Lenovo ThinkPad E14 Core i3 10th Gen (4 GB/256 GB SSD/Windows 10 Home) Thin and Light Laptop

Rohit80555 wrote:

Last week I have purchased this dell laptop 15 inch fhd 4gb ram which can be extended upto 16 gb.  256gb ssd,  1th hdd,  ms office and windows 10…. Final cost was around 37000… And with no no cost emi for 12 months paid 34331….. Laptop is good..  Takes around 15 secondS to boot..  Processing is also fast..  Bought for home use/ surfing / data storage..  Overall happy with the product.. 

Good Choice.

guest_999 wrote:

Thinkpad quality has gone down after lenovo took over completely from IBM just like what happened with Motorola phones.

+1
Have used Thinkpads for 15 now both at office and at home. from last 3 years , saw multiple issues in recent models.
Not a Thinkpad fan anymore.

BadeShaheb wrote:

Good Choice.

Thank you

Rohit80555 wrote:

Last week I have purchased this dell laptop 15 inch fhd 4gb ram which can be extended upto 16 gb.  256gb ssd,  1th hdd,  ms office and windows 10…. Final cost was around 37000… And with no no cost emi for 12 months paid 34331….. Laptop is good..  Takes around 15 secondS to boot..  Processing is also fast..  Bought for home use/ surfing / data storage..  Overall happy with the product.. 

15 seconds is a lot of time to boot. My 1st gen i3 with just 2gb ddr3 ram, sata2 SSD, win 7 used to boot in 10 seconds.
With nvme ssd, it shouldn’t take more than 8 seconds

cocay wrote:

15 seconds is a lot of time to boot. My 1st gen i3 with just 2gb ddr3 ram, sata2 SSD, win 7 used to boot in 10 seconds.
With nvme ssd, it shouldn’t take more than 8 seconds

May be its also taking 8 or 10 seconds or even less than that…   I haven’t calculated it by using stop watch..

15 seconds is also fast for me as I am using it for home use.. I have told approximately ideal time..

Boot up is very fast as its with ssd..

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gauravmehta29 wrote:

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Deal price expired on nov 13 midnight.

pls.likith287 wrote:

Someone please help me, not able to decide which one to buy out of these options : 1 is 1 DELL i3 @ 28k , 1 hp 5 ryzen @ 25k, and this 1 Lenovo @ 30k… Thanks !

If it’s dell vostro 3401 @ 28k, buy that, don’t even think twice.

Ryzen 5 I hear is much better but I think the model you are referring to has ryzen 5 2500u or 2200u.

This thinkpad one is also good at 30k.

cocay wrote:

Deal price expired on nov 13 midnight.

Okay

cocay wrote:

What’s not good about it? I have been using thinkpad edge 14, its previous gen for over 6 years

I have ( had ) Lenovo T61 from 2008 I think.

It was with my assistant… once she was working on the laptop and a glass of water fell on the laptop. But laptop kept on working without any issues even after this.

It worked fine and got dead in the lock-down … working after 11-12 years almost.

Any good laptops around 60k??

xuseronline wrote:

I have ( had ) Lenovo T61 from 2008 I think.

It was with my assistant… once she was working on the laptop and a glass of water fell on the laptop. But laptop kept on working without any issues even after this.

It worked fine and got dead in the lock-down … working after 11-12 years almost.

The quality may definitely have gone down as others commented (true for every product I guess) but it still offers better quality than its counterparts in this price bracket.

Before buying this, I saw several laptops in showrooms including upto 50k but none offered quality for the asking price. The only other product I liked was Dell vostro 3401 i3 but its asking price didn’t go below 35k(after offers) with the same configuration. I would have bought that at 30k, but it wasn’t available.

Thanks for sharing. @cocay
Should one purchase warranty for this product?
If you are aware, How one can upgrade warranty for this or are there any offer to purchase warranty too?
My HP x360 bought in 2016 proven to be one of the worst purchase I ever made. I bought that from Croma in 56K.

HP service is very good but once warranty ends then it’s almost impossible to arrange for spare, my local vendor told me that Dell and Lenovo are best in terms of parts availability. (my 1 cent on vendors)

any1 wrote:

Thanks for sharing. @cocay
Should one purchase warranty for this product?
If you are aware, How one can upgrade warranty for this or are there any offer to purchase warranty too?
My HP x360 bought in 2016 proven to be one of the worst purchase I ever made. I bought that from Croma in 56K.

