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Personal Review of Motorola Edge 30 Pro (Very long, please avoid if you are busy)

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So I bit the bullet and exchanged an unused old LCD phone (for very little price) and bought Moto Edge 30 Pro. I have now used it for 3 days to write a rather long personal review, a total of 6 observations.

Previously: I have used iQOO 7 Legend (12-256, SD888, 39k bought on the very first day of release) through the last year (along with an old iPhone 8 from 2017). I bought a Realme X7 Max (12-256, MTK1200, 23k on BBD or some other sale) for my mom which I have some experience in handling. And I had bought a Xiaomi Mi 11X (8-128, SD870, 20k on Diwali) which I eventually gave my cousin (in exchange of money, slightly less than buying price).

1 Performance: It's humanly impossible to separate performance of SD870-SD888-MTK1200-SD8G1. Just impossible. Except some artificial benchmarks. All apps look and behave similarly across the entire range of medium and high end Android smartphones, because they are designed to work on the lowest common denominator (like a Jio phone for example). Games, once their quality settings are set, look exactly the same across all phones for same settings. None of the SOCs mentioned shows lag, jitter etc.

2 Display (and Audio): Display refresh rate and brightness, Samsung's AMOLED, LG's pOLED etc are paper specs, as long as you keep Automatic Brightness switched on like a sane person and keep the refresh rate on Auto, all the phones (listed previously) with AMOLED looks great indoors, and thankfully, are visible outdoors. Of course you can burn your retina looking at #FFFFFF on your phone at full brightness or buy light meters (Luxmeters) to separate things like some YouTube tech reviewers, but otherwise, sadly enough, your human eyes will betray you. Watching Netflix (with 199 plan)/Hotstar/Prime Video was similar across phones, may be if I had higher priced plans for Netflix, I could see some difference, but sadly, I don't. I used noise cancelling TWS with all phones, can't say anything about audio quality. I could hear phone rings on all phones across rooms without a problem. 

3 Camera: Camera quality especially Pixel count is long established as a complete myth, but your eyes can be tricked to make you believe some photo quality is better than others: a) higher brightness, b) slightly increased contrast, c) slightly upped sharpness, d) increased color saturation, e) brightening areas in pic which are in relative darkness (like shadow), this is know as HDR, f) higher details, g) lower noise, etc. Now all of these can be achieved by a combination of good camera optics and software. Google, at least since their launch of first Pixel phone in 2016, believes in computational photography and doing tricks in post-processing by taking quick successions of as many as 50 underexposed pics and merging them with depth information coming from artificial intelligence and slight hand shake. They have been charting top ranks in DXOmark with pretty passable optics (and only one camera) with this strategy. So while better optical system is desirable, one can get away with better tuning and software and one of the hundreds of GCam apps with correct config file (it is a chore and a very cumbersome exercise to find right app version and even more difficult to find a suitable config file) can do this for you. Having said that, Realme X7 Max's Sony IMX682 is better than iQOO 7 Legend's Sony IMX598 which in turn is better than Moto Edge 30 Pro's Omnivision OV50A40. This is after using best available GCam app and config from XDAdevelopers.

4 Software: When you work on a laptop and you have 20 applications open all at the same time and all are working at the same time and you can switch to one of your 80 tabs open on Chrome without Chrome refreshing the page is not something how phones (and even Android tablets) work. Phone software, the custom ROM/skin on top of Android OS is trying to balance at least 4-5 different things at any point in time a) save battery, b) keep SOC cool (phones have small footprint, no heat vent and no fans), c) ensure smooth performance by keeping RAM available (historically phones had much less RAM than PCs), d) keep apps that you are actively using (like music, picture in picture videos, note etc) in the memory even when they go to the background, e) keep running highest priority services that is required to keep the phone functioning (the most critical being the kernel, then network, home app, and hundreds of other absolutely essential services), etc. So how your phone software works depends upon how manufacturers implemented their custom ROM, if they have created unnecessary services running in the background (for example, just Facebook is three services Meta App Manager, Meta App Installer, Meta Services), antivirus, memory and other monitoring services, unnecessary animations, continuous weather update, lock screen service, tracking your physical activity and hundreds of other services, which they have switched on in your phone without your express permission, your phone will be slower and draining more battery. Even things like face unlock, tap to lock/unlock, raise to wake/flip to silent requires critical background processes like camera to be always on stand by and the entire screen scanning for touch even when it is off, gyroscope data etc. The least tinkering on the original OS is thus mostly better, you'd not get many fancy services, but you trust Google to do a better balancing with essential services and background apps. In this scale, Moto Edge 30 Pro is miles ahead of iQOO 7 Legend and Realme X7 Max, both of which have the same custom ROM with slightly altered skin and which in turn is so far ahead of Mi 11X that standing at where Edge 30 Pro is Mi 11X looks like a point in the distant horizon.


