Open Letter to DD Admins [Reference Promotion of Fraudulent activities on DesiDime]

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@anthrax.ut wrote:

@aniey72 wrote:

Thanks a lot Anthrax for your kind response and presenting your views. In expectation to arrive at a constructive and positive end-result I am doing my best to respond to your post.

Coming to Freedom251
Who are you to proclaim that it is fraud
A. either you are an insider
OR
B. You are speaking without any basis
(Assumptions cant be a rationale for calling someone fraudulent )

I am sorry, for proclaiming it to be fraud in Black&White. But I guess many a times I also referred to them as seemingly Fraud. Right?
Also, at DesiDime, I have reasons for referring to them as “Fraud” as well. And that is to prevent thousands of DesiDime users to end up paying to this company. If I would have always said Seemingly Fraud, then quite possible, it might have qualified as “Not a strong reason to not-promote Freedom”.

So, I am not an Insider and not at all remotely related to Mobile manufacturing industry. But yes, I have done more research and reading on Online Communities and e-commerce than probably 99.9% of DesiDimers.

Coming to basis of calling BlueBells a Seemingly Fraud company is:
(1) Nothing on Ground to achieve such a big project- No manufacturing, No Office, No marketing, No sales and distribution channel.
(2) Doing all the things in logically incorrect manner. If they have such an excellent business plan, then why doesn’t they first setup their Office and Plant? So, its like “Selling something that DOESN’T EVEN EXIST now, not even in PROTOTYPE”. Isn’t it a reason strong enough to suspect them?
(3) Or otherwise, we can’t say anyone is genuine if they are not yet proven Fraud. Taking somebody’s money without having any product? That’s a fraud here. They have a Rs 250 crore plus project (manufacturing, direct selling, and tie-ups with marketplace providers etc etc).. Is it a joke to get it done by 1 IIT Alumnus and 3 Amity passouts with no noteworthy credentials ?? Still If they wish to do it, then first do all other B-2-B things, like tie-ups etc etc, then come to B-2-C to ask for Rs 290 from each customer. That’s the way to get customer’s trust and not to be called Fraud. But starting from B-2-C and asking for payment saying that ALL B-2-B things will done afterwards.. .What is this? A new way of doing business? No its clearly a Fraudulent way of doing business.

Now why did DD promote it…. A there was a government official who had inaugurated …..currently we do not have any reason to beleive he is not honest
Similar to us BBC and other News reporters have acknowledged and not called it a scam
So our law says innocent until proven guilty and we are not bigger than the law for sure

Regarding Media Coverage, Since last 25 years I can see newspaper advertisements talking about Job-offers, business opportunities etc etc (And all of them asking money upfront) and then delivering the promised product/service. So, have you seen these Newspaper agencies doing any investigation regarding the content/genuineness of these Advertisements? In today’s newspaper also there are more than 7 such advertisements here… So, Media appearance is again not a proof of genuinity.

your research is as good as a BBC research in my opinion both are a point of view…. and each one has the right to it

and again i have no clue or any reason to right now say what some ones business plan

So my contetion is not your letter… but you usage of word “fraudulent activities on DD”

you are accusing us of something which you yourself are now acknowledging was a mistake……

As to why show this information to user…. because every user has the right to that information… to buy or not to buy is the persons individual choice and not one which we can tell them

But how many of them are matured enough to decide whether they should avail the deal or not ? Forget matured many of them don’t even know proper english , so how would they know about it ? There is a certain amount of trust associated with every company and so is the case with Desidime. Why not maintain that trust and you would definitely reap benefits in the long run.

What is prime motto of desidime ? Is it just to save money regardless of whatever tricks,loopholes, fraudulent activities ? In this case I understand there was nothing black and white but you can find sense something fishy, right ? So simply you cannot promote the deal as you do with other good threads citing certain criteria, it could have been applied to this too.

The man behind Freedom 251, the cheapest smartphone in the world
“For your kind information, the bill of material (BOM) value for a product like this when sourced from the cheapest supply chain cost approximately USD 40 (Rs 2,700).

“And this, when translated into retail price after addition of applicable duties, taxes and with distribution and retail margins would be at least Rs 4,100 while the product is being sold at Rs 251,” ICA national president Pankaj Mohindroo said in the letter. He further added that even if the product is sold at lower margins in an e-commerce type subsidised sale, the final consumer price cannot come below $52-55 (about Rs.3,500-3,800).

