My experience with RJio 4G and Flame handset
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I was very eager to try my hands on 4G network from months now. Rjio had been postponing the release since what felt like ages. So on 18th of this month I finally got the device from my local Reliance xpress. Not to forget the ‘jugaad’ for the invite I had to arrange from a guy who has a friend in Rjio… Here’s my unbiased review cum experience with the handset and the Rjio service.
The handset is mandatory for using Rjio 4G as of now. I auditioned a few handsets available from Rjio named Flame,Wind,Water1, Water2 etc. under the brand name of Lyf. Even though Water1 sells for Rs.14000 approx it felt like very cheap like a plastic Chinese toy. The Wind is just a inch bigger than Flame with the same configuration AFAIK. So I simply picked the lowest model ‘Flame’ which retails for Rs.5500 approx. The bill produced was suspicious. I was billed Rs.5231 for the handset and Rs.107 for headset and Rs.161 for the charger. I demanded that I want to be billed only for the headset and they can keep the headset and the charger but they denied. 
The phone came with a plastic back cover though for free.Ok. Now the built part of the handset…. I wasn’t very happy with cheap plastic finish. I opened the back cover and it indeed smelled like a Chinese plastic toy. It has dual sim and a sd card slot. The 2000 mAh battery needs to be pulled out for inserting the sims or the sd card. I am skipping the configuration as it’s readily available elsewhere. I didn’t even open the earphone buds and charger packet as they looked really flimsy and didn’t bother with them. I put the phone on charge with my LG fast charger I hope that it boost the charging time but the charging time is really slow. Anyway, just after 2 days my number was activated and my 4G service was u and running. I downloaded speedtest app and ran a test. Speedtest show d/l speed around 46 Mbps. WOW. Upload was somewhere near 8 Mbps.
picture upload
This was past midnight.
I don’t have huge download requirements but my data counter in the phone reads 37GB! Maybe because I have not put a password on my hotspot and let my neighbours leech on my data just to give them a taste of Rjio 4G. 
The network has been up 99% of the time. The average d/l speed in daytime hovers around 8-10 Mbps.
Whatever has been the problems are only related with the handset. Rjio forced a couple of updates on my handset. There’s no option to choose when you want the update. It downloads the update automatically and applies it without confirmation. The device will reboot and ofcourse for the time being you won’t be able to use your phone(about 10 mins). It would have been very convenient if RJio had a delay option to apply the update as per owner’s wish. Suppose the battery is depleted and Rjio forces an update, chances are your phone’s software will corrupt and will not boot again. I have felt that the updates have made the phone a little sluggish. Second major problem is heat. Rjio doesn’t have 2G or 3G licence has of now. In future, they have plans to borrow the networks from RCom. So as of now I have to remain on 4G network 24/7 even when I don’t need Hi-speed data. The LTE network drinks battery like a camel. After some 5 days of usage I am facing a major problem due to this. When I am using the data on the phone with hotspot ON, the drain is so fast that even while the charger plugged-in the battery is draining slowly instead charging up! So even if I start with 100% battery and with charged plugged-in the battery will die after a few hours. The only solution looks like buying another battery but surprise— Rjio isn’t providing any accessory for the phones as of yet. Not even a screenguard. Last night I switched off my phone to charge it 100% or it won’t be possible.
The phone comes with 1 year warranty but if you download Lyf care app and upload your bill details you get 1 year additional warranty. Talking about apps. Rjio has launched several apps to be used exclusively on RJio phones like MyJio app, it;s just like any other network’s app where you can see and manage your plans and find hotspot locations etc. Interestingly, the app shows that the complementary free service with comes with the phone is up till 18th Nov 2016. Does that mean Rjio is postponing the official release even further? 