5 Heating: SD870 does not heat all, MTK1200 heats slightly, SD888 makes things warm, SD8G1 is toasty. After 30 minutes of gaming, you'd feel like resting SD8G1 because you don't want it to burst at your beautiful face. The worst part is heating is palpable when capturing videos. And while charging, it is warm like a comforting casserole. It is not just an inconvenience, heating while charging will scare you. So much that I am charging Edge 30 Pro using a 18W PD charger instead of 68W charger that came with it. Honest to God. 


6. Battery and Charging: Mi 11X lasts a long time charged up to 80-85% (very surprising given how awful the custom OS is), easily a day and a half. With Realme X7 Max, you are confident taking the 80-85% charged phone with you, it will not betray you. With iQOO 7 Legend, it's a hit or a miss, you are definitely packing your charger if you have a long day at work. Moto Edge 30 Pro is definitely going to need a charger, the battery usage graph drops almost vertically while playing a game. I don't have any confidence that it would last through a day. All these with same apps installed and same usage pattern which is very basic, online retail, some social media, some communication, phone-message, 30 minutes gaming, banking and other finance apps across all phones. Mi 11X with 33W charging is slow (but not like iPhone 8's 20W charging, which is really slow), Realme, iQOO and Moto all have 67W odd charging which is fastest in iQOO. As I said, I switched to a 18W PD charger for Moto and it is good enough, pretty close to Mi 11X. 


Conclusion: If you have a phone with has SD865-SD870-SD888-Dimensity1200 or higher with an FHD AMOLED display with 90 Hz or higher refresh rate, you should not upgrade right now to any phone (Moto or othwewise). You'd not see any difference no matter however hard you try. If you are getting excited about improved camera in newer phones, try installing correct GCam in your existing phone instead. If battery life of your current phone is depleted, a newer phone (with SD888/SDG1) will do even worse job than your existing phone, keep only necessary softwares, disable Facebook/Instagram and such rogue processes, tinker with background data access/background battery usage of some less important apps, turn on power saving (which stops background app refresh) when you are out or have a long day without access to a charging station. Do not lust over 120W, 240W, or 5KW charging, you do not want a ticking bomb in your physical proximity and 10 minutes saved in charging does not matter, . 


Unwarranted and Unnecessary Advice: Next time while buying a phone, consider buying an iPhone, even if they are more expensive, in the long run, you'd be happier than everyone else who have Android phones stuck at the same OS version it came with and you have the latest OS immediately after Apple has ended their presentation. My 2017 iPhone 8 is on iOS16 (with developer profile downloaded from betaprofiles.com). I don't think Google cares similarly about their Pixel lineup or provide OS updates for years, but then, I am not sure. Sorry for this advice, you may kick my @ ss for this paragraph, I'd understand. Sorry.


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avoided 😃😄

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fantastic review

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This is how a review should be...thank you..
Nowadays specs mean nothing
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i loved that phone design weary will avoid now.

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@sb120458 sticking with sd845 for another year after your review 😄

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I’m doing the same. Bought Vivo Nex for 21k 3 years back. Still working like a charm. Best value for money tech deal I got.

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This review is better than most of the tech reviews on YouTube. Thanks for your detailed review. VU

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Great review and highly appreciated 👍👍👍
Such real-life experience reviews from real users are very very beneficial.

Hope other people will also follow and review their new phones to help others.

And, pls tell me how to get the correct GCam?

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Well detailed review buddy, karma added "@sb120458":https://www.desidime.com/users/1...97

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Now someone will come and say

I am using this phone for a long time and have no issues 😛

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Great review, your last para lines up with my views. I've decided to use my G8X a year more
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How much karma can bumblefoot ji give @sb120458

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100

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Thanks for the detailed post.

This is much better than any other review on tech sites / you tube. It provides an indepth insight into how phones work and is useful for a layman also

And I agree, within a specific category, there is not going to be much difference between the phones

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After reading your review, very happy with my ip13 purchase. Appreciate your time on this review. Keep it up!

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Thanks for the review, comparison of different parameters of your previous phones was insightful.