“Further, there is no visible mobile operator subsidy involved in this, which in any case is not the way the Indian mobile market operates,” he added. Mohindroo said it would be advisable that officers from Deity get into the depth of this and ICA will provide any technical assistance, if required.

“We are bringing this to your kind notice, so that a scenario does not arise in the future, where the nation, the government of India, industry and trade are seen in a poor light,” the letter added.

People goes crazy over the crash of Freedom 251’s website. Here are some of their social media statuses about it,

5.50 – Alarm
5.55 – Website Crashed
6.00- Still Waiting
6.05 – Shut down the Laptop
6.10 – Slept@RingingB #Freedom251
— Bharath Kumar (@BharathKumar840) February 18, 2016

Freedom 251 website crashes at the announced opening time of registration 6.00 am…. Great start #Freedom251
— Manali Balsara (@ManaliB0103) February 18, 2016

One minute silence for those who thought they will book 4-5 mobiles. #Freedom251
— ANKIT (@JagaaDaaku) February 18, 2016

One minute silence for those who thought they will book 4-5 mobiles. #Freedom251
— ANKIT (@JagaaDaaku) February 18, 2016

Probably freedom251india is first one this year to make us #aprilfools — Amfas Tech (Amfastech) February 18, 2016

Trying to open the website https://t.co/awJV...D4, Finally my act…out of frustration…"P
#Freedom251 pic.twitter.com/PwsOvTIa1Q
— KUNDAN SAMAL (@kundansamal) February 18, 2016

Do you think #Freedom251 is real?
— Mouktika Kurupudi (@mouktiks99) February 18, 2016

This following lady might be the luckiest one to see ‘buy now’ button so far,

Saw the ‘buy now’ button for a second. Clicked on it. And, voila! (RingingB, quite a disaster this.) #Freedom251 pic.twitter.com/ey5xYIw5vC — Veda Ramaswamy (rveda) February 18, 2016

Waiting for narendramodi to declare today as #freedom251 day #celebrations #kuchmeethahojaye — Shashank Jaiswal (Darde_Devil) February 18, 2016

Kasam se agar aap itna bada answer exam mein likhte to yahan desidime par naa hota

@VaibhavJain wrote:

Agr krte ho har baat pe Shaqq!
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To INDIAN ho tum

http://web.archive.org/web/20150615000000*/http... website only updated once that too yesterday only

No time to read this much paragraph you wrote above 😂😂

@VaibhavJain wrote:

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To INDIAN ho tum

http://web.archive.org/web/20150615000000*/http... website only updated once that too yesterday only

http://web.archive.org/web/20160217065239/http:... website updated hardly once or twice now say. 251….

😂😂😂😂

@admin wrote:

@aniey72 – Did you try reading the news or atleast did some basic elementary research before opening up this thread?

There are many who are not buying the phone after reading comments/updates in that thread and thats what Desidime is about (Community and Information) and we are not stopping that in any way.

PS: We won’t be deleting this thread as its your point of view and you can also take it up with Times of India if you want… They are running a Full page ad today about Freedom251 (just fyi, so you come out of your virtual world)

and are you aware that each one of us live a part of our life in the same virtual world as his? and your/our “desidime” is existing in the same virtual world you mentioned.

@anthrax.ut

(Removing the earlier quoted discussion, just for ease of readability)

your research is as good as a BBC research in my opinion both are a point of view…. and each one has the right to it
and again i have no clue or any reason to right now say what some ones business plan
So my contetion is not your letter… but you usage of word “fraudulent activities on DD”
you are accusing us of something which you yourself are now acknowledging was a mistake……
As to why show this information to user…. because every user has the right to that information… to buy or not to buy is the persons individual choice and not one which we can tell them

Well I don’t want to see my qualifications being demeaned by being compared with those of a BBC reportsperson. Anyhow, that’s your view and all I can do is to make better and more rational arguments and expect it change in my favor

This thread is not an acquisition, rather a request (although a bit too Loud then earlier 3/4 requests in other threads). The request is to take down this deal from FPD and also put an OFFICIAL clarification in Original post, saying users to use their discretion as the Company might not be able to fulfill their requests… And also the company has ZERO Assets as of now to fulfill such big promises.

