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Advice needed : Should I go with solar or remain with normal on grid inverter setup for home

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I am using Microtek JM SW2000 along with 2 Exide Invamaster IMST1500 150ah batteries for almost 5 years but now the battery are on verge of death as per local technician so I am thinking to upgrade this system and buy new one. For me this setup have been a pain, both batteries were changed within 2 years and now that I've nearing almost 3 more years I expect them to die soon. The experience with these batteries was really bad where as I've used my old Luminus batteries for almost 5 years without any issue.

Now that both batteries needs to be replaced I am exploring more options, should I sell both batteries along with inverter and buy a new 2KV set up OR look for solar power. I know the cost will be high but is it worth?

1. Buy an all new inverter setup Lead-Acid batteries

2. Buy Lithium-ion battery but its very expensive

3. Install Solar

What should be the best option for my needs? your valuable suggestions and personal experiences are more than welcome as my dealer is pushing hard to sell another setup. Last year he said that one of my battery will only survive 2~3 months but the same battery worked for an year and stopped working couple of days back since there were no water left in them so I gave them for charging

I have watched few youtube videos and there are companies like loom or nexus that are selling there products and when we search for solar inverter there results are on the top. Are they any good?

What if I want to be future proof and install 5kv setup, can I do it in installment as I can't spend 5L for them right away also is it worth spending that much money as we know new technologies appear every now and then

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Shubham021 wrote:
Where are you living?
Only Punjab and Delhi getting free electricity.
Here In maharashtra, per unit electricity is near about 10 rupees for upto 100 unit and increase after 100 unit to around 20 rupees per unit and 150 rupees fix charge separately.
Check mseb electricity rates once.

Not free for us in Delhi who use more than 400units per month. Free for first 200units.

Only ₹800 subsidy for 200-400 unit consumption users. 

If your usage is above 400in 30days period then no subsidy. Pay full price. It's a very smart  strategy. 

Most small family enjoy the benefits. Free bills in winter and 800 subsidy for most middle class with small house. Make them reduce consumption. 

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Go for off grid solar.

Its beneficial in long term.

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What's your purpose of Installing Solar?

On Grid Solar will not work in case of Power Outages. You will need Off Grid/Hybrid Solar Setup for the uninterrupted power supply during the during the power outages. (Subsidies not available for the Off Grid/Hybrid Setup)

In Off Grid/Hybrid Solar setup, Acid batteries life will be less than the normal inverter setup.

In case you're planning for the Solar, then go for the Waaree, Adani or Tata Solar Panels. (Mono Perc/Mono Bifacial)

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What's your purpose of Installing Solar?

On Grid Solar will not work in case of Power Outages. You will need Off Grid/Hybrid Solar Setup for the uninterrupted power supply during the during the power outages. (Subsidies not available for the Off Grid/Hybrid Setup)

In Off Grid/Hybrid Solar setup, Acid batteries life will be less than the normal inverter setup.

In case you're planning for the Solar, then go for the Waaree, Adani or Tata Solar Panels. (Mono Perc/Mono Bifacial)

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I need uninterrupted power for home and WFH office. Regarding Solar setup, I was thinking to be future proof and generate my own energy but not sure about ROI. Also I can live without AC during power cut but need power for other components specially PC and router for Wifi

Now that you mentioned that Acid batteries won't be a good choice for solar it looks like the setup will become more expansive with Lithium batteries.

If I take an example of 2kv inverter, what should be the best strategy. Buy a normal setup and consider solar after 4~5 yrs? (Any specific model to look for)
Or buy a solar setup of 5kv but install 2kv panels now with an option to increases capacity in future
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Try amaron batteries next time. Refill water on time every 2-3 months. 

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jambui wrote:

Try amaron batteries next time. Refill water on time every 2-3 months. 

Yes, those batteries were in a secluded place so I wouldn't use a stool to look at the water level every now and then but I've changed there place so we can see them clearly and I won't forget refilling water.

Any specific model or a full setup link will be appreciated though I won't buy online as we can get them cheaper locally (Lucknow)
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Go for off grid solar.

Its beneficial in long term.

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I'm also palnning for on-grid solar,...missed this year summer.

following this thread.

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As you are ready for the investment as it seems, go for solar. You also get subsidy on panels from govt. Please research a bit to save as much as you can. I would also suggest you to to go for higher capacity than you actually need now. This will slowly allow you to use less electricity supplied by ESCOMs and result in a higher saving. 

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kartikoli wrote:
I need uninterrupted power for home and WFH office. Regarding Solar setup, I was thinking to be future proof and generate my own energy but not sure about ROI. Also I can live without AC during power cut but need power for other components specially PC and router for Wifi

Now that you mentioned that Acid batteries won't be a good choice for solar it looks like the setup will become more expansive with Lithium batteries.

If I take an example of 2kv inverter, what should be the best strategy. Buy a normal setup and consider solar after 4~5 yrs? (Any specific model to look for)
Or buy a solar setup of 5kv but install 2kv panels now with an option to increases capacity in future
In this case, Stick to your conventional Inverter Setup with the Acid Batteries. Along with this, Plan for the On Grid Solar Panels according to your requirement. Mostly 3KV is enough for the normal household. ( Mono Perc panel generates approx 20 Units a day in Summer, also depending on the location, shadow-free area, dust on the panel, and weather. ). On-Grid setup's ROI comes in 4-5 years.

