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Promo_Dealer123 wrote:16amp.socket. 🥲
2200 watt needs 16 Amp else plug will burn soon
Promo_Dealer123 wrote:16amp.socket. 🥲
Ohh so iron with ac han 😂😍
Promo_Dealer123 wrote:16amp.socket. 🥲
Use an adapter. Costs ₹80 in electrical shops.
LordGane wrote:Use an adapter. Costs ₹80 in electrical shops.
I beg🙇🏻♂️🥺 you, please do NOT use a 16A capacity appliance on a line designed to handle 5A rated appliances.
As it is in our country, have seen even farm labour move to urban areas and become 'electrician'.
One week he is cutting husk, and two weeks later he is installing switchboards and electrical cabling.
Even the wiring for 5A loads is sometimes faulty or outright disastrous.
Adapter or no adapter, but please do not overload the line or the plug beyond its rated capacity or if it is not meant for such configuration (as being used by the consumer).
DealBahar wrote:
Can you please share image?
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But once, would you 🙇🏻♂️please read this post above? https://desidime.com/forums/hot-deals-online/topics/lowest-usha-grand-jet-2200-watts-400ml-steam-iron-detachable-water-tank-gj2200cs-pink#post_9055159
tower wrote:I beg🙇🏻♂️🥺 you, please do NOT use a 16A capacity appliance on a line designed to handle 5A rated appliances.
As it is in our country, have seen even farm labour move to urban areas and become 'electrician'.
One week he is cutting husk, and two weeks later he is installing switchboards and electrical cabling.
Even the wiring for 5A loads is sometimes faulty or outright disastrous.
Adapter or no adapter, but please do not overload the line or the plug beyond its rated capacity or if it is not meant for such configuration (as being used by the consumer).
16A is the max current the plug can draw and supply to the iron box. The device itself doesn't need 16 amp to work. The adapter is not a converter. It's only an adapter to accommodate a 16amp male plug into a common 5 amp female socket. So it is safe to use. The 16amp plugs provide more heat so any adapter tend to burn/melt. That's the only problem.
DealBahar wrote:Can you please share image?
CONA 2496 X5 3 Pin Converter 6A/16A 240V, White|3 Pin Adapter|3 Pin Conversion Plug|Universal Plug|Travel Adapter|3 Pin Socket https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07Y...S7
I use a metal one at home to prevent melting due to the excess heat generated by the 16amp plug.
tower wrote:Dear Desidime Einstein,
NASA, Nobel prize giving committee need to know about geniuses like you.
Thank you so much for the education.
Good find 
🏻
LordGane wrote:
Dear Desidime Einstein,
Let me puncture your arrogance and stupidity at the same time.
Some electric devices like Iron box, AC, water motor, geysers etc. need more power to run.
Power = voltage * current.
Voltage is practically constant at 220 volt and current supplied is 5 amp in India. Voltage can't be changed by devices. Maximum power is also fixed by devices ex 2200w for this iron box. 220*5 = 1100w not sufficient for this iron box.
As Power and voltage are constant, the manufacturer tries to increase the current instead for efficient working of devices. Current is generated by passing a stream of electrons through a conducting material. So, bigger conductors = more current. So, these devices have power socket with BIGGER pins to draw more current. To achieve this exactly, "bigger pins" are used in the plug. That's why 5 or 6 amp plugs have smaller size pins compared to 16 amp plugs.
That's why adapters are used for convenience. The farmer turned electricians, school dropout electricians don't know the formulas but surely they have better knowledge than empty vessels like you. Did you really think manufacturers are dumb to produce 2000, 2200w iron boxes?
Some electric devices like Iron box, AC, water motor, geysers etc. need more power to run.
Power = voltage * current * (edit: powerfactor)
Voltage is practically constant at 220 volt and current supplied is 5 amp in India. Voltage can't be changed by devices. Maximum power is also fixed by devices ex 2200w for this iron box. 220*5 = 1100w not sufficient for this iron box.
Let's forget about the power factor/let's take it as 0.9.
2200 watt has 220 volts in the arsenal, how much current shall it need to operate at 2200 watt?
2200 = 220 X current X 0.9
current = 11.11 A
As Power and voltage are constant, the manufacturer tries to increase the current instead for efficient working of devices.
Current is generated by passing a stream of electrons through a conducting material. So, bigger conductors = more current. So, these devices have power socket with BIGGER pins to draw more current. To achieve this exactly, "bigger pins" are used in the plug. That's why 5 or 6 amp plugs have smaller size pins compared to 16 amp plugs.
It is not for efficient working. It is mandatory to operate at higher current states in order to deliver 2200 watts. Here we have a problem. Giving bigger pins is not enough. The wires we gonna use need to be able handle 11.11 A. If we use 5A socket then it is like the following diagram assuming that the appliance is being plugged into a power supply capable of handling 11.11 A.
Due to conservation of energy the conductor designed to carry 5A will dissipate a lot of heat thanks to i^2 X resistance loss. And it will definitely do some damage to the insulator covering it.