Also, this thread is a request to make some rules to ensure that the deals like (Sabkadukan, Shopiwo, MMT wallet looting & trade) etc are not officially and openly floated at Desidime. Still some users will find a way to do it. But Admins can atleast act as Police (moderators), to ensure that some cleanliness is maintained in DD discussion threads.

Now, if you ask where does the role of DD Admins/moderators come into picture in all this??
My response is, DD’s responsibility is not only to bring best deals and discussions in front of its users.. But also to prevent its users fall prey to fraud deal. So whenever you are NOT SURE of any deal being genuine, then its best to with-hold that deal unless picture gets clear.

PS: Not proven as Fraud is not equal to be proved as Genuine. [There is a open space between (read time) being Fraud and Genuine]. At the beginning Sradha was also a genuine scheme and with time only it came to be exposed as a Fraud.

why is this thread being voted down ? Is there any reason ?

@saymyname wrote:

@anthrax.ut wrote:

@aniey72 wrote:

Thanks a lot Anthrax for your kind response and presenting your views. In expectation to arrive at a constructive and positive end-result I am doing my best to respond to your post.

Coming to Freedom251
Who are you to proclaim that it is fraud
A. either you are an insider
OR
B. You are speaking without any basis
(Assumptions cant be a rationale for calling someone fraudulent )

I am sorry, for proclaiming it to be fraud in Black&White. But I guess many a times I also referred to them as seemingly Fraud. Right?
Also, at DesiDime, I have reasons for referring to them as “Fraud” as well. And that is to prevent thousands of DesiDime users to end up paying to this company. If I would have always said Seemingly Fraud, then quite possible, it might have qualified as “Not a strong reason to not-promote Freedom”.

So, I am not an Insider and not at all remotely related to Mobile manufacturing industry. But yes, I have done more research and reading on Online Communities and e-commerce than probably 99.9% of DesiDimers.

Coming to basis of calling BlueBells a Seemingly Fraud company is:
(1) Nothing on Ground to achieve such a big project- No manufacturing, No Office, No marketing, No sales and distribution channel.
(2) Doing all the things in logically incorrect manner. If they have such an excellent business plan, then why doesn’t they first setup their Office and Plant? So, its like “Selling something that DOESN’T EVEN EXIST now, not even in PROTOTYPE”. Isn’t it a reason strong enough to suspect them?
(3) Or otherwise, we can’t say anyone is genuine if they are not yet proven Fraud. Taking somebody’s money without having any product? That’s a fraud here. They have a Rs 250 crore plus project (manufacturing, direct selling, and tie-ups with marketplace providers etc etc).. Is it a joke to get it done by 1 IIT Alumnus and 3 Amity passouts with no noteworthy credentials ?? Still If they wish to do it, then first do all other B-2-B things, like tie-ups etc etc, then come to B-2-C to ask for Rs 290 from each customer. That’s the way to get customer’s trust and not to be called Fraud. But starting from B-2-C and asking for payment saying that ALL B-2-B things will done afterwards.. .What is this? A new way of doing business? No its clearly a Fraudulent way of doing business.

Now why did DD promote it…. A there was a government official who had inaugurated …..currently we do not have any reason to beleive he is not honest
Similar to us BBC and other News reporters have acknowledged and not called it a scam
So our law says innocent until proven guilty and we are not bigger than the law for sure

Regarding Media Coverage, Since last 25 years I can see newspaper advertisements talking about Job-offers, business opportunities etc etc (And all of them asking money upfront) and then delivering the promised product/service. So, have you seen these Newspaper agencies doing any investigation regarding the content/genuineness of these Advertisements? In today’s newspaper also there are more than 7 such advertisements here… So, Media appearance is again not a proof of genuinity.

your research is as good as a BBC research in my opinion both are a point of view…. and each one has the right to it

and again i have no clue or any reason to right now say what some ones business plan

So my contetion is not your letter… but you usage of word “fraudulent activities on DD”

you are accusing us of something which you yourself are now acknowledging was a mistake……

As to why show this information to user…. because every user has the right to that information… to buy or not to buy is the persons individual choice and not one which we can tell them

But how many of them are matured enough to decide whether they should avail the deal or not ? Forget matured many of them don’t even know proper english , so how would they know about it ? There is a certain amount of trust associated with every company and so is the case with Desidime. Why not maintain that trust and you would definitely reap benefits in the long run.

