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billubakra

Hi,

So, not everyone of us can afford solar grids for home. In some cases, mostly in rental cases, the roof does not belong to the person renting and in most of the cases the electricity board, if it’s a goberment board, won’t give you the necessary permission until and unless their cut is paid. Now these companies are very clever. They have made slabs say 4 rs. per unit till 100 units, then rs. 7 per unit till 200 units. These bastards intentionally will raise an invoice after 2 months so that a customer is charged the highest bill.

There are cheap chinese devices available in the market which are connected to the main line coming from the meter which keeps on updating in their chinese language app how much bill(estimated as these boards will never agree with them) will come in the next invoice. Is anyone using these devices? Are they available online? Any other device like this to save electricity?

P.S. My friend who lives in some developed country said that he hasn’t paid any electricity bill since the past 5 years and the electricity department is paying him around $1000usd per month for supplying excess electricity to them lol

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True that these electricity boards bill so as to charge more using slabs but there are no devices which can reduce your bill (only monitor)

BTW is your “friend” a professor in whatsapp university? stuck_out_tongue

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rsai01 wrote:

@billubakra

True that these electricity boards bill so as to charge more using slabs but there are no devices which can reduce your bill (only monitor)

BTW is your “friend” a professor in whatsapp university? stuck_out_tongue

Which devices are good for monitoring the same?
Easy for someone to say who doesn’t live in the west. They are miles ahead of us.

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billubakra wrote:

Which devices are good for monitoring the same?
Easy for someone to say who doesn’t live in the west. They are miles ahead of us.

Even if they live on mars they can’t go against the laws of physics (in this case laws of thermodynamics). There is no such device created that can satisfy these laws and if someone says they have done that, it is only a scam. If you are interested you can go through this link to know about such scams

https://reductionrevolution.com.au/blogs/news-r...

It is such foolishness for someone to say that they don’t pay electricity and are getting $1000 per month by giving back the power they receive from the supply company by using some device (Even them having a solar on-grid system can’t get them $1000 PM unless they have a 50KW system)

To monitor your consumption as a whole you can get another energy meter installed after the supply company meter. If you want to measure device consumption you can buy an energy meter (https://www.amazon.in/Meco-Killawatt-Metering-S...) to plug it in.

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There is nothing called savers, particularly when it comes to energy. These magical devices usually have a capacitor inside which corrects the power factor. But households are not charged based on power factor, but industries/software offices come under this category. Power factor is something that will be close to 1 when you only use resistive loads like incandescent lamps, but the usage is rare now. Now a days, every device in household deteriorates power factor and as a result power factor will be poor. The moment electricity board decides to charge based on power factor, the bills will shoot up much more. Be glad that they are not doing so.

Also the amount of power factor that one deteriorates usually result in losses at board’s end. Who is gonna bear that loss? It’s the board.

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rsai01 wrote:

Even if they live on mars they can’t go against the laws of physics (in this case laws of thermodynamics). There is no such device created that can satisfy these laws and if someone says they have done that, it is only a scam. If you are interested you can go through this link to know about such scams

https://reductionrevolution.com.au/blogs/news-r...

It is such foolishness for someone to say that they don’t pay electricity and are getting $1000 per month by giving back the power they receive from the supply company by using some device (Even them having a solar on-grid system can’t get them $1000 PM unless they have a 50KW system)

To monitor your consumption as a whole you can get another energy meter installed after the supply company meter. If you want to measure device consumption you can buy an energy meter (https://www.amazon.in/Meco-Killawatt-Metering-S...) to plug it in.

He lives in Red Deer away from all the popluation, traffic and what not. His place is 124 hectares or something which is mostly covered in snow. But I guess he’s a lying sob because you seem to know better.

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andromeda wrote:

There is nothing called savers, particularly when it comes to energy. These magical devices usually have a capacitor inside which corrects the power factor. But households are not charged based on power factor, but industries/software offices come under this category. Power factor is something that will be close to 1 when you only use resistive loads like incandescent lamps, but the usage is rare now. Now a days, every device in household deteriorates power factor and as a result power factor will be poor. The moment electricity board decides to charge based on power factor, the bills will shoot up much more. Be glad that they are not doing so.

Also the amount of power factor that one deteriorates usually result in losses at board’s end. Who is gonna bear that loss? It’s the board.

Whatever you wrote went above my head. In my state they shifted from kvah to kwh as a metric to measure the usage and everyone’s bill went skyrocketing. This sucks man.

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billubakra wrote:

Whatever you wrote went above my head. In my state they shifted from kvah to kwh as a metric to measure the usage and everyone’s bill went skyrocketing. This sucks man.

You mean the other way, from kWh to kvah? Right?

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You are getting paranoid so just shut your mobile and take a deep breath.

The capacitor based power savers save so it’s not fraud.

Cutting electricity usage is the only saver. Use bldc fans, use 7 w bulbs, avoid a/c, use solar water heater.

The telescopic biling for electricity is age old you only noticed it now. Clever guys know to keep the reading under control.

