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Welcome. We discuss stock market, shares and IPOs, other avenues of investments like mutual funds, fixed deposits and everything related to finance. Share your views, share your ideas. Get help and information by fellow dimers on trading and demat account, bank account or mutual fund schemes. Help everyone and keep thread for informative purpose, learning and earning. Enjoy! Markets are going crazy and it's IPOs galore in bull market. October will see atleast 5 IPOs out of which 3 are confirmed. My views are Godrej Agrovet - Long term/listing gains MAS Financial - Listing Gains/For risk takers IEX India - Risk takers/avoid - Steeply priced IEX India investor PTC sold it's share at 140 odd 5 years ago. Few more investors sold from 290 to 600 range in last 2-3 years due to regulatory reason (5% max stock holding in exchange), they are asking 1650 now! Justified? You decide. In MAS, Motilal Oswal sold share at 338 and they are asking 459 now in a year. This much premium is justified? In rising market, may be. P/E is also higher side considering much bigger players like M&M, Bajaj Finserve etc. Godrej Agrovet is pick right now with much big production scale, wide reach and less P/E compare to animal feed and dairy products peers. Godrej has good managment and known for leaving something for investors. Take your call. Disclaimer - This thread is for discussion and doesn't provide any investment or related information. All investments carry market related risk and one should consult advisors before taking any decision.
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अगर सब कुछ मिल जाएगा ज़िंदगी मे तो तमन्ना किसकी करोगे... कुछ अधूरी ख्वाइशें तो ज़िन्दगी जीने का मज़ा देती है ।।
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खऱ्या अर्थाने कोणी कोणाला शिकवू शकत नाही. एखाद्या रोपटयाचा जसा आपोआपच विकास होतो तसाच नैसर्गिक अडथळे दूर करणे, आणि त्याच्या शक्तींना जागृती आणणे. योग्य खतपाणी घातले, प्रकाश व हवापाणी यांची सोय केली, सभोवती कुंपन घातले, म्हणजे रोपटे सुरक्षित राहील व त्याचा योग्य प्रकारे विकास होईल. तसेच मुलांचेही आहे. म्हणून विकासाला योग्य‍ परिस्थिती निमार्ण करुन देणे हेच शिक्षकाचे कार्य. या दृष्टीने शिक्षण हे अभावात्मक म्हणावे लागेल. You cannot teach a child any more than you can grow a plant. The plant develops its own nature. The child also teaches itself. But you can help it to go forward in its own way. What you can do is not of a positive nature but negative. You can take away the obstacles and knowledge comes out of its own nature. Loosen the soil a little, so that it may come out easily. Put a hedge round it, see that it is not kitted by anything. You can supply the growing seed with the materials for the making up of its body, brining to it the earth, the water, the air that it wants. And there your work stops. - Swami Vivekanand
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offer of the year

tcs buyback is set at 4500/-. 🐒🐒🐒 Everytime retailers get 100% acceptance rate, at least with TCS. So, don’t lose your chance to get yourself some TCS shares. 

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Deal Colonel Deal Colonel
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oh this is the reason you kept marketdimer toungueout

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this id is given by @anthrax.ut unkill. toungueout

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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…..GMP
SBI 31 – 33
Prataap 230 – 240
Godrej 110 – 115
MAS 180 – 190….

Hope Nifty stays above 9660…else premium may erode very fast…

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Godrej Agrovet fully subscribed on 1st day.

Benevolent Benevolent
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this is be a bang on ipo i feel
ill c the stats on 6th after 12pm and will apply.

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Deal Captain Deal Captain
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GIC listing this Month

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Godrej Agrovet 10.60 times total, 4.87 times in retail at 1 pm. (No mistake in calculation this time. toungueout)

Benevolent Benevolent
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That’s great! So I can leave hopes of any allocation to me yet again toungueout

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Almost 100 times! Retail just 6.7 times. Chance of allotment increased. smile

Benevolent Benevolent
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almost 52x subscription right?
nw waiting for astec to boom biggrin

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MAS is already 90% with 1 hour and just 3 more days to go. Looks like people are in hurry to apply. toungueout

Deal Newbie Deal Newbie
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what about general insurance co

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It’s 2nd biggest ipo ever. Coal india got brilliant response from retail and was successful too due to good pricing by government. Current government looks greedy, leaving nothing for retailers apart from 5% discount. Everyone will get allotment as issue is quite big and since it’s priced so high that there will be negligible listing gains as well as long term benefits being priced as per bull market rate. Current gmp is just 9-10 rs. Doubt it’ll give any good returns.