What is prime motto of desidime ? Is it just to save money regardless of whatever tricks,loopholes, fraudulent activities ? In this case I understand there was nothing black and white but you can find sense something fishy, right ? So simply you cannot promote the deal as you do with other good threads citing certain criteria, it could have been applied to this too.

It is absolutely absurd to believe people who do not know english are not matured….

and also equally wrong to assume people are not matured

@VaibhavJain wrote:

😂😂😂😂

Aur do teen thread pe daal de.

@aniey72 wrote:

@anthrax.ut

(Removing the earlier quoted discussion, just for ease of readability)

your research is as good as a BBC research in my opinion both are a point of view…. and each one has the right to it
and again i have no clue or any reason to right now say what some ones business plan
So my contetion is not your letter… but you usage of word “fraudulent activities on DD”
you are accusing us of something which you yourself are now acknowledging was a mistake……
As to why show this information to user…. because every user has the right to that information… to buy or not to buy is the persons individual choice and not one which we can tell them

Well I don’t want to see my qualifications being demeaned by being compared with those of a BBC reportsperson. Anyhow, that’s your view and all I can do is to make better and more rational arguments and expect it change in my favor

This thread is not an acquisition, rather a request (although a bit too Loud then earlier 3/4 requests in other threads). The request is to take down this deal from FPD and also put an OFFICIAL clarification in Original post, saying users to use their discretion as the Company might not be able to fulfill their requests… And also the company has ZERO Assets as of now to fulfill such big promises.

Also, this thread is a request to make some rules to ensure that the deals like (Sabkadukan, Shopiwo, MMT wallet looting & trade) etc are not officially and openly floated at Desidime. Still some users will find a way to do it. But Admins can atleast act as Police (moderators), to ensure that some cleanliness is maintained in DD discussion threads.

Now, if you ask where does the role of DD Admins/moderators come into picture in all this??
My response is, DD’s responsibility is not only to bring best deals and discussions in front of its users.. But also to prevent its users fall prey to fraud deal. So whenever you are NOT SURE of any deal being genuine, then its best to with-hold that deal unless picture gets clear.

PS: Not proven as Fraud is not equal to be proved as Genuine. [There is a open space between (read time) being Fraud and Genuine]. At the beginning Sradha was also a genuine scheme and with time only it came to be exposed as a Fraud.

lets agree to disagree on certain points…. others we are already put rules for

@anthrax.ut wrote:

@saymyname wrote:

@anthrax.ut wrote:

@aniey72 wrote:

Thanks a lot Anthrax for your kind response and presenting your views. In expectation to arrive at a constructive and positive end-result I am doing my best to respond to your post.

Coming to Freedom251
Who are you to proclaim that it is fraud
A. either you are an insider
OR
B. You are speaking without any basis
(Assumptions cant be a rationale for calling someone fraudulent )

I am sorry, for proclaiming it to be fraud in Black&White. But I guess many a times I also referred to them as seemingly Fraud. Right?
Also, at DesiDime, I have reasons for referring to them as “Fraud” as well. And that is to prevent thousands of DesiDime users to end up paying to this company. If I would have always said Seemingly Fraud, then quite possible, it might have qualified as “Not a strong reason to not-promote Freedom”.

So, I am not an Insider and not at all remotely related to Mobile manufacturing industry. But yes, I have done more research and reading on Online Communities and e-commerce than probably 99.9% of DesiDimers.