As I suggested earlier, Go with the latest Mono Perc / Bifacial Mono Perc Panels of top companies like Waaree, Tata, or Adani. For Solar Inverter choose from Solis, Growatt, or Goodwe. Most MonoPerc panels come with a 27/30 Year warranty, you can always go Hybrid in the future just by replacing the Solar Inverter.
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Shubham021 wrote:

Go for off grid solar.

Its beneficial in long term.

Hybrid will be better than Off-Grid.
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Rajkotian wrote:
Hybrid will be better than Off-Grid.
Why?
Electricity board Will loot customers.
So I think completely off grid is better.
Investment is high but it's long time profitable.
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Shubham021 wrote:
Why?
Electricity board Will loot customers.
So I think completely off grid is better.
Investment is high but it's long time profitable.
With Hybrid, You have both capabilities, On Grid and Off Grid.
Hybrid is a bit more costly than off-grid. 
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Rajkotian wrote:
With Hybrid, You have both capabilities, On Grid and Off Grid.
Hybrid is a bit more costly than off-grid. 
Hybrid is costly? scream
Then off grid is better. plus1
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Shubham021 wrote:
Hybrid is costly? scream
Then off grid is better. plus1

Not much difference, but there are many Pros. For some models, you can use it without a battery! And anyways you will have a Backup of the Local Grid in case of Night Time/Faulty Battery.

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Rajkotian wrote:
Not much difference, but there are many Pros. For some models, you can use it without a battery!
Then whats the use of such a high investment?
We can use power from electricity board directly.
We are in India not America.
People will think much before installing.
Profit should be there in long term.
Without battery no much profit.
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If power cut is very less than ongrid solar with small inverter for power backup is best setup

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Shubham021 wrote:
Then whats the use of such a high investment?
We can use power from electricity board directly.
We are in India not America.
People will think much before installing.
Profit should be there in long term.
Without battery no much profit.

Everyone can't afford Solar Panels + Inverter  + Batteries together. So, this is very helpful for them. Until they want to add the batteries, they can run the Inverter in On-Grid mode, and whenever they are ready to add the batteries, they can go off-grid.

And in case of no power from the electricity board, and no battery is attached, then also you can use direct electricity from the Solar. Research a little about a Hybrid Solar Inverter, you will get a better idea. It is actually more profitable than the off-grid.

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Rajkotian wrote:
Everyone can't afford Solar Panels + Inverter  + Batteries together. So, this is very helpful for them. Until they want to add the batteries, they can run the Inverter in On-Grid mode, and whenever they are ready to add the batteries, they can go off-grid.
And in case of no power from the electricity board, and no battery is attached, then also you can use direct electricity from the Solar. Research a little about a Hybrid Solar Inverter, you will get a better idea.
I have worked in solar company.
So I know everything.
Still suggesting off grid because electricity board loots customer very much.
People can prefer hybrid model at starting but they will not be benefited much.
One time investment needed for off grid but it will be completed rescue from electricity board hussle.
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ashish0193 wrote:

If power cut is very less than ongrid solar with small inverter for power backup is best setup

Yes, Exactly.
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Ignore , consider sola after next 5-7 years . 

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Shubham021 wrote:
I have worked in solar company.
So I know everything.
Still suggesting off grid because electricity board loots customer very much.
People can prefer hybrid model at starting but they will not be benefited much.
One time investment needed for off grid but it will be completed rescue from electricity board hussle.

Now almost all state govts offering 200 units of power free per month or soon give 200 units free power? Then why it is beneficial to invest in solar? 

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Bk100 wrote:

Now almost all state govts offering 200 units of power free per month or soon give 200 units free power? Then why it is beneficial to invest in solar? 

Where are you living?
Only Punjab and Delhi getting free electricity.
Here In maharashtra, per unit electricity is near about 10 rupees for upto 100 unit and increase after 100 unit to around 20 rupees per unit and 150 rupees fix charge separately.
Check mseb electricity rates once.
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Shubham021 wrote:
Where are you living?
Only Punjab and Delhi getting free electricity.
Here In maharashtra, per unit electricity is near about 10 rupees and 150 rupees fix charge separately.
Check mseb electricity rates once.
Karnataka. joy
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Shubham021 wrote:
Where are you living?
Only Punjab and Delhi getting free electricity.
Here In maharashtra, per unit electricity is near about 10 rupees and 150 rupees fix charge separately.
Check mseb electricity rates once.
In next election ( Maharashtra) you will get free power offer too for sure. joy
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Bk100 wrote:
Karnataka. joy
Read my modified reply again.
And what is electricity rate in karnataka?
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Bk100 wrote:
In next election ( Maharashtra) you will get free power offer too for sure. joy
I don't think it's possible.. We maharashtra people always get looted.
Recently electricity price increased upto 40% here and in next April, they have proposed to increase further.
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Shubham021 wrote:
Read my modified reply again.
And what is electricity rate in karnataka?

At this point there is no point in investing in solar as all political parties are desperate to give free power to win elections. So  far time being it is better deferring  investing in solar. 

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Shubham021 wrote:
Read my modified reply again.
And what is electricity rate in karnataka?

5 to 12 depending upon power consumption. 

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Bk100 wrote:

At this point there is no point in investing in solar as all political parties are desperate to give free power to win elections. So  far time being it is better deferring  investing in solar. 

Right.
I am not investing stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye
I can't afford too.
I hope free electricity comes here too.
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Bk100 wrote:

5 to 12 depending upon power consumption. 

Then how you are getting free?
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