Since our original questioner @Promo_Dealer123 sought advice regarding 16Amp socket, I think the situation is rather drastic. He is planning to plug this 2200 Watt rated appliance to a 5 Amp power supply. The power circuitry of the house is doomed. He is looking at very expensive repairs and fire hazards. But the fuses ll go out. The MCB ll trip. Bro, @Promo_Dealer123 don't do it. We have been there and done that. It was a govt quarter so we did not foot the bill but the lesson is going to stick with us (me n my family) for lifetime.
There is a reason the 16Amp sockets are wired differently from the meter and the wires are soooo thick.
That's why adapters are used for convenience. removed. Did you really think manufacturers are dumb to produce 2000, 2200w iron boxes?
It is a dumb idea to plug 2000/2200W iron in a 5Amp socket using a 5Amp adapter. @Spock wanted to point out this to you.
@MrKool_JJ (Our certified electrical engineer) can validate this.
bikidas2060 wrote:certified EEE
Some electric devices like Iron box, AC, water motor, geysers etc. need more power to run.
Power = voltage * current * (edit: powerfactor)
Voltage is practically constant at 220 volt and current supplied is 5 amp in India. Voltage can't be changed by devices. Maximum power is also fixed by devices ex 2200w for this iron box. 220*5 = 1100w not sufficient for this iron box.
Let's forget about the power factor/let's take it as 0.9.
2200 watt has 220 volts in the arsenal, how much current shall it need to operate at 2200 watt?
2200 = 220 X current X 0.9
current = 11.11 A
As Power and voltage are constant, the manufacturer tries to increase the current instead for efficient working of devices.
Current is generated by passing a stream of electrons through a conducting material. So, bigger conductors = more current. So, these devices have power socket with BIGGER pins to draw more current. To achieve this exactly, "bigger pins" are used in the plug. That's why 5 or 6 amp plugs have smaller size pins compared to 16 amp plugs.
It is not for efficient working. It is mandatory to operate at higher current states in order to deliver 2200 watts. Here we have a problem. Giving bigger pins is not enough. The wires we gonna use need to be able handle 11.11 A. If we use 5A socket then it is like the following diagram assuming that the appliance is being plugged into a power supply capable of handling 11.11 A.
Due to conservation of energy the conductor designed to carry 5A will dissipate a lot of heat thanks to i^2 X resistance loss. And it will definitely do some damage to the insulator covering it.
Since our original questioner @Promo_Dealer123 sought advice regarding 16Amp socket, I think the situation is rather drastic. He is planning to plug this 2200 Watt rated appliance to a 5 Amp power supply. The power circuitry of the house is doomed. He is looking at very expensive repairs and fire hazards. But the fuses ll go out. The MCB ll trip. Bro, @Promo_Dealer123 don't do it. We have been there and done that. It was a govt quarter so we did not foot the bill but the lesson is going to stick with us (me n my family) for lifetime.
There is a reason the 16Amp sockets are wired differently from the meter and the wires are soooo thick.
That's why adapters are used for convenience. removed. Did you really think manufacturers are dumb to produce 2000, 2200w iron boxes?
It is a dumb idea to plug 2000/2200W iron in a 5Amp socket using a 5Amp adapter. @Spock wanted to point out this to you.
@MrKool_JJ (Our certified electrical engineer) can validate this.
LordGane wrote:
Dear Desidime Einstein,
Let me puncture your arrogance and stupidity at the same time.
Some electric devices like Iron box, AC, water motor, geysers etc. need more power to run.
Power = voltage * current.
Voltage is practically constant at 220 volt and current supplied is 5 amp in India. Voltage can't be changed by devices. Maximum power is also fixed by devices ex 2200w for this iron box. 220*5 = 1100w not sufficient for this iron box.
As Power and voltage are constant, the manufacturer tries to increase the current instead for efficient working of devices. Current is generated by passing a stream of electrons through a conducting material. So, bigger conductors = more current. So, these devices have power socket with BIGGER pins to draw more current. To achieve this exactly, "bigger pins" are used in the plug. That's why 5 or 6 amp plugs have smaller size pins compared to 16 amp plugs.
That's why adapters are used for convenience. The farmer turned electricians, school dropout electricians don't know the formulas but surely they have better knowledge than empty vessels like you. Did you really think manufacturers are dumb to produce 2000, 2200w iron boxes?
Never seen such confident and dumb answer at same time
VicksJ wrote:Counter it with explanation if you really have some knowledge else talk to an electrician. You must be higher order dumb to think one has to change house wiring to use 2000w appliances. Do you really feel you are smarter than manufacturers?Never seen such confident and dumb answer at same time
LordGane wrote:You already got answers above, I do not have to repeat the same. but if one go by your logic, using a 5a to 16a adaptor you can even run ac and heavy machinery in your house without even considering the load capacity of the wires behind that 5a plug. I really hope you have insured your home.
Counter it with explanation if you really have some knowledge else talk to an electrician. You must be higher order dumb to think one has to change house wiring to use 2000w appliances. Do you really feel you are smarter than manufacturers?