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Thanks for the review , after having one plus Nord 2, I made up my mind to skip Android all together for my next purchases. Bought an iPad this year, will buy iPhone when next upgrade is due and then will change laptop to mac.
Seriously there is a vaccume left which can be filled only by having a proper competetor like apple only.

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@sb120458 Also post this in https://www.desidime.com/forums/store-reviews as a product review.

If site team finds that the review has ‘value-add’ then user (you) might get some token gifts.

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Thanks for the good review though. First of all you should avoid 8Gen1 processor as it has consumes more power which not only drains the battery but heats up. Dimensity 9000 is very good with same core config. Secondly, Moto phones camera are the worst I can say, the sensor they chose and the processing is very bad. Edge 30 is some what best camera among the moto phones. Lastly, RAM management is very poor in motorola phones. Coming to processors, 888 is very good and definitely one who wants a better experience should switch here. CPU not only helps in image processing, games etc., also in parallel computing and smooth experience without hanging. 
Regarding OS updates, many phone manufacturers are giving 3 years updates and it is fair enough for any phone. 99% of the users change the phone after 3-4 years and its apt giving the updates for 3 years.

Camera: choose a camera with good sensor and optics. Samsung GN2> GN1> Omnivision OV48C> IMX 709> IMX689 >etc., Ofcourse software we can use GCAM but good hardware too required.

Vs Iphone: I challenge to compare similar budget iphones to Vivo x80 or X80 pro, including Pixel 6 pro and any iphone, no where matches these phones in similar price bracket. Infact, they are far ahead of iphones. 

Not to offend anyone here but giving the right approach to choose the best phone with best hardware than the BRAND.

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I understand where you are coming from and i somewhat agree with you. 



Good camera system, lens, sensor definitely matters. That's why Hollywood (or recent Bollywood) films on giant screens of theaters look so amazing. Sensor is really important in videos when things are getting captured 24-30-60 frames per second and real time post processing options are limited on hand held devices and would take tens of hours in fastest workstations and TBs of storage. 

For still photos however, you can take any functional sensor and create masterpieces. If you look at astrophotography, people stack 5000-20000-100000 images to get shots of celestial bodies. No good sensor, however great they might be, can do it with one shot.

https://www.reddit.com/r/astrophotography/comme...

https://www.reddit.com/r/astrophotography/comme...

Google regularly publishes academic papers and blogs summarising these papers on how they are making leaps in post processing research. 

https://ai.googleblog.com/2021/04/hdr-with-brac...

An aside: On phone advertisements and marketing materials, companies use sensor pixel counts as a selling strategy but it is a big misdirection not because it is a lie or it doesn't matter, but because with 2 MP camera and slight hand shake (shakes measured in millimeters or even less), one can take 100 images and stitch them to create a photo which is as detailed as 200MP. The reason you'd not see videos in these advertisements or marketing presentations is videos often don't look great even in the top of the line Android phones. Alll the great photoshots they show are captured by professional photographers, composited,  stacked and copiously photoshopped in post processing to look so pleasing. That is why it is known to everyone in tech community, iPhones capture best videos. My iPhone 8 from 2017 capture way better videos than all the three Android phones i have mentioned. 

If you are old enough and used dialled up connection using BSNL phone lines, you'd know what I mean. Back in 2003-04, as a college-goer, we (it was so uncommon to possess a dial up internet and a computer that people congregated when good things happened) used to open some now defunct erotic websites (like Indian Father) and wait for photos to load. The photos would first get rendered as a blob of pixels, then some more pixels will be added from the top to bottom in each sweep, to finally get fully rendered in exquisite details after 25-30 seconds. It is the same principle with 2 MP camera capturing 200MP (or whatever megapixels you wish).


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Very Good Information and deatiled Review bro

But The phone u compared are flagship grade or Flagship killer (because of processor 888, D1200, 870, or 8 GEN 1) they don't have major difference in Day to day life usage only some difference are here/there b/w them 

but in Budget Range Phones there are many differences like some phones are using D700, D900 or g85, g35, g25 g96 , 665, 675, 720g processor so they have vast difference between them in Day to day life as well as other benchmarks and in cameras & displays are different , too 

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Guilty as charged.


