains.
He/She spent his 10 minutes of his time doing what He/She LOVES , for him , that 10 minutes is WORTH a LOT more than 100 Rupees to that person.
P.S -
My sister uses my DD account too sometimes if she want’s to POST a deal , ( It’s her choice to use my account instead of making a new account of her own )
It’s NOT a crime to be a girl dimer.
It’s NOT a crime to be a girl who’s MORE faster / smarter in finding deals than GUYS
There are guys even on DD who Treat girls equality and respect , just by not flirting , not posting double meaning posts , and not using cheap words.
But there will be always NEW dimers who will have a different perspective about equality and respect, Who MIGHT do that, and the only solution to that is .. Strict rules against people who do that.