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Discussion/News on Risks involved in taking  AstraZeneca  for COVID-19

While waiting for the final decision on the controversial vaccine, Norway has decided to distribute its stock of AstraZeneca to fellow Nordic countries that actually want to use them despite the associated risks.

Norwegians run a greater risk of dying from being inoculated with AstraZeneca’s vaccine than from COVID-19, the National Institute of Public Health (FHI) concluded in its analysis, recommending the vaccine, previously linked to serious complications in the form of rare blood clotting and haemorrhage amid low platelet counts.

So far, Norway has seen five cases of serious incidents reported shortly after vaccination, with three fatalities. FHI has calculated the mortality rate from the AstraZeneca vaccine as 2.3 people per 100,000 vaccinated.

https://sputniknews.com/europe/2021042310827046...

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Prefer Indian vaccines. Foreign vaccines have more side effects

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Sputnik news? Is it russian, Russia wants their Sputnik vaccine to be used??

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badkarma wrote:

Prefer Indian vaccines. Foreign vaccines have more side effects

Covieshield uses foreign vaccine

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badkarma wrote:

Prefer Indian vaccines. Foreign vaccines have more side effects

Indian Vaccines?? As in Plural? Which ones?

COVAXIN & Coronil

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Just saying btw ,many anti vaccine shiatsu rumours going on ,be careful and get vaccinated smile)

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B3A5T wrote:

Indian Vaccines?? As in Plural? Which ones?

COVAXIN & Coronil

Coronil ?? Seriously?

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Be positive
And think of benefits of getting saved from vaccine if you get corona

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Corona death rate is 1%.

Then how 2.3 people per lakh exceed that corona death figure?

Do you know Arthemetic.?

You kept sensational title for thread. But dont even know maths. Sad.

Please take action regarding corona misinformation.

@deb3l @Mayavi @bumblefoot

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B3A5T wrote:

Indian Vaccines?? As in Plural? Which ones?

COVAXIN & Coronil

Covaxin & covishield(coronil is fake news). mRNA is the latest tech & so far seems to be the best option as per reports available till now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_v...ne

As of April 2021, 13 vaccines are authorized by at least one national regulatory authority for public use: two RNA vaccines (the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine and the Moderna vaccine), five conventional inactivated vaccines (BBIBP-CorV, CoronaVac, Covaxin, WIBP-CorV and CoviVac), four viral vector vaccines (Sputnik V, the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine, Convidecia, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine), and two protein subunit vaccines (EpiVacCorona and RBD-Dimer).

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raman12 wrote:

Sputnik news? Is it russian, Russia wants their Sputnik vaccine to be used??

Yes, yes… I am waiting… smile toungueout

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Bk100 wrote:

*Corona death rate is 1%.

Then how 2.3 people per lakh exceed that corona death figure?*

Do you know Arthemetic.?

You kept sensational title for thread. But dont even know maths. Sad.

Please take action regarding corona misinformation.

@deb3l @Mayavi @bumblefoot

You’re considering the generic death figure here
COVID-19 mortality rate is much higher in the case of older people + those with co-morbidities

// So far, Norway has seen five cases of serious incidents reported shortly after vaccination, with three fatalities. FHI has calculated the mortality rate from the AstraZeneca vaccine as 2.3 people per 100,000 vaccinated. //

There are no details but those 2.3/100000 died because of vaccination (Shortly or after few days?) and the one who died could also be 30+? 20+? or those without any previous bad health record?
What’s the probability.. these 20+/30+ w/o any health issues dying because of COVID-19?

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getready wrote:

You’re considering the generic death figure here
COVID-19 mortality rate is much higher in the case of older people + those with co-morbidities

// So far, Norway has seen five cases of serious incidents reported shortly after vaccination, with three fatalities. FHI has calculated the mortality rate from the AstraZeneca vaccine as 2.3 people per 100,000 vaccinated. //

There are no details but those 2.3/100000 died because of vaccination (Shortly or after few days?) and the one who died could also be 30+? 20+? or those without any previous bad health record?
What’s the probability.. these 20+/30+ w/o any health issues dying because of COVID-19?

Title was sensational and unwanted at this stage of pandemic.