Coming to basis of calling BlueBells a Seemingly Fraud company is:
(1) Nothing on Ground to achieve such a big project- No manufacturing, No Office, No marketing, No sales and distribution channel.
(2) Doing all the things in logically incorrect manner. If they have such an excellent business plan, then why doesn’t they first setup their Office and Plant? So, its like “Selling something that DOESN’T EVEN EXIST now, not even in PROTOTYPE”. Isn’t it a reason strong enough to suspect them?
(3) Or otherwise, we can’t say anyone is genuine if they are not yet proven Fraud. Taking somebody’s money without having any product? That’s a fraud here. They have a Rs 250 crore plus project (manufacturing, direct selling, and tie-ups with marketplace providers etc etc).. Is it a joke to get it done by 1 IIT Alumnus and 3 Amity passouts with no noteworthy credentials ?? Still If they wish to do it, then first do all other B-2-B things, like tie-ups etc etc, then come to B-2-C to ask for Rs 290 from each customer. That’s the way to get customer’s trust and not to be called Fraud. But starting from B-2-C and asking for payment saying that ALL B-2-B things will done afterwards.. .What is this? A new way of doing business? No its clearly a Fraudulent way of doing business.

Now why did DD promote it…. A there was a government official who had inaugurated …..currently we do not have any reason to beleive he is not honest
Similar to us BBC and other News reporters have acknowledged and not called it a scam
So our law says innocent until proven guilty and we are not bigger than the law for sure

Regarding Media Coverage, Since last 25 years I can see newspaper advertisements talking about Job-offers, business opportunities etc etc (And all of them asking money upfront) and then delivering the promised product/service. So, have you seen these Newspaper agencies doing any investigation regarding the content/genuineness of these Advertisements? In today’s newspaper also there are more than 7 such advertisements here… So, Media appearance is again not a proof of genuinity.

your research is as good as a BBC research in my opinion both are a point of view…. and each one has the right to it

and again i have no clue or any reason to right now say what some ones business plan

So my contetion is not your letter… but you usage of word “fraudulent activities on DD”

you are accusing us of something which you yourself are now acknowledging was a mistake……

As to why show this information to user…. because every user has the right to that information… to buy or not to buy is the persons individual choice and not one which we can tell them

But how many of them are matured enough to decide whether they should avail the deal or not ? Forget matured many of them don’t even know proper english , so how would they know about it ? There is a certain amount of trust associated with every company and so is the case with Desidime. Why not maintain that trust and you would definitely reap benefits in the long run.

What is prime motto of desidime ? Is it just to save money regardless of whatever tricks,loopholes, fraudulent activities ? In this case I understand there was nothing black and white but you can find sense something fishy, right ? So simply you cannot promote the deal as you do with other good threads citing certain criteria, it could have been applied to this too.

It is absolutely absurd to believe people who do not know english are not matured….

and also equally wrong to assume people are not matured

Wait your statement makes no sense.
So you are saying that we cannot assume that a person is not matured , correct ?? Okay I accept that is my personal opinion we can’t say for sure but If they are matured enough they could have come over to the forums and bought it.

What was the reason behind making it FPD ?

Edit 1: And as for the English part is concerned, I apologize I went with the flow.
Edit 2: Rather does the FPD have greater value over a thread in forums or both have the same value. ?

@saymyname bhai since when making an FPD got anything to do with wether people are mature or not….. bhai as company we do not assume if some one is mature or not…. we are a platform……… ur logic is not the same as mine… and hence my understanding of the subject a little lesser than yours….. so i will conclude the discussion here

@saymyname wrote:

why is this thread being voted down ? Is there any reason ?

because none of them have patience to read, simply votedown

Omg !

1. If You Do not Promote Deals then Issues .
2. If You promote Deals Then also Issues !

So Tough on Admin/Mods

Just a bit late to add the Edit. Was expecting a similar answer. Anyways would not tag you but it would be nice if you can reply to the Edit 2.

FPD and Threads have the same value for us as a community, but usage is difference

There is a certain section of the community who prefers FPD for accessing information and there is a certain section who prefers threads for communication…. FPD has a wider audience as compared to threads… hope that helps

But how many of them are matured enough to decide whether they should avail the deal or not ? Forget matured many of them don’t even know proper english , so how would they know about it ? There is a certain amount of trust associated with every company and so is the case with Desidime. Why not maintain that trust and you would definitely reap benefits in the long run.

What is prime motto of desidime ? Is it just to save money regardless of whatever tricks,loopholes, fraudulent activities ? In this case I understand there was nothing black and white but you can find sense something fishy, right ? So simply you cannot promote the deal as you do with other good threads citing certain criteria, it could have been applied to this too.

