No Black Friday sale in India?

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What could be the reason that this time we don't have black friday sale like Amazon US ?😔


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The law of the land does not want foreign players to have a free run and spoil the prospects of the law-makers. (Vote-bank)

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Hence 'on paper' there is a restriction on how many site-wide major sales these foreign players can have.

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If Amazon feels there is still juice left in marketing the event so much, then they would have the panache here.

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But historically, Christmas sales and Cyber Monday (after Black Friday) haven't really been a big deal here, in the past few instances.

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Amazon anyways has become stingy in offering support to buyers, sellers.

They start increasing contract labour (with three month, six month contract) just around Prime Day sales or Deepawali rush.

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Convincing more sellers to participate in those sales is much more easy in our country.

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Now even those three month, six month floating stock of agents are dwindling and the vendor site (third party) call centers are ill equipped to handle more rush.

Students as young as 18 years of age and hardly in mid twenties have been assigned as frontline agents in even risk investigation teams.

Zero back-end, real staff or minimal staff in the leadership roles/ team leaders or real investigations or support.

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Their system collapses even during the Deepawali sale.

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That way, surprisingly, after the debacle of the first and the second Big Billion Day.. Flipkart has made its shipping services and Ekart Logistics Limited .. more robust and scalable.‏‏

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BBD/GIF sales in Sep-Oct are our thanks giving, black friday and cyber monday sales. Do remember amazon adding a couple of great deals for us too (Especially premium headphones) but this didn't happen for a while

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Entertainer Entertainer
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No Thanksgiving so no Black Friday 

Cool Cool
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flipkart croma tata cliq tata neu shows black friday deals

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Because we don't have black Friday in our history. 

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Bk100 wrote:

Because we don't have black Friday in our history. 

12 March 1993 - movie was made Black Friday

😞
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The law of the land does not want foreign players to have a free run and spoil the prospects of the law-makers. (Vote-bank)

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Hence 'on paper' there is a restriction on how many site-wide major sales these foreign players can have.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

If Amazon feels there is still juice left in marketing the event so much, then they would have the panache here.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

But historically, Christmas sales and Cyber Monday (after Black Friday) haven't really been a big deal here, in the past few instances.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Amazon anyways has become stingy in offering support to buyers, sellers.

They start increasing contract labour (with three month, six month contract) just around Prime Day sales or Deepawali rush.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Convincing more sellers to participate in those sales is much more easy in our country.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Now even those three month, six month floating stock of agents are dwindling and the vendor site (third party) call centers are ill equipped to handle more rush.

Students as young as 18 years of age and hardly in mid twenties have been assigned as frontline agents in even risk investigation teams.

Zero back-end, real staff or minimal staff in the leadership roles/ team leaders or real investigations or support.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Their system collapses even during the Deepawali sale.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

That way, surprisingly, after the debacle of the first and the second Big Billion Day.. Flipkart has made its shipping services and Ekart Logistics Limited .. more robust and scalable.‏‏

Mobile Guru Mobile Guru
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BBD/GIF sales in Sep-Oct are our thanks giving, black friday and cyber monday sales. Do remember amazon adding a couple of great deals for us too (Especially premium headphones) but this didn't happen for a while

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No Diwali sale for them so No Black Friday sale for us stuck_out_tongue
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We have diwali sales bro

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No Diwali sale in USA

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Leave India; there were no such deals in the online markets of the USA. Expect pixel trade-in; everything is wizardry discounted. 

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formosa1 wrote:

The law of the land does not want foreign players to have a free run and spoil the prospects of the law-makers.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Hence 'on paper' there is a restriction on how many site-wide major sales these foreign players can have.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

If Amazon feels there is still juice left in marketing the even so much, then they would have the panache here.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

But historically, Christmas sales and Cyber Monday (after Black Friday) haven't really been a big deal here, in the past few instances.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Amazon anyways has become stingy in offering support to buyers, sellers.

They start increasing contract labour (with three month, six month contract) just around Prime Day sales or Deepawali rush.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Convincing more sellers to participate in those sales is much more easy in our country.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

Now even those three month, six month gloating stock of agents are dwindling and the vendor site (third party) call centers are ill equipped to handle more rush.

Students as young as 18 years of age and hardly in mid twenties have been assigned as frontline agents in even risk investigation teams.

Zero back-end, real staff or minimal staff in the leadership roles/ team leaders or real investigations or support.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Their system collapses even during the Deepawali sale.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ 

That way, surprisingly, after the debacle of the first and the second Big Billion Day.. Flipkart has made its shipping services and Ekart Logistics Limited .. more robust and scalable.‏‏

Why do write so long paras??