The Jio chat app takes over all the functions of calling and messaging and also has inbuilt messaging just like watsapp. JioJoin another chat app reminiscent of Hike messenger. The most interesting apps are Jio Play and Jio Beats app which is a audio streaming app free for Rjio users. I have a full paid subscription of Hungama app and Rjio beats the Hungama app hands down(pun intended). Not only all the latest music is available for download but they have channels for genres and at 320 kbps. you can download the songs for offline listening and can store it wherever you want. Suck it Hungama. Did I mention all for FREE? Jio Play app again it one fantabulous app. Why? Because I can watch any TV channel live on Jio play. Yes, you heard me right. It has paid channels too not just FTA channels. But many channels are absent as of now. On Jio On Demand app you can watch movies for free. Jio Mag app has the latest subscription for all the popular magazines for free. Jio Newsxpress app delivers the latest news. Jionet app finds the free Rjio hotspots for you. Jio switch app makes switching phones easier even between an Apple phone and an android. Jio security is an anti-virus cum anti-theft app. Jio drive app is an alternative to Google drive with free online storage for Jio users which automatically backs up your data/pics/music/videos/contacts etc on Jio drive. So much free and latest content just for Jio users.
Final conclusion: When you buy a Rjio phone you not only get a phone but a plethora of services for free. In the end, I feel like I got a real bargain and a real good service from Rjio for what I paid. Even if you go for a higher handset model the ROI is better than what you will find from other service providers. Though Rjio shouldn’t tie these services to Lyf phones in future as people(including me) have already bought a premium 4G handset according to our choices. Signing off!
*But will keep updating the post as the need arises.
Edit1: I forgot to mention the heat. The phone get so hot that it becomes impossible to make a call. Especially when data is on.
Edit2: For clearing any doubt. Rjio works ONLY on Lyf handsets as of now.
Edit3: All the calls and sms is also free of cost until Rjio is officially launched.
Edit4: Procedure for getting the invite: you need to get in contact with a Rjio employee to get the invite. He knows the procedure. You will need to give him your Name,email ID,location and a working phone number. You will receive the invite as an email. Needless to say don’t fake any of it or they will block your service.
@nitin_g3 wrote:
I am still facing battery draining issue.As well as i am not getting decent speed.
I am getting average speed of 800-1MBps and max upto 3.5MBps till now
Signal is 95-105 dbm
What about yours ?
Just sharing my experience, getting same 95-105 dbm signal. Speed is good but not best, getting 12-24 mbps download and 6-12 mbps upload. Can we get this improved by lodging complaint?
Nope
May be Jio-User base increased recently
12-24mbps is a pretty good speed
Part of old RCom CDMA spectrum has already been converted to Band 5 LTE and RJio is utilising it for its services. The priority set is Band 40 first, then Band 3 and last Band 5. But the speed in Band 5 is the least.
As per laws of physics, longer the wavelength, shorter the penetration power. So when indoors, whenever the Lyf sets are not getting enough signal in Band 40 (2300 MHZ) /Band 3 (1800 MHZ) it is switching to Band 5 (850 MHZ). Immediately the speed is coming down. This is more apparent in houses/flats that are surrounded in all sides.
Today’s speed inside the house (here in Blore):
funnily, the speedtest to reliance communication server gives this 
result:
Purchased yesterday FLyme 1 but i am getting download speed 2.3 mbps and .50 mbps upload speed. This is what 4G is? 
Report here if any problems in speed ..its trai app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=c...&
For more :
http://www.livemint.com/Consumer/5lYW3tTYCWlxQR...
Got a 15mb update for Wind4 today morning (dated 23-06-2016). Not sure what changes, but feels a bit more responsive compared to last version (_08 one).
The last version was very bad for last few days & had become terribly slow in launching apps, switching screens etc. It seems better now (or I feel so since I have updated it).
Anyone else updated their phone?
my ping is even better than jio 4g which is more important in flash sales
@agent007 wrote:
my ping is even better than jio 4g which is more important in flash sales
What the hell?? You are lucky with Ping also… 
PS – Joking …. Enjoy it until the end of 3 months. Then we will see if it is still worth it.