It is absolutely absurd to believe people who do not know english are not matured….

and also equally wrong to assume people are not matured

Hey @anthrax.ut

Seems like you have mis-interpreted the post by @saymyname

He questioned that “How many of them are matured to decide …” —> Means there are lots of people who haven’t yet seen (or read) a lot of world. They are impressionable and gullible and might get easily mis-guided. Nothing against anyone. Its a natural process, experience comes with age only. There is no tonic that can get you experience (read maturity). So, the question is not everyone can see all the merits and demerits of a product/deal.

Next he said, “Forget matured, many of them doesn’t even know proper english”.. —> It doesn’t mean that maturity = english… It simply means that, Even if a person is Mature (and Intelligent & Rational), then also the lack of knowledge of English language (which is major medium of communication in DD), will prevent them to know about all the pros and cons of a deal.

Hope I was clear in explaining this point.

PS: Thanks for your patience in all this discussion.

No where did Desidime forced a single dimer to Buy a Certain thing !

Even if its FPD, Does that mean You are bound to purchase the item ?

There are just 6 lakhs user in Desidime , what about the rest 125 crore people in india !

Whose gonna stop them and why ?

They will see Print ads/ Televised Ads, Can you stop that ?

Just blaming a company Just Like That is ridiculous !

Will you publicly apologize if Ringing Bells as promised delivers the Phones?

@aniey72 wrote:

and also equally wrong to assume people are not matured

Hey @anthrax.ut

Seems like you have mis-interpreted the post by @saymyname

Hope I was clear in explaining this point.

PS: Thanks for your patience in all this discussion.

i did not know you could speak for him as well… when he himself had apolgiesed for the english comment…. its good to debate…. but lets not get carried away here and read other peoples mind

If we get things expensive…we look out for the cheapest….we have reached to such a level that 10-25% is not considered as price reduction. Anything more than 50% is ok.
And when they offering a smartphone at an unbelievably low price….everyone is like How is it possible? Scam out there !!

All coming up with all sort of gyan…but sure when given an option to buy…none would want to skip it.
If u call this scam, then wht abt PE…isnt that manipulation ?? All pictures have two sides.
Why this thread all for ??

@aniey72 wrote:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

This is also promoted by the government of INDIA and you think that it’s unethical? Dayumm! *Glitches may be happen and happened many times on Flipkart while redmi 1s was on flash sale as well, it doesn’t mean desidime didn’t promote thier deal.

Dear Vaibhav,

Thanks for taking your time to respond, and I guess you might have got the answer in other replies. Still I am collating them for your reference:

(1) This company is not promoted by Government of India. It was just the presence of some high ranked ministers there, who were invited as Guests (Not Promoters or Endorsers). Same has happened during launch of many other Fraud Schemes. Hope you might have heard about “Enron” or “Sradha Scam”

(2) Also, Newspaper advertisements are no proof of Genuineness. They are infact one of the most commonly exploited tools by Major Fraudsters.

(3) Here we (I along with some other dimers) are not questioning just the technical glitches on this company’s website. Rather we are questioning the basis for starting Sales and collecting Money just on the basis of Business-idea on Paper. They haven’t yet hired a single person or office or any other asset and have started their Big-Bang sale. What Assets do they hold to deliver the product?

(4) Last (but not least), Politeness while discussion will be very much appreciated. Stay Beautiful while discussions.

Best Regards

Edit: After @VaibhavJain response, 3-4 posts after this post:

@VaibhavJain wrote:

No time to read this much paragraph you wrote above 😂😂

If you don’t have time to read and understand what is being discussed, then can you please wait for others to discuss and arrive at some meaningful consensus. Else with your one-liner posts you are disrupting the discussion.

@prebhartia wrote:

If we get things expensive…we look out for the cheapest….we have reached to such a level that 10-25% is not considered as price reduction. Anything more than 50% is ok.
And when they offering a smartphone at an unbelievably low price….everyone is like How is it possible? Scam out there !!

All coming up with all sort of gyan…but sure when given an option to buy…none would want to skip it.
If u call this scam, then wht abt PE…isnt that manipulation ?? All pictures have two sides.
Why this thread all for ??

5-10% percent toh offline mil jata then why to buy online

And Regarding this Phone Yes We can dream of this phone in hand but not in Real .

Kuch dino mai news anne vali hai ek company 6 lakh se jyada logo ko chuna lga gyi