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I think I will also go with apple as well.( Possible but not sure) I’ll think of upgrading in next 2 years. I currently hv moto edge 30 n don’t feel the camera is good and also the lag part( lags with 5 or 8 apps open when I am just trying to close them,even though they are mostly browser , desidime shopping app and coc).
Even though it’s costly, I will go for one generation older iphone like  when iphone 17 launches , I’ll buy 15 or 16. Its resale value is also higher. Might put a dent in the pocket but it’s ok, it isn’t that bad a deal.
Plus it’s choices that u hv to make while choosing a phone urself, I now don’t criticise any phone user. It's just their choices depending upon circumstances. Just don't buy on emi, if u seriously can't afford it , plz leave it. It's not an out of this world thing.

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All Sd Gen 1 phones have same problem,  battery drain. Moto edge 30 pro, xiaomi 12 pro, Realme GT 2 Pro.  These phones need rooting and heavy debloating to get 6 hours SOT + 24 hours standby during normal usage. 

Camera vary model to model.

As per speed, I disagree. I have Poco F1, Mi 11x and Realme GT 2 Pro. During Normal use,  we dont see difference.  However on heavy sites, like google news, difference is very noticable. Realme GT 2 Pro is twice better than Mi 11x on heavy sites and apps. During gaming,  it quickly heating and cools as well due to large heat sink. 

Mid rangers like Mi 11x,  though at present support game like bgmi, but will feels lagging after 1 year as games getting heavier. 

I agree, SD 8 gen1 is battery drainer,  so If you are spending 50k+,  then wait for few months to launch SD 8+GEN1 Mobiles

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From my experience, the best buys in the Android world are the previous versions of Galaxy S series. They always used to have 2 OS upgrades which they bumped to 3 and now 4! Even Google doesn't do that for their Pixels. The OS is also optimized more on the S series than A/M/F series. I used to recommend Moto G phones a lot but once they went to the Chinese, OS upgrades disappeared. I dislike all Chinese brands for their OS though their hardware can be quite good. I've used an iPhone too but the lack of customizability made me sell it off on Olx. Simple users can possibly get an iPhone and be happy with it.
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exception being Galaxy S duos. Came with 4.0.4 ICS.  Ended with 4.0.4 ics. 😥 Network losing capable😂 You wont get incoming even phone sgowing full bars. Missing touch on gaming capable. 😁 10k phone which couldn’t play temple run due to missing touches😂  

Tab se samsung ko BIGG NO kar diya h.

Only single sim variants in S series were good. Indian dual SIM variants were like pirated copies.

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@sb120458 bro thank you for detailed review. I understand that SD870 is good compared to other new chpsets. So do you suggest iQOO Neo 6 5G? I don't play games in phone. Just casual use for phone calls, browsing, FB, DD) Currently I am using Redmi note 10 pro, but it's piece of shit, its heats up even when not using. Vowifi/volte suddenly goes off without notification. I thought of Realme GT neo 3, but they increased cost after 1st week. One plus 10R also at similar price. Got invite for nothing, but don't know the price and how it works etc., so didn't paid for pre-book.

Any good phone suggestions welcome. (iPhone is out of equation as the price is high and very less features. Recently checked my friends iPhone 13. No fingerprint sensor. Facelock works sometime and won't work often. No fast charging, not great battery back up) 
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I can suggest only phones that I have used. IQOO 9 SE (which is very similar to iQOO 7 Legend I am using) seems to me one of the best phones right now. I am by no means any expert, please use your own judgment while decision making.

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Thank you
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Thanks for this practical and Detailed Review. Kg+
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Good review. Phones have definitely reached a good enough status since last few years. I have been using a Redmi Note 4 since 2018 and it is now running latest Android 12 with GCam very smoothly. It doesn't have a great camera or screen but it gets the job done good enough. I'll keep using it as long as it keeps getting latest updates.

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This is as honest as it gets and thanks a lot.

You should continue writing reviews in the future as well.


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Good explanation
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Dear @sb120458 could you please share your review now after 1 month of purchase and latest updates and camera quality, as I'm planning to buy it for this sale moto edge 30, thank you in advance!

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Moto edge 30 is different from Moto edge 30 pro. If I were you, I'd not make a decision based on a review for a different phone by the same firm. 

As far as camera quality is concerned, as i am not evaluating multiple phones at the same time, i am happy with still photos from GCam in this phone and to be perfectly honest, i have taken less than 50 photos till date. Whenever i capture videos, i use iPhone 8, mostly out of habit. Battery and heating is due to Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 and i do not think that's an issue with Snapdragon 778G. 

I am not a reviewer, i do not have any exposure to a phone with 778G SOC. 

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