@gambitrite wrote:
@agent007 wrote:
my ping is even better than jio 4g which is more important in flash sales
What the hell?? You are lucky with Ping also…
PS – Joking …. Enjoy it until the end of 3 months. Then we will see if it is still worth it.
bro it’s act fibernet hyderabad
@agent007 wrote:
@gambitrite wrote:
@agent007 wrote:
my ping is even better than jio 4g which is more important in flash sales
What the hell?? You are lucky with Ping also…
PS – Joking …. Enjoy it until the end of 3 months. Then we will see if it is still worth it.
bro it’s act fibernet hyderabad
LYF Phones Price slashed by 25% ( Some models )
guys my question is
is i purchase flame 5 can it possible to access the 4g internet on computer via Lyf Flame 5?? if yes then how ??
please tell me i am going to buy it tomorrow so just want to confirm is coz i want to use it on my PC ??
@ripper wrote:
guys my question is
is i purchase flame 5 can it possible to access the 4g internet on computer via Lyf Flame 5?? if yes then how ??
please tell me i am going to buy it tomorrow so just want to confirm is coz i want to use it on my PC ??
get a USB wifi receiver if your PC does not have one. should not cost more than 200/-
@ripper wrote:
guys my question is
is i purchase flame 5 can it possible to access the 4g internet on computer via Lyf Flame 5?? if yes then how ??
please tell me i am going to buy it tomorrow so just want to confirm is coz i want to use it on my PC ??
There is an android feature called “usb tethering” using that you can access Internet on any computer without using WiFi tethering. You just have connect the usb Cable to the computer.
is it possible.to do.rooting of reliance phone ….
Reliance is always Shopclues
Purchased flame 2 yesterday. Sim not activated yet.
@vinaythewanted wrote:
Purchased flame 2 yesterday. Sim not activated yet.
It will take max. 24-48hrs…
Is there a way to screencast Jio Play content on my smart TV?
Awesomeness
@ZIZER wrote:
Awesomeness
That’s simply wow, I used the phone in area where signal strength was 70 dbm(best I’ve seen so far) and still the max download speed was 42 mbps. I wonder how did you get this much data speed?
@s_u_n wrote:
Is there a way to screencast Jio Play content on my smart TV?
I have installed Jioplay and Jiobeats on my android TV box. It works perfectly with same user ID as long as I am accessing through the Lyf hotspot. However, for some reason, Jio on Demand is not working. Jioplay, Jiobeats and Jio on Demand work perfectly on RN3 when used via Lyf hotspot.
How are you guys measuring signal strength in dbm? And how to switch bands?
I am using wind 6
@temptemptemptemptemp111 wrote:
How are you guys measuring signal strength in dbm? And how to switch bands?
I am using wind 6
same question 
How does the mobile network get my handset details? Will the sim read the imei from the phone and send it to the network or is it by some other way?
Will we get the preview offer on another phone if we use some imei changer app and change it to the imei of the lyf phone bundled with my sim card? Any expert please comment
@batman wrote:you can see the signal strength in settings→about phone (further inside, sim or connection settings..)
@temptemptemptemptemp111 wrote:
How are you guys measuring signal strength in dbm? And how to switch bands?
I am using wind 6
same question
@dealshunter wrote:
@batman wrote:you can see the signal strength in settings→about phone (further inside, sim or connection settings..)
@temptemptemptemptemp111 wrote:
How are you guys measuring signal strength in dbm? And how to switch bands?
I am using wind 6
same question
Mine is 105 dbm 36 asu
Is it good or what?
As some of may know, i have bought a Reliance flame 2 handset 3 days back. My connection was activated yesterday. So here is a brief review of both Lyf flame 2 and Reliance Jio 4g connection.
Handset :
It is not a bad handset at all. I remember buying an Intex Android phone with 1GB Ram for ~3k from ebay a few months back which turned out to be a bad buy. Intex budget phones are real bad.Comparing to the intex, Lyf flame 2 is much better handset for for the price.
