Hot Deal Amazon Fraud -> to investigate myself -> to fraudster

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Hi all, two transactions back to back was done on my Amazon account on 29th dec around 7pm…
Fraudster done one electricity bill and one DTH bill …
Complaint the same on Amazon and they give me refund …
But i m not satisfied and want to know about the fraudster , who is behind the game…
Than, i saw he was done electricity bill of Mahavitran mumbai bill and i get the consumer no. on mail of his order…
I call mahavitran mumbai and gave them Kno. And tell them what is the registered number on bill … I got the number of fraudster … When i search on true caller i got his name and email id also …
When i checked on Amazon through his number i got to know he is registered on Amazon via that number…
Called Amazon and give all details and ask to check bill Kno. With my order to his account orders and they tell me that they investigate and get back to me in 48hrs….

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One day before fraud happens … i.e on 28th dec..
I done gyftr transaction and payu was payment gateway…
So if he is working in payu or gyft … Than surly they get our details whenever we transact with them

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Oooooh. Spicy.
what if some other hacker was paying the bill of someone else? But still glad to know you did something on your own. Plz keep updating about this.

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P_A_N_K_A_J wrote:

Oooooh. Spicy.
what if some other hacker was paying the bill of someone else? But still glad to know you did something on your own. Plz keep updating about this.

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

I ask him from my secondary whatsapp account politely … Lets see what he reply

I would suggest filing a FIR. and a little bit of bluff to this guy with short history like my amz account debited for paying your bill and now i have filled a fir. Etc etc

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Post His Number And All Details Man.. EXPOSE HIM And If He Is Working For PayU Or Gyftr Then Email Them With All Details.

But It Can Be Also Possible That His Bill Was Paid By Someone Or He May Say So ….
You Can Say His Bill Was Paid From Your Account But Then You Cannot Prove That He Was The One Who Paid His Bill From Your Account.

Many Things Into Consideration At The Same Time.

@_Munna_michael_ Glad You Took Efforts To Do Your Own Investigation And Reached To Some Lead. Let See What He Has To Say Now On WhatsApp.

Also How He/Fraudster Got Access To Your Account?

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TechnoFrendz wrote:

Post His Number And All Details Man.. EXPOSE HIM And If He Is Working For PayU Or Gyftr Then Email Them With All Details.

But It Can Be Also Possible That His Bill Was Paid By Someone Or He May Say So ….
You Can Say His Bill Was Paid From Your Account But Then You Cannot Prove That He Was The One Who Paid His Bill From Your Account.

Many Things Into Consideration At The Same Time.

@_Munna_michael_ Glad You Took Efforts To Do Your Own Investigation And Reached To Some Lead. Let See What He Has To Say Now On WhatsApp.

Also How He/Fraudster Got Access To Your Account?

He replied now … Saying → who is this

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TechnoFrendz wrote:

Post His Number And All Details Man.. EXPOSE HIM And If He Is Working For PayU Or Gyftr Then Email Them With All Details.

But It Can Be Also Possible That His Bill Was Paid By Someone Or He May Say So ….
You Can Say His Bill Was Paid From Your Account But Then You Cannot Prove That He Was The One Who Paid His Bill From Your Account.

Many Things Into Consideration At The Same Time.

@_Munna_michael_ Glad You Took Efforts To Do Your Own Investigation And Reached To Some Lead. Let See What He Has To Say Now On WhatsApp.

Also How He/Fraudster Got Access To Your Account?

Thats why i ask first are you working in payu or gyftr…
If that proves that means simple paying via Amazon at payu is not secure

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Chances of this being a leak from gyftr is more than payu. Fintech companies,that too foreign have better security protocols/monitoring tech compared to companies like gyftr.

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VU;
Please provide regular updates relating to ur investigation, It will help all the dimers …

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beingsr wrote:

VU;
Please provide regular updates relating to ur investigation, It will help all the dimers …

Saala chor bokhlaya … Ayaa ayaa reply ayaa

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

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Isko pata chalna cahiye isne DD walo se panga liya hai 🖕… And specially munna bhai se

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

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It happens brother let him live with his fate karma will be on him later or sooner .but the real issue here is account info being stored by merchants u should tweet this issue to Amazon against payumoney …unko pata chalna chahiye ki Munna Bhai se panga liya hai

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what if he is also a desidime banda

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garamjalebi wrote:

It happens brother let him live with his fate karma will be on him later or sooner .but the real issue here is account info being stored by merchants u should tweet this issue to Amazon against payumoney …unko pata chalna chahiye ki Munna Bhai se panga liya hai

How come merchant can store amazon account details? You never have to give Amazon credentials to merchant. You always have to put credentials in amazon login page only. That’s how all the Auth0 based login works.

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In last frauds cases fraudster buying guft vouchers …. And do Frauds…
In my case he was done bill payment … So i m able to extract details of him… Though Amazon refund my money but it is very important to know that how frauds actually happens on Amazon …

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

In last frauds cases fraudster buying guft vouchers …. And do Frauds…
In my case he was done bill payment … So i m able to extract details of him… Though Amazon refund my money but it is very important to know that how frauds actually happens on Amazon …

You can get his home address also, if this was his bills, Just Need Consumer Number ane Billing Unit

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

In last frauds cases fraudster buying guft vouchers …. And do Frauds…
In my case he was done bill payment … So i m able to extract details of him… Though Amazon refund my money but it is very important to know that how frauds actually happens on Amazon …

1. Digital keylogging
2. Risk of using virtual numbers or I’d on which linked number is deactivated

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@_Munna_michael_ Neither Gyftr nor Payu can get your amazon credentials. Max a gyftr employee can have access to your purchased gift vouchers from them. Possible reason someone can get access to your amazon account:
1) You are victim of a phishing attack.
2) You used a public computer to login to amazon account and forgot to logout or may be because of an installed keylogger on that pc, all your keystrokes get logged.
3) You used same email id and password for other social accounts and apps as well. May be your credentials from other non trusted app or websites gets leaked and your amazon account also gets compromised due to that.
4) You may have installed some untrusted apps in your mobile or PC that steals all your credentials secretly.

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Enable two factor authentication in amazon. Don’t blame gyftr or payu most probably they won’t store the merchant credential details even if they store it will be encrypted in DB.

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JaiKrish1031 wrote:

Enable two factor authentication in amazon. Don’t blame gyftr or payu most probably they won’t store the merchant credential details even if they store it will be encrypted in DB.

When they don’t have it, how can they store. Amazon will never share their customer’s password with any third party. That’s how any Auth0 authentication works (Google sign in, facebook sign in etc). Any guy with little technology background will understand it what I am trying to say.

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_Munna_michael_ wrote:

Guys fault in Amazon system

looks like other guy is a noob, just leave it if u got ur money back, rest karma will decide

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We need to be very carefull

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