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There was black friday sale on amazon india before??

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Sasuke97 wrote:

Why do write so long paras??

In my opinion, he does because he can. 🙂🙂🙂

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desiman wrote:
12 March 1993 - movie was made Black Friday

😞
And it was banned. sad
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Sasuke97 wrote:

There was black friday sale on amazon india before??

Yes.

And there still are.

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F.Y.R. (some of the examples) only.

https://amazon.in/b?node=16068842031

https://amazon.in/b?node=14307638031

https://amazon.in/b?node=1953602031

https://amazon.in/b?node=1968024031

https://amazon.in/b?node=2563505031

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We had once, in the 90s
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Sasuke97 wrote:

Why do write so long paras??

What a joke this whole para is. Ekart logistics is noway near to amazon delivery. Even flipkart tracking system is worst. Amazon is way much ahead in terms of support than flipkart.
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whyred wrote:
What a joke this whole para is. Ekart logistics is noway near to amazon delivery. Even flipkart tracking system is worst.

Agree to disagree.

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‎ ‏‏‎I would not want my experience or the experience of my acquaintances be the benchmark here.

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But F.Y.R. (in so far as I know).. ATSPL (the in-house logistics firm of Amazon) has had THE MOST pathetic track record in grievance redressal of even basic things like 'item marked as delivered but not received' or foul play, bad behaviour by the pickup associates.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Amazon U.S., Amazon Canada systems copy-pasted here.. resulted in them (AmazonIN) not even raising an escalation to the local stations of Amazon Transportation Services Private Limited.

For orders of upto N amount (usually INR500. Some agents say INR1000) the Customer Service Associates simply ask to wait till FRD (Free Replacement Date).. the buffer time after the GDD/EDD (Guaranteed Delivery Date/ Estimated Delivery Dste).

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Without cross-checking with the D.A., after a buffer timeframe wait or sometimes immediately... a 'concession' is added.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

And ditto with mischief from pickup associates end.

After two failed pickups, if the logistics partner is Amazon Transportation Services Private Limited... even the NoC form is depreciated now.

.

It is like skunks within the vendors of ATSPL are on a high pedestal.

They can choose not to pick up... then accuse the Customer of having denied to hand the item over.

Then too, in my past 390 failed pickups in three family accounts... NOT ONE pickup associate so much as got a reprimand.

.

I literally have INR ₹9000 plus of ADVANCE refunds or refunds of tidbit non returnable items in my account.. within three months of August end 2022 till third week November 2022.

.

I myself raise my account to the Concession Abuse Prevention team... that why ₹9000 worth of 'advance' refunds.. but even CAP team is denying to take over contacts.

.

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I did not say that Flipkart customer service has me wow-ed.

I mentioned that Ekart .. as an independent entity feels robust and more scslable.

.

Amazon relies on temp agents who are just like Swiggy, Rapido drivers.

Nothing permanent.

.

Ekart is serving third party customers too.

Like Lee/Wrangler India too use them.

.

Ekart's main vendor ElasticRun... has millions in funding from other venture capital firms (example: SoftBank, Japan).

.

Their expansion is more structured and with declared books (of accounts) to show.

.

Highly unlikely that in current times.. for more than a dozen failed pick-ups.. in a single account... in less than 30 days... Flipkart would issue ₹9000 INR worth of 'advance refunds'(refunds without pickups) and still the account is not barred from being logged into.

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formosa1 wrote:
I literally have INR ₹9000 plus of ADVANCE refunds or refunds of tidbit non returnable items in my account.. within three months of August end 2022 till third week November 2022.

Arey.. @blueflash please do respond (if you can, if you want) on this.

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I have https://www.desidime.com/deals/lenovo-carme-hw25p-smartwatch-green this and few other stuff (Wrangler jeans, Tupperware dumb vegetable chopper, steel water bothles).

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If that Lenovo thingy is of ANY use.. for gifting to your nephew purpose also.. just take it.

(Or you want to be safe, then order it from your accounts and return the "seal pack" piece I have).

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Like literally I do not want any money i  return.

(You can donate though, if you wish to. Donate to any worthy cause or institution/ person).

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bikidas2060 wrote:
Check chats please!

You know how it goes.

I check chats.

I respond to chats

Then someone else in the backed reads them too.

And then Daesh style execution.

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I could look something up, talk to two three people from the field. (Two who performed and one who got performed upon)

And it is mostly smooth.. with shorter recovery times and reasonably safe.