Here are a few pros and cons of Flame 2.
1) LYf flame 2 runs on stock android with very less clutter. handset performance is snappy and does a very decent job at multitasking. Android playstore is present in the phone. I would suggest you to update all the preinstalled apps on the phone including google play services, google maps etc. Without updates, GPS won’t work.
2) Wifi hotsopt is working great. I have connected 4 devices to Flame 2 hotspot and tested them well from 10-30 meters. Signal loss is negligible. If anyone is planning to buy this phone to be used as hotspot, buy it without worries.
3) VFM : Flame 2 is as value for money handset if you go by the specs and bundled offer. 2 years extended warranty is an icing to the cake.
Cons:
1) battery; Battery capacity is only 1500 mah. During test, battery ran out of juice in 6-7 hours on hotspot. phone also tends to get hot while charging. Some guys have mentioned that phone battery drains even during charging. I can confirm that bettery does not drain at all during charging. I have tested the phone on two chargers and surprising getting better battery life with an old charger that came bundled with Nokia lumia 435.
2) Screen : Screen quality is very average with poor viewing angle. But then, it would be stupid on my part to expect quality screen on a phone costing less than 3.5 grands.
Now comes Reliance Jio review. I’m totally blown away by Jio performance. Speeds are consistently hovering around 45 mbps mark. Even during peak hours, speeds are not less than 35 mbps. I was able to download a 1.5 Gb HD video in less than 5 mins which is really good for a wireless connection.. If i need to nitpick, i would go with the latency(ping) which seems be on the higher side.
@thrifty_indian @DealSeeker @agent007 @Chirag @raghupro @Spock @cody
@cybertechie wrote:
As some of may know, i have bought a Reliance flame 2 handset 3 days back. My connection was activated yesterday. So here is a brief review of both Lyf flame 2 and Reliance Jio 4g connection.
Handset :
It is not a bad handset at all. I remember buying an Intex Android phone with 1GB Ram for ~3k from ebay a few months back which turned out to be a bad buy. Intex budget phones are real bad.Comparing to the intex, Lyf flame 2 is much better handset for for the price.
Here are a few pros and cons of Flame 2.
1) LYf flame 2 runs on stock android with very less clutter. handset performance is snappy and does a very decent job at multitasking. Android playstore is present in the phone. I would suggest you to update all the preinstalled apps on the phone including google play services, google maps etc. Without updates, GPS won’t work.
2) Wifi hotsopt is working great. I have connected 4 devices to Flame 2 hotspot and tested them well from 10-30 meters. Signal loss is negligible. If anyone is planning to buy this phone to be used as hotspot, buy it without worries.
3) VFM : Flame 2 is as value for money handset if you go by the specs and bundled offer. 2 years extended warranty is an icing to the cake.
Cons:
1) battery; Battery capacity is only 1500 mah. During test, battery ran out of juice in 6-7 hours on hotspot. phone also tends to get hot while charging. Some guys have mentioned that phone battery drains even during charging. I can confirm that bettery does not drain at all during charging. I have tested the phone on two chargers and surprising getting better battery life with an old charger that came bundled with Nokia lumia 435.
2) Screen : Screen quality is very average with poor viewing angle. But then, it would be stupid on my part to expect quality screen on a phone costing less than 3.5 grands.
Now comes Reliance Jio review. I’m totally blown away by Jio performance. Speeds are consistently hovering around 45 mbps mark. Even during peak hours, speeds are not less than 35 mbps. I was able to download a 1.5 Gb HD video in less than 5 mins which is really good for a wireless connection.. If i need to nitpick, i would go with the latency(ping) which seems be on the higher side.
@thrifty_indian @DealSeeker @agent007 @Chirag @raghupro @Spock @cody
Excellent Review on Flame 2 & Jio. It will help others.
Just sharing my experience, getting same 95-105 dbm signal. Speed is good but not best, getting 12-24 mbps download and 6-12 mbps upload. Can we get this improved by lodging complaint?