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The night light robbery: How the LED bulb industry ensures that we keep buying..!!

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Wanted to share below information thar I came across regarding LED lighting Mafia.....infamous Phoebus cartel

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/science/story/the...
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Any good LED bulb with 5-star BIS rating?

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The (light emitting) diode (if properly built) would have almost unending lifespan.

It is the drivers (PCB/circuitary) which fail most of the time.

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The ratings, in the world of less innovation and more dependence on contract manufacturing (China), barely make for a strong case to choose one over the another.

Product differentiation is gone.

But still, instead of pure trading brands (like Syska, Bajaj electricals, others).. it might be better to buy a product from some company which still has an in-house R&D team.

Philips, despite outsourcing to China, might still have tighter control on the product.

Other companies too are there, but costlier than Philips.

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Else if okay to keep up with the me too (reverse engineered copies) then all importer traders like Syska, Bajaj and others are there.

Wipro's lighting division too has some in-house R&D, even though importing a lot of their product lines.

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Local electronic shops repair them for cheap. 🙂

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Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

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Disclaimer: Haven't yet clicked on the link (as I prefer not to give my advertising dollar, views, attention to such unethical entities, media conglomerates).

While generally it now is a reality that they don't make people or products which are meant to last
or even take half as much stress as those in the past

the actual Phoebus cartel has been LONG dead.

This is not to say that generally people, relationships, processes, products are getting any better.
As we can see, people break down faster. Relationships break down even faster and so do processes, products.

In general, now we too live in an era of the snowflake generation.
The generation of 'instant gratification' and we will rather move on, than wait.
Long format content, reporting, videos has gradually given way to 'seemingly' obnoxious, futile 'shorts, stories, statuses and so on.

Lifespan of EVERYthing is getting shorter, I guess.
This (products having shorter life cycles) to me, merely seems like an effect, not a cause.
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Good info brother

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I bought Eveready led bulbs , they got dead in 3-4 months, as they were under warranty, i approached service centre ,they told me to courier to their place and they will send me  new ones.

I did, and got the new one's too ,and again that won't last for more than 6 months.

I found that cost of shipping is too high and m spending almost the cost of bulb.

So i stopped getting ot exchanged.

This is a consumer market, all are running after profits, no promises kept by any company.

Havels has the same story too.

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saw this article... true ... so much failure rate in new bulbs!

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Failures is common now in every electronic products- from cellphones to washing machines.

Even mega rich companies like samsung are into such malpractices.

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if i remember correctly, once upon a time they used to make bulbs which lasts 100 of years (one of them still working google it) but then 1929 recession came and by law US or their companies decided to not make things which lasts so long otherwise after a time they cant sell their products at all 😃

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Itni electricity thi hi ni kiya 100 years run kre

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Bought megaway brand from pepperfry in 2013-14 around Still working good
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Buy from dmart, you can get pigeon led bulb and tubelight for cheap and it has 2 years warranty and dmart store instantly replaces in case of warranty claim

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in case this makes anybody feel good, Philips was part of that mafia and now they are in decline, they sold all of their business and now only own some sections of it.

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Eveready is worst, they don't last long and you don't get any warranty support

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Then buying such things from Dmart physical store is better.

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In case of D-mart, they offer ready support/ replacement for such products, if bought from their store and invoice number etcetera is saved by the customer.

Or at-least D-mart used to help. Haven't got much experience after pandemic and after Ukraine-Russia issues.

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Bulbs  tubelights fans other electronics all used to work for years  with guarantee  , then  came  warranty , and now even no value of warranty,  these greedy companies  charge so much  and make substandard products to last  little .

See how smartphones  are  downgraded in quality and further downgraded in  name  of updates

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You seem to be above 35-36 years of age to remember the distinction
OR
may be (you are) generally intelligent.

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sbse tatti to Syska hai 

sala , itne sare bulb khraab ho gye mere .. 😒

or local shop se liya hua led 1 saal se zyada chl gya ..fake SYSKA

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