So it was reported and admin taken action and removed sensational unverified title from this thread.

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getready wrote:

You’re considering the generic death figure here
COVID-19 mortality rate is much higher in the case of older people + those with co-morbidities

// So far, Norway has seen five cases of serious incidents reported shortly after vaccination, with three fatalities. FHI has calculated the mortality rate from the AstraZeneca vaccine as 2.3 people per 100,000 vaccinated. //

There are no details but those 2.3/100000 died because of vaccination (Shortly or after few days?) and the one who died could also be 30+? 20+? or those without any previous bad health record?
What’s the probability.. these 20+/30+ w/o any health issues dying because of COVID-19?

You can check death retio here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coron...

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Bk100 wrote:

Title was sensational and unwanted at this stage of pandemic.

So it was reported and admin taken action and removed sensational unverified title from this thread.

Yeah it was very disturbing indeed. We shouldnt be creating panic among people with such statements.

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Bk100 wrote:

Title was sensational and unwanted at this stage of pandemic.

So it was reported and admin taken action and removed sensational unverified title from this thread.

May be it is sensational/unwanted
but you cannot rule out the possibility

Vaccination might not cause death to majority of the people (Say 99.9%?) but people should understand there is certain risk involved & there is no data on how vaccines react to different people

Recently i’ve come across this one incident where a popular comedian who got suddenly sick (critical*) very soon after vaccination shot (less than 24 hours) and died (COVID-19 Negative)
https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/actor-v...

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Bk100 wrote:

You can check death retio here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coron...

You have no idea.. really.. Not even going to bother to check your link.

Whats the death rate from influenza and the flu in the last year? Bet you dont have the numbers.. They are all added to the same death figures..

And this risk is for this particular medication none of which has been tested.. Unless in high risk category I would not get vaccinated unless it sputnik or similar which has 95% efficiency and far lower risks of serious side effects and at least tested to a small extent..

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getready wrote:

May be it is sensational/unwanted
but you cannot rule out the possibility

Vaccination might not cause death to majority of the people (Say 99.9%?) but people should understand there is certain risk involved & there is no data on how vaccines react to different people

Recently i’ve come across this one incident where a popular comedian who got vaccinated suddenly got sick (critical*) just after a day he got vaccined and died (COVID-19 Negative)
https://www.firstpost.com/entertainment/actor-v...

Now india Inoculated over 12 crore
People since jan 16.

How many people dead out of this?

Why so much hate for this vaccines? 🥺

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Bk100 wrote:

You can check death retio here.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coron...

There is no data

When analyzing the breakdown of deaths by age and condition [source], we can observe how, out of 15,230 confirmed deaths in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition (or for which it is unknown whether they had or did not have an underlying condition).

Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, and Obesity [source]

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getready wrote:

You’re considering the generic death figure here
COVID-19 mortality rate is much higher in the case of older people + those with co-morbidities

// So far, Norway has seen five cases of serious incidents reported shortly after vaccination, with three fatalities. FHI has calculated the mortality rate from the AstraZeneca vaccine as 2.3 people per 100,000 vaccinated. //

There are no details but those 2.3/100000 died because of vaccination (Shortly or after few days?) and the one who died could also be 30+? 20+? or those without any previous bad health record?
What’s the probability.. these 20+/30+ w/o any health issues dying because of COVID-19?

Well yes data is misleading.. But what is not misleading is, there are risks and you have to consider them.. Even taking polio vaccines has risks since thousands who took it developed polio.. I have not seen anyone talk about risks here.. All they want is the vaccine.. You have to consider your state of health, efficiency, your risk profile and check if taking it is better or not and what to take. Most who has taken it dont even know which vaccine they even took..

Seen a lot of old people go take it because they hate sitting at home..

Thats the wrong reason for one… and also They did not even think about their own health.

Norwegians run a greater risk of dying from being inoculated with AstraZeneca’s vaccine than from COVID-19, the National Institute of Public Health (FHI) concluded in its analysis, recommending the vaccine, previously linked to serious complications in the form of
rare blood clotting and haemorrhage amid low platelet counts.

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getready wrote:

There is no data

When analyzing the breakdown of deaths by age and condition [source], we can observe how, out of 15,230 confirmed deaths in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition (or for which it is unknown whether they had or did not have an underlying condition).

