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SSD speeds of 2000/3000/7000MBps explained & why they are misleading

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I often see people comparing ssd based only on their max advertised speeds like 2000, 3000, 7000MBps etc without realizing that in most scenarios this is practically meaningless for a typical user. To understand these speeds one first need to understand basic classification of speeds of ssd/hdd which is as below:

1. Sequential speed: This is the speed which you get when copying a large file(say 1gb video file).

2. Random speed: This is the speed which your operating system(windows/linux/android) uses(aka boot, restart, software open etc) & is also used when transferring large number of small size files(say a folder with hundreds of photos each with size around few hundred kb or mb).

Rule of thumb is, sequential speeds are always much more than random speeds. Think of it as a Ferrari with 0 to 100kmph in 5 seconds given a 1 km road in case of sequential speed & a 20m stretch in case of random speed & you can imagine the avg speed achieved by Ferrari in both cases. For Hindi users it can be more humorously explained by below meme.

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Basically, a device can never utilize its full speeds for random speed because by the time the device would have achieved its max speeds the task is already finished so again start from zero.

Now the second most important thing to consider is, Bottleneck.

Imagine you are waiting at a traffic signal for green light & in front of you is a manual non-motor rickshaw with no space to overtake it from side. Once the light turn green the rickshaw start moving at 10kmph & your vehicle will also need to move at same speed to avoid collision until that rickshaw move out of your front or you get some side space to overtake it. In this case rickshaw is your vehicle's bottleneck. Similarly in case of any device speed achieved in a system/process one need to take a look at what is the bottleneck because no device speed can be more than the bottleneck in the system/process.

Most people have laptop/desktop with hdd or sata ssd so using them as source/destination with a 5000MB/s NVMe ssd will result in them being the bottleneck & one will never see more than 150MB/s(typical HDD max sequential speed) or 500MB/s(typical sata ssd max sequential speed) during transfer. To see the 5000/7000MB/s speed during transfer one need two of such NVMe ssd installed within the same pc(laptop/desktop) with one acting as source & other as destination to remove the bottleneck.

So to conclude, don't buy a ssd just based on its max advertised speed which is always its max sequential speed. Decide based on your usage(more sequential data transfer usage or more random data transfer usage) & the bottleneck in your system(system already having hdd/sata ssd or only 1 NVMe slot).

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teriab33 wrote:

This is the READ & WRITE test report from my ANT Esports SSD ( one of the cheapest ssd drives available online at the moment ) their performance report matches what is advertised by the company. Value for money. Performs better on tests, compared to the other branded overpriced SSD drive I am having.

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There are only 4 companies which make ssd chips, micron/crucial, samsung, sk hynix & kioxia. All other brands just use chips from one of these 4 companies.
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List of solid-state drive manufacturers - Wikipedia

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This is the READ & WRITE test report from my ANT Esports SSD ( one of the cheapest ssd drives available online at the moment ) their performance report matches what is advertised by the company. Value for money. Performs better on tests, compared to the other branded overpriced SSD drive I am having.

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There are only 4 companies which make ssd chips, micron/crucial, samsung, sk hynix & kioxia. All other brands just use chips from one of these 4 companies.
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List of solid-state drive manufacturers - Wikipedia

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Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp (YMTC) is a Chinese semiconductor integrated device manufacturer specializing in flash memory (NAND) chips.
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There are only 4 companies which make ssd chips, micron/crucial, samsung, sk hynix & kioxia. All other brands just use chips from one of these 4 companies.
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Aha so basically Kioxia was spun off from the Toshiba ,wasn't aware of that.Now Kioxia and WD are getting closer to a merger deal.Cool!!

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I missed floppy 💾 disk after seeing his h ghu mannu R4 I léeë

What do you mean ? confused

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Nice post. Feeling good seeing some person with a good knowledge wrote this.

But it always feels good to have a ferari instead of maruti 800 even in city traffic 😂

The better ones are the ones having TLC(doesn't get slowed down as fast as qlc)  and dram.

I can feel the difference between a dram and dramless SSD(nvme) and i see the difference between pcie and sata ssd.

If budget permits go for slightly higher variant(may be one with dram or tlc)as they give better life .

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This really useful Knowledge about to Read or Write Speed in SSD for People who really now value about Read or Write Speed In Data Storage Device when they worked on a Havey Project like Graphic design, Video editing, GFX design etc or more Havey Tasks in their Desktop 🖥️ or Laptop computer .

Good plus1.

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What do you mean ? confused

This comment was posted in half sleep that's why even I don't know what i typed 🤣 don't get confused bro, it's nothing
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Higher the IOPS better the SSD for general performance and gaming

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year ago bought Crucial MX500 1TB for old laptop with no nvme slot. I think this was the max best speed. BX500 was cheaper but gets bottlenecked at 90% storage because of no dedicated dram/cache chip thing, while MX500 stays fast till end. So actually both cost same. And as I wanted full 1TB I got MX500 not 10% cheaper BX500.