No idea about warranty yet. Mine is expected to be delivered on 17th. Once delivered, I’ll call Lenovo to register warranty and enquire about extended. You should call them too. Don’t buy extended from flipkart or amazon.

Personally, I wouldn’t extend warranty by paying money. One year is enough to test hardware durability. If it has to go bad, it will in one year. Beyond that its all luck based. Most components within laptops are plug and play. If anything goes bad, just buy the component and replace yourself. Unlike mobiles, disassembly of laptops is very easy.
The only things that broke down in my previous thinkpad over 6+2 years were keyboard and trackpad ( due to ribbon cable) and ram. Replaced ram, bought wireless k/b and mouse.

Edit: the HDD also failed SMART features after 5 years rendering it unusable as bootable drive. Using it now as a backup drive.

cocay wrote:

No idea about warranty yet. Mine is expected to be delivered on 17th. Once delivered, I’ll call Lenovo to register warranty and enquire about extended. You should call them too. Don’t buy extended from flipkart or amazon.

Personally, I wouldn’t extend warranty by paying money. One year is enough to test hardware durability. If it has to go bad, it will in one year. Beyond that its all luck based. Most components within laptops are plug and play. If anything goes bad, just buy the component and replace yourself. Unlike mobiles, disassembly of laptops is very easy.
The only things that broke down in my previous thinkpad over 6+2 years were keyboard and trackpad ( due to ribbon cable) and ram. Replaced ram, bought wireless k/b and mouse.

Edit: the HDD also failed SMART features after 5 years rendering it unusable as bootable drive. Using it now as a backup drive.

I got the same laptop for my kid a few days back to partake in online classes, and this was my choice primarily coz of the build quality. The RAM definitely needs to be upgraded and the screen brightness is average, but not at all disappointed as I knew that before purchase and honestly, for the 30K price, it’s a fantastic deal.

Once you get the laptop, you will be asked to create your Lenovo account; and then within your Lenovo Vantage app on the system, you will be able to check your warranty status, upgrade critical patches/drivers, and also have an option to purchase additional warranty (1-4 years).

Cheers.

r3d-d3v1l wrote:

I got the same laptop for my kid a few days back to partake in online classes, and this was my choice primarily coz of the build quality. The RAM definitely needs to be upgraded and the screen brightness is average, but not at all disappointed as I knew that before purchase and honestly, for the 30K price, it’s a fantastic deal.

Once you get the laptop, you will be asked to create your Lenovo account; and then within your Lenovo Vantage app on the system, you will be able to check your warranty status, upgrade critical patches/drivers, and also have an option to purchase additional warranty (1-4 years).

Cheers.

Thanks for the update. Any idea if their in-built softwares help you clone the drive to another one with all recovery partitions/softwares etc?

I’ll have to install an SSD after I get mine so I need to clone. If no in-built, I’ll have to hunt for some third party utility. 

cocay wrote:

Thanks for the update. Any idea if their in-built softwares help you clone the drive to another one with all recovery partitions/softwares etc?

I’ll have to install an SSD after I get mine so I need to clone. If no in-built, I’ll have to hunt for some third party utility. 

Hi,

Cloning drive is very easy, You may download trail version of ease us partition software and copy partition to blank space of another drive.
My tip:
Shrink recovery and c partition to as small as possible before copying partition. Else it will create unnecessary write cycles to ssd.

cocay wrote:

No idea about warranty yet. Mine is expected to be delivered on 17th. Once delivered, I’ll call Lenovo to register warranty and enquire about extended. You should call them too. Don’t buy extended from flipkart or amazon.

Personally, I wouldn’t extend warranty by paying money. One year is enough to test hardware durability. If it has to go bad, it will in one year. Beyond that its all luck based. Most components within laptops are plug and play. If anything goes bad, just buy the component and replace yourself. Unlike mobiles, disassembly of laptops is very easy.
The only things that broke down in my previous thinkpad over 6+2 years were keyboard and trackpad ( due to ribbon cable) and ram. Replaced ram, bought wireless k/b and mouse.

Edit: the HDD also failed SMART features after 5 years rendering it unusable as bootable drive. Using it now as a backup drive.

Thanks for your thoughts about warrenty.
It depends on luck and components too.