Underlying illnesses include Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, and Obesity [source]

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Therefore, the crude mortality rate has the potential to more than triple from our current estimate, reaching close to 1,000 deaths per 100,000 population (1% CMR), and close to 300 per 100,000 (0.3% CMR) in the population under 65 years old, with 89% of these deaths (267 out of 300) occurring in people with a known underlying medical condition (including obesity).

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Bk100 wrote:

Now india Inoculated over 12 crore
People since jan 16.

How many people dead out of this?

Why so much hate for this vaccines? 🥺

So, which doctor certified that the death is due to vaccine shot here?
I neither hate vaccines or love them.. you got to understand that risk factor especially when the reasons (for death) still remain unknown in many cases
If you think i’m glorifying the hate towards vaccinations highlighting the possibility of 0.1 casulatities.. then good luck with that!

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guest_999 wrote:

Covaxin & covishield(coronil is fake news). mRNA is the latest tech & so far seems to be the best option as per reports available till now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_v...ne

As of April 2021, 13 vaccines are authorized by at least one national regulatory authority for public use: two RNA vaccines (the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine and the Moderna vaccine), five conventional inactivated vaccines (BBIBP-CorV, CoronaVac, Covaxin, WIBP-CorV and CoviVac), four viral vector vaccines (Sputnik V, the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine, Convidecia, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine), and two protein subunit vaccines (EpiVacCorona and RBD-Dimer).

This is not possible in india.. You cant even get good frozen ice cream and you want a vaccine???

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getready wrote:

So, which doctor certified that the death is due to vaccine shot here?
I neither hate vaccines or love them.. you got to understand that risk factor especially when the reasons (for death) still remain unknown in many cases
If you think i’m glorifying the hate towards vaccinations highlighting the possibility of 0.1 casulatities.. then good luck with that!

Where is 0.1% casualties due to vaccines.? Please specify source for this figures.
It is clear case of hate only.

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Bk100 wrote:

This part also read.

Therefore, the crude mortality rate has the potential to more than triple from our current estimate, reaching close to 1,000 deaths per 100,000 population (1% CMR), and close to 300 per 100,000 (0.3% CMR) in the population under 65 years old, with 89% of these deaths (267 out of 300) occurring in people with a known underlying medical condition (including obesity).

We don’t know what percentage of the population in this age group has an underlying condition, so at this time we are not able to accurately estimate the fatality rate for the under 65 years old and healthy.

Someone made a blind estimation and you’re referring this as source
(Refer my original post now >> https://www.desidime.com/discussions/risk-of-dy... )
This is a clear case of “Whatever you name it”

Don’t pay attention to numbers (there is no concrete data).. consider the personal risk factor and decide if you want to get vaccinated or not!

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Bk100 wrote:

Where is 0.1% casualties due to vaccines.? Please specify source for this figures.
It is clear case of hate only.

At an old age home in Spain 38 patients and the 2 doctors died after taking pfizers vaccine.. Why is that not news?? So all your numbers are fake.. Then they dumped half a millions doses because they had gone bad due to bad refrigeration.. There is absolutely no link to either..

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getready wrote:

We don’t know what percentage of the population in this age group has an underlying condition, so at this time we are not able to accurately estimate the fatality rate for the under 65 years old and healthy.

Someone made a blind estimation and you’re referring this as source
(Refer my original post now >> https://www.desidime.com/discussions/risk-of-dy... )
This is a clear case of “Whatever you name it”

Don’t pay attention to numbers (there is no concrete data).. consider the personal risk factor and decide if you want to get vaccinated or not!

The available data from some small Nordic and European countries says morbidity rates are between regular flu and Spanish flu.. And affect similar demographics.. (0.01%-0.03% and lockdowns overall dont change it..) Deaths from other causes are not eounted here.. Why not??

Practicing safe hygiene and safety is the only way.. lockdowns might reduce deaths due to the virus.. But how about deaths due to rape and child molestation? and suicide..

THIS is where I have a problem with modi coin holders and rational people.. They publicize sensational news that fit their agenda.. lockdowns except for very short duration causes far more harm than the virus.. But they hide that data as well..

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