The night light robbery: How the LED bulb industry ensures that we keep buying..!!

Any good LED bulb with 5-star BIS rating?

Local electronic shops repair them for cheap. 🙂

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While generally it now is a reality that they don't make people or products which are meant to last
or even take half as much stress as those in the past

the actual Phoebus cartel has been LONG dead.

This is not to say that generally people, relationships, processes, products are getting any better.
As we can see, people break down faster. Relationships break down even faster and so do processes, products.

In general, now we too live in an era of the snowflake generation.
The generation of 'instant gratification' and we will rather move on, than wait.
Long format content, reporting, videos has gradually given way to 'seemingly' obnoxious, futile 'shorts, stories, statuses and so on.

Lifespan of EVERYthing is getting shorter, I guess.
This (products having shorter life cycles) to me, merely seems like an effect, not a cause.

Good info brother

yolodime wrote:

Any good LED bulb with 5-star BIS rating?

The (light emitting) diode (if properly built) would have almost unending lifespan.

It is the drivers (PCB/circuitary) which fail most of the time.

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The ratings, in the world of less innovation and more dependence on contract manufacturing (China), barely make for a strong case to choose one over the another.

Product differentiation is gone.

But still, instead of pure trading brands (like Syska, Bajaj electricals, others).. it might be better to buy a product from some company which still has an in-house R&D team.

Philips, despite outsourcing to China, might still have tighter control on the product.

Other companies too are there, but costlier than Philips.

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Else if okay to keep up with the me too (reverse engineered copies) then all importer traders like Syska, Bajaj and others are there.

Wipro's lighting division too has some in-house R&D, even though importing a lot of their product lines.

bikidas2060 wrote:

Local electronic shops repair them for cheap. 🙂

Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

BlueFlash wrote:

Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

20 rs in my locality 

BlueFlash wrote:

Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

Still do it for 10~30 rupees. 🙂🙂🙂🙏

yolodime wrote:

Any good LED bulb with 5-star BIS rating?

Crompton Lyor

I bought them in Dec 2020, they are still working fine (they were 5 star back then, but I think BIS ratings changed after that) I bought 8W bulbs

How ever Havells 4star bulbs which bought around 1.25 years back started failing.

Now I can see only Crompton 10W bulbs 4 star, I am also looking for 5 star LED, but could not find anything.

I am looking at Cropton Lyor or Philips Eco full glass(thought of giving a try)

If you can get Philips Dubai Lamps from someone, they work great it seems

bikidas2060 wrote:

Local electronic shops repair them for cheap. 🙂

They wont last more than 30 days

I bought Eveready led bulbs , they got dead in 3-4 months, as they were under warranty, i approached service centre ,they told me to courier to their place and they will send me  new ones.

I did, and got the new one's too ,and again that won't last for more than 6 months.

I found that cost of shipping is too high and m spending almost the cost of bulb.

So i stopped getting ot exchanged.

This is a consumer market, all are running after profits, no promises kept by any company.

Havels has the same story too.

saw this article... true ... so much failure rate in new bulbs!

if i remember correctly, once upon a time they used to make bulbs which lasts 100 of years (one of them still working google it) but then 1929 recession came and by law US or their companies decided to not make things which lasts so long otherwise after a time they cant sell their products at all 😃

Jarvis.-. wrote:

if i remember correctly, once upon a time they used to make bulbs which lasts 100 of years (one of them still working google it) but then 1929 recession came and by law US or their companies decided to not make things which lasts so long otherwise after a time they cant sell their products at all 😃

Itni electricity thi hi ni kiya 100 years run kre

BlueFlash wrote:

Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

20 in my area can last 8 month to 15 month more

kartikxxx wrote:

They wont last more than 30 days

Bhai, yahan acha repair karte hain. 6 months pahle repair karwaya tha still runs fine. 🙂🙂

kartikxxx wrote:

They wont last more than 30 days

I've different brand's LED bulbs like Philips, Eveready, Wipro, Halmax, and a unknown chinese brand. 

Most of them are working fine for years. 

And if it got faulty, I got it fixed myself by removing the faulty LED. This is the most common fault with LEDs. And it's easily working for months/year.

Bought megaway brand from pepperfry in 2013-14 around Still working good

BlueFlash wrote:

Bhau, do they still do this ?

Long back when LED bulbs were introduced in market, when the prices used to like 500+ in general, then they used to repair... nowadays the prices are pretty low, and mostly the driver is the culprit (using cheap electronics), so not sure if they still do it... and any rough estimate how much they charge and how long does it last ?

20 ₹ in my locality (with 3 months warranty )

Buy from dmart, you can get pigeon led bulb and tubelight for cheap and it has 2 years warranty and dmart store instantly replaces in case of warranty claim

in case this makes anybody feel good, Philips was part of that mafia and now they are in decline, they sold all of their business and now only own some sections of it.

Eveready is worst, they don't last long and you don't get any warranty support

bikidas2060 wrote:

Local electronic shops repair them for cheap. 🙂

In my area i once went to ask  the shopkeeper  of he repairs  , he  starred at me and said  repairing wala  jamana  gaya , use and throw ,buy new one  .  If  i ask Rs 50 you will not pay and yourself say in Rs 70 - 80  new will come with warranty  .

in mumbai

The.Slayer wrote:
and you don't get any warranty support

Then buying such things from Dmart physical store is better.

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In case of D-mart, they offer ready support/ replacement for such products, if bought from their store and invoice number etcetera is saved by the customer.

Or at-least D-mart used to help. Haven't got much experience after pandemic and after Ukraine-Russia issues.

Bulbs  tubelights fans other electronics all used to work for years  with guarantee  , then  came  warranty , and now even no value of warranty,  these greedy companies  charge so much  and make substandard products to last  little .

See how smartphones  are  downgraded in quality and further downgraded in  name  of updates

Loaferg wrote:

In my area i once went to ask  the shopkeeper  of he repairs  , he  starred at me and said  repairing wala  jamana  gaya , use and throw ,buy new one  .  If  i ask Rs 50 you will not pay and yourself say in Rs 70 - 80  new will come with warranty  .

in mumbai

Same

sbse tatti to Syska hai 

sala , itne sare bulb khraab ho gye mere .. 😒

or local shop se liya hua led 1 saal se zyada chl gya ..fake SYSKA

pradeep.gr wrote:

I've different brand's LED bulbs like Philips, Eveready, Wipro, Halmax, and a unknown chinese brand. 

Most of them are working fine for years. 

And if it got faulty, I got it fixed myself by removing the faulty LED. This is the most common fault with LEDs. And it's easily working for months/year.

Any video to learn this?

wackophant wrote:

Crompton Lyor

I bought them in Dec 2020, they are still working fine (they were 5 star back then, but I think BIS ratings changed after that) I bought 8W bulbs

How ever Havells 4star bulbs which bought around 1.25 years back started failing.

Now I can see only Crompton 10W bulbs 4 star, I am also looking for 5 star LED, but could not find anything.

I am looking at Cropton Lyor or Philips Eco full glass(thought of giving a try)

If you can get Philips Dubai Lamps from someone, they work great it seems

thanks for the reco