For example:
My HP x360’s fan started creating noise within 7 months, onsite repair guy replaced the complete thermal system as HP fan design directly ties it to thermal.
HDD failed on 13th month (just 2 weeks after warranty expired )
Battery completely failed on 14th month, swollen. had to be put out.
With the new thermal system I has increased 5 degree.
IPS panel developed uneven lighting this year. (white spots)
Touchpad coating worn out in 4th month within purchase.
Two small crack appeared on both sides near USB port, though my laptop never been dropped, cracks appeared with it’s own weight. (Slim designed chassis)
A wrong firmware update messed up touchscreen logic board ( a small replaceable component) , for which HP is asking me to buy complete new display assembly panel with back plate as HP only provides packaged solution and no individual component.
1 side USB port died last year.

So in HP’s case within 18 months; apart from mother board everything had developed fault.

I had a samsung(only touchboard buttons failed and minor cracks in body in 3 years) and a probook(no fault in 2.5 yr sold) before but they aged fine.

My point is that you may get unnecessarily unlucky sometime. So it’s good to opt for atleat 2 years.

cocay wrote:

Thanks for the update. Any idea if their in-built softwares help you clone the drive to another one with all recovery partitions/softwares etc?

I’ll have to install an SSD after I get mine so I need to clone. If no in-built, I’ll have to hunt for some third party utility. 

I got the one with the 256 GB SSD so don’t plan on moving the OS to a new drive.

That said, a few months back, had cloned my other laptop’s HDD to a 512 GB SSD. I hear the software that comes with Samsung EVO SSD’s is pretty seamless, though I had gone in for a Crucial MX500. That was pretty straightforward for me..everything cloned perfectly and in under 30 mins. I think you should face no problem with this laptop, provided you go for either of these 2 brands.

Cheers!

r3d-d3v1l wrote:

I got the one with the 256 GB SSD so don’t plan on moving the OS to a new drive.

That said, a few months back, had cloned my other laptop’s HDD to a 512 GB SSD. I hear the software that comes with Samsung EVO SSD’s is pretty seamless, though I had gone in for a Crucial MX500. That was pretty straightforward for me..everything cloned perfectly and in under 30 mins. I think you should face no problem with this laptop, provided you go for either of these 2 brands.

Cheers!

I have Samsung evo 2.5" ssd so I’m assuming i should have the software in my laptop. Since my old laptop is dead, will be able to look up once new one arrives. Thanks for the update.

any1 wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts about warrenty.
It depends on luck and components too.

For example:
My HP x360’s fan started creating noise within 7 months, onsite repair guy replaced the complete thermal system as HP fan design directly ties it to thermal.
HDD failed on 13th month (just 2 weeks after warranty expired )
Battery completely failed on 14th month, swollen. had to be put out.
With the new thermal system I has increased 5 degree.
IPS panel developed uneven lighting this year. (white spots)
Touchpad coating worn out in 4th month within purchase.
Two small crack appeared on both sides near USB port, though my laptop never been dropped, cracks appeared with it’s own weight. (Slim designed chassis)
A wrong firmware update messed up touchscreen logic board ( a small replaceable component) , for which HP is asking me to buy complete new display assembly panel with back plate as HP only provides packaged solution and no individual component.
1 side USB port died last year.

So in HP’s case within 18 months; apart from mother board everything had developed fault.

I had a samsung(only touchboard buttons failed and minor cracks in body in 3 years) and a probook(no fault in 2.5 yr sold) before but they aged fine.

My point is that you may get unnecessarily unlucky sometime. So it’s good to opt for atleat 2 years.

This is scary. I’m now having second thoughts about my own warranty decision

You should definitely buy extended based on previous exp. An extra 1000 or so could be well worth in your case.

Just got it delivered. Why you should NOT buy this laptop:

1. RJ45 Port is badly designed. The pull down mechanism, although works, is very very stiff. If somehow you are able to connect the Ethernet cable, it’s next to impossible to get it out. This is likely to break pull down mechanism in a couple of uses for sure. If you plan to use Ethernet Port, this laptop is NOT for you.

Will update more negatives as and when I come across.