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Applied 2 application for both mas and godrej

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By the way I’ll apply in GIC. Need just 0.95 for break-even. Uske upar jitna mile utna profit. 30-40 to deke jayega per share agar 10-15 discount pe list hua bhi to. 300-400 rupye free ke ban jayenge. toungueout

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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applied 1 lot of Pratam snacks, luckly got 1.

luckly sold on 1300 rs smile

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It’s good you sold. Highly over-valued. I skipped that as it was not a long term story and I mostly prefer ones with long term benefits. ICICI Lombard was the previous I invested in with min. 3 years time, Got 890 shares for application of 1100. Skipped SBI Life. Now went for Godrej again with 3-5 years in mind. Big names rarely let you down but then if markets nosedives due to global factors, they can’t do much. But when recovery comes good companies make a come back strongly.

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The only IT company I invested in was TCS and still carrying it from more than 10 years. Some shares are from IPO in 2004. Others companies like Matrimony or others Internet based are just junks. Never thought of applying. It’s better to be in the ones that create software than ones which uses software. Internet based companies and that too from India are over-hyped only. Just Dial met its fate and most will. I don’t even know when these issues arrived and closed like JD or BMatrimony. I ask everyone here to invest wisely and if you don’t understand business, don’t put your money in. smile

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I gave a pass to Godrej.

Is there any focus on SME IPOs?

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Some SME ipos are good but required minimum 2 lac so I avoid them

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MAS bumper response.

QIB 150x
NII 382x
Retail 14x

Total 129x, still an hour left for offline subscription.

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Withdrew 3 applications from IEX, only 1 applied. GIC also rocking on 1st day, such a big IPO still managed to get ‘almost’ fully subscribed!

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What is general view of GIC?

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What is general view of GIC?

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Long term bet. Won’t give much returns on listing. No activity in grey market. NII will apply using retail category for 5% discount so most active traders of IPO will be absent and sellers on listing. Already DIIs have made heavy application and they will only sail through this.

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Applied iex on last day at 9:00 am

And withdrawn my application back at 2:00 pm for low subscription

Deal Cadet Deal Cadet
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Applied for IEX on first day and withdrawn on the last day.

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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Godrej Agrovet Allotment status Out at Karvy. wink

Benevolent Benevolent
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Godrej agrovet – applied for 1 lot and no allocation.

Shopping Friend Shopping Friend
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Same here.

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1 out of 4. sad

Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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same 1 out of 4.. wink

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Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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0 out of 2

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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Sold icici lombard today @ 697.4

Deal Lieutenant Deal Lieutenant
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What will be target price of godrej if we buy from market on Monday

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MAS allotment out. Got 0/6. sad

Benevolent Benevolent
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Applied for 1 lot of Indian Energy Exchange and got 1 lot allocated.

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same here.
Are u selling on listing day or planning to keep for long term?

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Deal Subedar Deal Subedar
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whats ur take on Reliance nippon which is gonna be listed in a couple of weeks

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I’ll apply. ADAG’s bad name will keep investors away and chances of allotment will be high. Listing gains to honi hi chahiye. But not a long term bet. There are many AMCs lining up for listing. First mover advantage will be gone once others come in. Also pe is high, around 38. After listing can go upto 50. IILF is available at 24 pe odd doing similar business but at low profile. I guess retail could be 4x and that’s where money could be made.

Moreover my broker charges me only 10 bucks on stamp, some paise mandatory charges being clearing member. So even at 1 rupee premium is profitable in any IPO.

Benevolent Benevolent
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Got General Insurance Corporation 1 lot allotted.

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Dark horse. Maine 2 apply kiye. Dekhne ki jaroorat nahi, mil hi gaye honge. Warren Buffett fav, world’s 12th biggest company in world’s 2nd largest populated nation. Congrats.

80% is going to QIBs who won’t be able to sell in 1st month. We retails will have 17% to make biggies play on our tune for 1 month. smile

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ohhkk..it means no allotment for me… sad… did u apply on cut pff price…as i applied on 895..

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Everyone should apply at cut-off. In case you see subs figure are below 1x and QIB, Retail is above 80% but below 100% then only apply at lower bid because IPO may be extended but not called off and under-subscription would mean everyone getting shares at price demanded.

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