I have friend who sell excess solar electricity from their bunglow to the power grid. I had similar plan but have decided to instal solar dehydrator modules.

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dharmanath481 wrote:

You are getting paranoid so just shut your mobile and take a deep breath.

The capacitor based power savers save so it’s not fraud.

Cutting electricity usage is the only saver. Use bldc fans, use 7 w bulbs, avoid a/c, use solar water heater.

The telescopic biling for electricity is age old you only noticed it now. Clever guys know to keep the reading under control.

I have friend who sell excess solar electricity from their bunglow to the power grid. I had similar plan but have decided to instal solar dehydrator modules.

On the capacitive based power savers, do they help in domestic? How?

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andromeda wrote:

On the capacitive based power savers, do they help in domestic? How?

Water Pump
fans
Frigde
Microwave /heater starting
Old tube lights with choke

Spike at start and savings while they are on.
You will find a lot of youtube videos explaining it.

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dharmanath481 wrote:

Water Pump
fans
Frigde
Microwave /heater starting
Old tube lights with choke

Spike at start and savings while they are on.
You will find a lot of youtube videos explaining it.

You mean connect capacitive based savers and save power consumption on these devices?

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Yes.

To save electricity you have to first understand how the electronic meter works.

No rocket science. Lot of youtube videos with right or fake info. Just have to pick what’s logical.

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dharmanath481 wrote:

Yes.

To save electricity you have to first understand how the electronic meter works.

No rocket science. Lot of youtube videos with right or fake info. Just have to pick what’s logical.

Please remember to quote the comment, else the user will miss the response.

tldr version: Capacitor banks will not save any power bill in case of domestic, but they do improve power factor which is a cost determining factor in case of industries.

Now please understand that “no-rocket-science”. Don’t go with youtube gyan, there are many dumb videos, among which the quality one’s will be no where.

Domestic connections are always based on kWh, where power factor can be at stake and the electricity board wont bother.
In case of office/industry connections, they are charged as per kVah, where the power is charged as per power factor.

To help you understand kWh = kVah X PF . In ideal cases or resistive loads, power factor will be close to 1, but with many appliances it comes below 1 which results in higher charges in case of kVah.

I don’t want to bore you further with too much information. If you still think they help in case of domestic connections, I will let you believe in that.

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andromeda wrote:

Please remember to quote the comment, else the user will miss the response.

tldr version: Capacitor banks will not save any power bill in case of domestic, but they do improve power factor which is a cost determining factor in case of industries.

Now please understand that “no-rocket-science”. Don’t go with youtube gyan, there are many dumb videos, among which the quality one’s will be no where.

Domestic connections are always based on kWh, where power factor can be at stake and the electricity board wont bother.
In case of office/industry connections, they are charged as per kVah, where the power is charged as per power factor.

To help you understand kWh = kVah X PF . In ideal cases or resistive loads, power factor will be close to 1, but with many appliances it comes below 1 which results in higher charges in case of kVah.

I don’t want to bore you further with too much information. If you still think they help in case of domestic connections, I will let you believe in that.

Tell me more.

Office in residential building so regular domestic meter and charge commercial rate on the units consumed.

But now setting up a factory shed on independent land with food processing machinery.

How does the kvh work?

Have to work on documentation for electricity connection and not get fleeced by electricity dept employees.

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dharmanath481 wrote:

Tell me more.

Office in residential building so regular domestic meter and charge commercial rate on the units consumed.

But now setting up a factory shed on independent land with food processing machinery.

How does the kvh work?

Have to work on documentation for electricity connection and not get fleeced by electricity dept employees.

I’m not sure if I got your questions right, but the thing that I can confidently say is

A capacitive bank will not help in any way in reducing power bill if the charge is based on kWh. Since residential connections charge as per kWh, no use of capacitive power banks, may be mental satisfaction for a few months and then realization will kick in that it will not help.

But the same capacitive bank will help in improving the power factor which is a cost sensitive parameter in case of factories or huge office spaces where the consumption is measured as per kVah. I’m not sure if all the commercial spaces has this, but wherever this is followed, a capacitive bank will help in improving the PF or reducing the electricity expenses.

Commercial establishments where they charge as per kWh like residential will have different unit rate as far as I understand. Here they don’t care about PF, rather they cover those intricacies by simply increasing the slab rate and you are free to reduce the power factor by any amount you want. Again since they don’t consider PF, capacitive banks will not help in reducing electricity expenses, but hey they do improve power factor though

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Hereforadeal wrote:

Not useful, end up paying fixed charges for another meter

It depends on usage.
Lets say fixed charge 100
Upto 100 4₹ and 100-300 7₹
Then u can recover fixed charge easily if ur consumption is above 133 units which u can distribute equally.
It will take few months to recover additional meter cost.

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rajrocks wrote:

calculate. it will be cheaper.

Yes, my friend has 3 metets and gets around 300 bill, any change above that, he says this months bill was high sweat_smile and me paying around 800 to 1200 keeps quite paying with single meter. Almost same appliances we both have

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