@any1 @Suman_Kolkata
@ r3d-d3v1l can you confirm if your laptop’s rj45 port is fine or as bad as mine? It is not a big deal for me as I’ll never use this port. Never used in 6 years in my previous one either

@cocay Yes, you are right that the Ethernet port is a little stiff. I didn’t pay attention to that as I haven’t used a wired connection in a long long time. Upon seeing your post, I did check that out and while a little stiff, I think it’s still fine. It did help to pull it down manually from the opening, while keeping the laptop sideways. Not a perfect solution I agree, but wouldn’t impact wireless users much. Thanks for bringing it to notice though.

r3d-d3v1l wrote:

@cocay Yes, you are right that the Ethernet port is a little stiff. I didn’t pay attention to that as I haven’t used a wired connection in a long long time. Upon seeing your post, I did check that out and while a little stiff, I think it’s still fine. It did help to pull it down manually from the opening, while keeping the laptop sideways. Not a perfect solution I agree, but wouldn’t impact wireless users much. Thanks for bringing it to notice though.

Yup, it works, just a bit stiff. Most people use it in office environment only. I had seen several other users also complained of the same.

Build quality is decent, keyboard experience is nice, display is good, viewing angles are good too. Good deal overall. I’m now finding the screen a bit small though. Should have bought 15" probably.  Any takers? Lol

cocay wrote:

Just got it delivered. Why you should NOT buy this laptop:

1. RJ45 Port is badly designed. The pull down mechanism, although works, is very very stiff. If somehow you are able to connect the Ethernet cable, it’s next to impossible to get it out. This is likely to break pull down mechanism in a couple of uses for sure. If you plan to use Ethernet Port, this laptop is NOT for you.

Will update more negatives as and when I come across.

@any1 @Suman_Kolkata
@ r3d-d3v1l can you confirm if your laptop’s rj45 port is fine or as bad as mine? It is not a big deal for me as I’ll never use this port. Never used in 6 years in my previous one either

Dear @cocay

My laptop is not delivered yet.
Definitely I will check the RJ45 port functionality and will let you know.
It may take another 3/4 days to deliver.

By the way, from your personal experience do you think it’s a good purchase @ 30K? Share your experience please.

r3d-d3v1l wrote:

@cocay Yes, you are right that the Ethernet port is a little stiff. I didn’t pay attention to that as I haven’t used a wired connection in a long long time. Upon seeing your post, I did check that out and while a little stiff, I think it’s still fine. It did help to pull it down manually from the opening, while keeping the laptop sideways. Not a perfect solution I agree, but wouldn’t impact wireless users much. Thanks for bringing it to notice though.

Seems it’s a design flaw…
Many users are complaining about this…many are complaining that the flap has been broken even after first use.
Hence to be in a safer side, better not to use RJ port if an alternative option like wi-fi is available.

If it is necessary to use RJ connector, then purchase USB to Rj45 converter and use it via USB port.

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Suman_Kolkata wrote:

Dear @cocay

My laptop is not delivered yet.
Definitely I will check the RJ45 port functionality and will let you know.
It may take another 3/4 days to deliver.

By the way, from your personal experience do you think it’s a good purchase @ 30K? Share your experience please.

Yes, it’s worth 30k even with badly designed rj45. Don’t worry.

Laptop runs above 55-60 degree on flat surface. (Bad thermal)
Touchpad is made of rubber like surface with coating instead of mylar/plastic. ( Feels even cheaper than Asus/Dell touchpad )
(my advice – use trackpoint as much as possible because Indian moisture/grease will wear coating within 6 months)
Linux support is excellent. (tested on 20.10/pop)
Hinge does not feel strong.
LCD Bezel is very delicate , you will be amused comparing it with rest of the laptop.
Horrible backlit bleeding/ IPS glow. (This IPS will make you love TN display)

Now good –
Built like tank, Sturdy, Will surely survive couple of falls.
14’’inch screen in 13.3 form factor.
Trackpoint.
Lenovo ventage configuration
Best BIOS in Industry.
No thermal throttling.
No backlit/ But you can replace keyboard if you want one(Additional cost)

cocay wrote:

Yup, it works, just a bit stiff. Most people use it in office environment only. I had seen several other users also complained of the same.

Build quality is decent, keyboard experience is nice, display is good, viewing angles are good too. Good deal overall. I’m now finding the screen a bit small though. Should have bought 15" probably.  Any takers? Lol

Most laptops come with 42-47 wh battery within 40k.
A 15 inch will decrease 10-15% of battery. 14 is fine, may be slim bezel are making you…