LordGane wrote:
Counter it with explanation if you really have some knowledge else talk to an electrician. You must be higher order dumb to think one has to change house wiring to use 2000w appliances. Do you really feel you are smarter than manufacturers?
You must be higher order dumb to think one has to change house wiring to use 2000w appliances.
If you want a bigger car then it's logical to assume that you have a bigger garage.
Do you really feel you are smarter than manufacturers?
Actually the manufacturers assume the consumers to be smart ones. Maybe read the instructions manual sometimes. You ll need thicker wirings for 16 Amp appliances.
VicksJ wrote:
You already got answers above, I do not have to repeat the same. but if one go by your logic, using a 5a to 16a adaptor you can even run ac and heavy machinery in your house without even considering the load capacity of the wires behind that 5a plug. I really hope you have insured your home.
Who needs electricity bro? 😂🐒🐒🐒 Some people think that they can even run 3 phase motors by merely plugging them to domestic single phase power supply. 😂😂😂 @MrKool_JJ
VicksJ wrote:Outstanding logic. AC is run continuously for hours so it needs its own circuit to prevent fluctuations whereas a kettle or an iron box or an electric stove are not that's why they come with strict "auto cut off". It's common sense. Hope you remember science from school, current produces heat due to resistance. So a bigger socket produces even more heat. That's why I mentioned in the first answer itself the common problem with using adapters is they melt due to excess heat. The heat doesn't decrease because you use a high gauge wire "inside the home" as the heat is produced by the conducting material of the appliance male plug not the female plug of the wall socket. How hard it is to understand. High gauge wire is used to prevent tripping and doesn't decrease the heat generated. The risk of socket burning still be there. I already said that the supply that comes to home itself is 5 amp. And tripping can happen with cheap quality wires even with a 750w mixer grinder also. Also what exactly are you going to do? Raze down the house and start electric wiring with a high gauge wire to use the water kettle? You need to go back to school if you are still going to argue 16amp can't be used at home unless as I said you think you know more than Prestige, Philips etc. engineers with all those water kettles, induction stove, iron boxes, monitors etc. I have been using numerous appliances for more than a decade with adapters. Insurance is a good idea if you use cheap quality wires not because you use iron boxes else Prestige would have given free insurance along with their kettles and iron boxes since ages.
You already got answers above, I do not have to repeat the same. but if one go by your logic, using a 5a to 16a adaptor you can even run ac and heavy machinery in your house without even considering the load capacity of the wires behind that 5a plug. I really hope you have insured your home.
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Let's forget about the power factor/let's take it as 0.9.
2200 watt has 220 volts in the arsenal, how much current shall it need to operate at 2200 watt?
2200 = 220 X current X 0.9
current = 11.11 A
It is not for efficient working. It is mandatory to operate at higher current states in order to deliver 2200 watts. Here we have a problem. Giving bigger pins is not enough. The wires we gonna use need to be able handle 11.11 A. If we use 5A socket then it is like the following diagram assuming that the appliance is being plugged into a power supply capable of handling 11.11 A.
Due to conservation of energy the conductor designed to carry 5A will dissipate a lot of heat thanks to i^2 X resistance loss. And it will definitely do some damage to the insulator covering it.
Since our original questioner @Promo_Dealer123 sought advice regarding 16Amp socket, I think the situation is rather drastic. He is planning to plug this 2200 Watt rated appliance to a 5 Amp power supply. The power circuitry of the house is doomed. He is looking at very expensive repairs and fire hazards. But the fuses ll go out. The MCB ll trip. Bro, @Promo_Dealer123 don't do it. We have been there and done that. It was a govt quarter so we did not foot the bill but the lesson is going to stick with us (me n my family) for lifetime.
There is a reason the 16Amp sockets are wired differently from the meter and the wires are soooo thick.
That's why adapters are used for convenience. removed. Did you really think manufacturers are dumb to produce 2000, 2200w iron boxes?
It is a dumb idea to plug 2000/2200W iron in a 5Amp socket using a 5Amp adapter. @Spock wanted to point out this to you.
@MrKool_JJ (Our certified electrical engineer) can validate this.
DUDE SERIOUSLY !!!! you think the power company supply 5A to your home. And all this time I learnt in school is that india uses 220 V 50HZ AC, Current is drawn based on the load. so for a 2000W appliance, considering voltage is 220V and fix, the current drawn is around 9A.
As it is not feasible to have different sizes socket for each current requirement, we have 2 standard used in household 5A and 16A. And 16A are made bigger in size so dumb people do not plug them in 5A plugs and melt it because of heat or worse create fire hazard
Below excerpts from QUORA, sums it up very beautifully
Since thick conductors offer less resistance and carrying more current needs the resistance to be less, generally 16amp plugs use thick probes that aren't pluggable to 6 amp sockets.
So why did they make them in-suitable for each other because they weren't supposed to be used in such a way. Of course, you might use some sort of adaptor to do it, but it is unsafe.
Why it is unsafe is
So please do not draw 16 amps out of a 6amp socket as there are chances of ending up needing to do a complete re-wiring that is much more expensive than the adaptor which is used for the purpose.
Thank you so much for the education.