Earlier used RAMDISK and VRAMDISK for loading a daily game and changed cache folder to VRAMDisk, with laptop ON forever. But one day on restarting %locales% %cache% went missing and could not be fixed on defaulting cache folder. Had to format windows ,.

95% laptops are expensive trash with soldered parts or limited slots (only 1 extra slot mostly). So, want to properly put battery in a mini-PC and just carry portable screen and that mini-pc

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Agnivo007 wrote:
Forgot this?

Yangtze Memory Technologies Corp (YMTC) is a Chinese semiconductor integrated device manufacturer specializing in flash memory (NAND) chips.
It's not there in wiki so maybe only for Chinese companies/products sold inside China.
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Nice explanation, it will definitely make a difference in selecting SSDs from various manufacturers.

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Very well drafted. Karma goes to u.

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bottleneck is the thing that we should concentrate to yank the overall speed in the system.

btw pls tell the nominal speeds inside Motherboard circuit , CPU chip. It is parallel or serial communication 

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bottleneck is the thing that we should concentrate to yank the overall speed in the system.

btw pls tell the nominal speeds inside Motherboard circuit , CPU chip. It is parallel or serial communication 

Speeds inside processor nowadays are measured in GHz(aka how many instructions/cycles processor can execute in 1 second) but you seem to be talking about "read speeds" in which case L1 cache is the fastest such place inside any pc & can reach speeds up to 1TB/s for typical processor. That is why a processor is never a bottleneck during data transfer, it is always the storage medium(hdd/ssd/interface in case of external devices).
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realaxis2010 wrote:

bottleneck is the thing that we should concentrate to yank the overall speed in the system.

btw pls tell the nominal speeds inside Motherboard circuit , CPU chip. It is parallel or serial communication 

Inside SOC/CPU, everything is parallel. Anything external to soc like DRAM, PCIE or USB are converted to serial before exiting the SoC and deserial i.e parallel again after data comes back into SoC. The same serial and parallel conversion happens in DRAM and PCIe devices too infact in every chip external interaction is always serial and inside is always parallel and you change based on where data is going

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How much more time this laptop Hard drive has got??😬

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Ash-D wrote:

How much more time this laptop Hard drive has got??😬

Seems good but 250516 raw value of load unload count is a bit high. By default crystaldiskinfo show raw values in hexadecimal format, you can make it appear in typical decimal number system values by going to function--advanced features--raw values & select 10[DEC] option. For this issue go to function--advanced feature--AAM/APM control & in the new popup window select the slider to extreme right towards "Performance" & click on enable button. Then close the window & go to function--advanced feature & select/tick "auto AAM/APM adaption" option.


P.S. Go to function & select "hide serial number" to hide serial no. info in screenshot.

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Seems good but 250516 raw value of load unload count is a bit high. By default crystaldiskinfo show raw values in hexadecimal format, you can make it appear in typical decimal number system values by going to function--advanced features--raw values & select 10[DEC] option. For this issue go to function--advanced feature--AAM/APM control & in the new popup window select the slider to extreme right towards "Performance" & click on enable button. Then close the window & go to function--advanced feature & select/tick "auto AAM/APM adaption" option.


P.S. Go to function & select "hide serial number" to hide serial no. info in screenshot.

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Ps : Also removed serial no. from my earlier post. Please remove my image from your quote.

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Ash-D wrote:

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Ps : Also removed serial no. from my earlier post. Please remove my image from your quote.

G-sense error rate value very unusual(basically your hdd g-sense value capacity is almost finished) as this value is supposed to indicate physical shocks experienced & should not be like this unless being moved around often. Check if laptop hdd is securely fitted inside laptop(screws are tight).
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G-sense error rate value very unusual(basically your hdd g-sense value capacity is almost finished) as this value is supposed to indicate physical shocks experienced & should not be like this unless being moved around often. Check if laptop hdd is securely fitted inside laptop(screws are tight).

Yeah bro I move it quite often here & there to find a comfortable place 😅

I have opened my laptop recently & hdd is fixed very securely no loose screws.

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Ash-D wrote:

Yeah bro I move it quite often here & there to find a comfortable place 😅

I have opened my laptop recently & hdd is fixed very securely no loose screws.

Keep an eye on this parameter raw value to see how it increases every day. Though it seems like a malfunctioning sensor as you checked hdd is secured properly.
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Am using oem m.2 using usb 3.1+ cable interface on sabrent external adapter.

It is the one of fastest speed  found on planet currently grinning

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The biggest issue on ssd is wearability of drives. Use it a cache for steam or os never important docs unless enterprise ssd

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dpak4u wrote:

The biggest issue on ssd is wearability of drives. Use it a cache for steam or os never important docs unless enterprise ssd

That holds true for any storage device because no storage medium is 100% failure proof. As for typical usage there is no issue with ssd unless you download 50-100GB torrents every day or keep your ssd turned off for months.
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