Hope ypu keep posted. (Off DesiDime medium like e-mail and others exist too).

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formosa1 wrote:

Hahaha!

You know how it goes.

I check chats.

I respond to chats

Then someone else in the backed reads them too.

And then Daesh style execution.

.

.

I could look something up, talk to two three people from the field. (Two who performed and one who got performed upon)

And it is mostly smooth.. with shorter recovery times and reasonably safe.

Hope ypu keep posted. (Off DesiDime medium like e-mail and others exist too).

🙂

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hemant_111 wrote:
No Diwali sale for them so No Black Friday sale for us stuck_out_tongue
Exactly
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bikidas2060 wrote:

🙂

Sorry, I do not know how it became "haha ha" in the beginning.🥺

I was probably writing 'yeah"

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Because they have a sale running every week throughout the year! 😂😂

But in India no sale can be larger than the sales on Diwali festival like GIF/BBD. Rest are formalities!

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formosa1 wrote:

Agree to disagree.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

‎ ‏‏‎I would not want my experience or the experience of my acquaintances be the benchmark here.

‏‏‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

But F.Y.R. (in so far as I know).. ATSPL (the in-house logistics firm of Amazon) has had THE MOST pathetic track record in grievance redressal of even basic things like 'item marked as delivered but not received' or foul play, bad behaviour by the pickup associates.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Amazon U.S., Amazon Canada systems copy-pasted here.. resulted in them (AmazonIN) not even raising an escalation to the local stations of Amazon Transportation Services Private Limited.

For orders of upto N amount (usually INR500. Some agents say INR1000) the Customer Service Associates simply ask to wait till FRD (Free Replacement Date).. the buffer time after the GDD/EDD (Guaranteed Delivery Date/ Estimated Delivery Dste).

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

Without cross-checking with the D.A., after a buffer timeframe wait or sometimes immediately... a 'concession' is added.

‎ ‏‏‎‏‏‎ ‏‏

And ditto with mischief from pickup associates end.

After two failed pickups, if the logistics partner is Amazon Transportation Services Private Limited... even the NoC form is depreciated now.

.

It is like skunks within the vendors of ATSPL are on a high pedestal.

They can choose not to pick up... then accuse the Customer of having denied to hand the item over.

Then too, in my past 390 failed pickups in three family accounts... NOT ONE pickup associate so much as got a reprimand.

.

I literally have INR ₹9000 plus of ADVANCE refunds or refunds of tidbit non returnable items in my account.. within three months of August end 2022 till third week November 2022.

.

I myself raise my account to the Concession Abuse Prevention team... that why ₹9000 worth of 'advance' refunds.. but even CAP team is denying to take over contacts.

.

.

I did not say that Flipkart customer service has me wow-ed.

I mentioned that Ekart .. as an independent entity feels robust and more scslable.

.

Amazon relies on temp agents who are just like Swiggy, Rapido drivers.

Nothing permanent.

.

Ekart is serving third party customers too.

Like Lee/Wrangler India too use them.

.

Ekart's main vendor ElasticRun... has millions in funding from other venture capital firms (example: SoftBank, Japan).

.

Their expansion is more structured and with declared books (of accounts) to show.

.

Highly unlikely that in current times.. for more than a dozen failed pick-ups.. in a single account... in less than 30 days... Flipkart would issue ₹9000 INR worth of 'advance refunds'(refunds without pickups) and still the account is not barred from being logged into.

If you had studied in SEBA or any other northeast boards, you'll be one of the rank holders in matric exam 👍😆

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Sasuke97 wrote:

If you had studied in SEBA or any other northeast boards, you'll be one of the rank holders in matric exam 👍😆

I am non-matric fail.



And barely passed 8th standard also sad.

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whyred wrote:
What a joke this whole para is. Ekart logistics is noway near to amazon delivery. Even flipkart tracking system is worst. Amazon is way much ahead in terms of support than flipkart.

Yes, yes, amazon is go great that have delivered all of hard items damaged, either already selling damaged items or damaged in transit due to their shitty packaging.

Seeing the recent reviews under seller ratings, shows that it wasn't just wrong in my delivery area. And on top of that scams are increasing and refund are not issued even when delivery guy checks during pickup and take away.

30+ % increase in such cases, whereas it was less then 10% before 2021

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Sasuke97 wrote:

Yes, yes, amazon is go great that have delivered all of hard items damaged, either already selling damaged items or damaged in transit due to their shitty packaging.

Good to see someone else also effectively use sarcasm.🙂👍🏼

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