Dont understand the reason to move out of India to earn, when foreign Investors are focusing towards Indian market.
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Plenty of opportunities already there in India
Does it really make sense to leave family/friends/colleagues, for earning – when plenty of opportunities already here…..
Situation here during 19th century was different, and people use to move out.
But…. now a days things have almost changed
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@hackerboys wrote:
bro i think outside India , the things would be changing and lyf would be different ,, ppl want to enjoy outside ,
ppl feel proud when they say to others that – my son went to Canada ….. ( whether he drives a taxi over there ) its not an issue
nothing wrong in Driving a taxi. Now a days, even educated people have started that here
Point here is to leave elders/family, that do during their old age.
Its a different matter, if there are least opportunities available here
But, too many companies/opportunities here……
Step 1 → Go abroad
Step 2 → Find a work or find a girl Lol
Step 3 (a) → Found a job?
→ Loot dollars and don’t spend anything
→ Keep saving and work like animals
Step 3 (b) → Found a girl?
→ Enjoy
→ Beg some money from her
Step 4 → Invest it in India
Step 5 → Problem solved.
@19 Female Gurgaon wrote:
Step 1 → Go abroad
Step 2 → Find a work or find a girl LolStep 3 (a) → Found a job?
→ Loot dollars and don’t spend anything
→ Keep saving and work like animalsStep 3 (b) → Found a girl?
→ Enjoy
→ Beg some money from herStep 4 → Invest it in India
Step 5 → Problem solved.
@sunnie it will works well in India every girls needs US boy
@sunnie wrote:
@hackerboys wrote:
bro i think outside India , the things would be changing and lyf would be different ,, ppl want to enjoy outside ,
ppl feel proud when they say to others that – my son went to Canada ….. ( whether he drives a taxi over there ) its not an issue
nothing wrong in Driving a taxi. Now a days, even educated people have started that here
Point here is to leave elders/family, that do during their old age.Its a different matter, if there are least opportunities available here
But, too many companies/opportunities here……
agree, but money plays imp role.. then elders… Recent generation thinks, they can buy love, care and affection using money…
@hackerboys wrote:
bro i think outside India , the things would be changing and lyf would be different ,, ppl want to enjoy outside ,
ppl feel proud when they say to others that – my son went to Canada ….. ( whether he drives a taxi over there ) its not an issue
@sunnie wrote:
@hackerboys wrote:
bro i think outside India , the things would be changing and lyf would be different ,, ppl want to enjoy outside ,
ppl feel proud when they say to others that – my son went to Canada ….. ( whether he drives a taxi over there ) its not an issue
cheers to Modi g , Cheers to India
and finally cheers to 4G by ambani
Quality of life in addition to money matters a lot.
You just can not earn what you earn in Arabian countries esp although quality of life is lowest.
But in developed countries like US and Europe(some) dollars plus life is worth going. No bribes, no competition for basic services, the roads and vehicles you just can not get here, much secured life if one takes precautions like do not resist when somebody robs u…so don’t carry valuables.
Yes better to go early and return when kids are around 10yrs.
I never heard of any parents saying no to their children from going to USA/EUROPE.
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
pretty good saying. " Reservation " based on race, religion, sex should end but hey, wait !! whom am I’m asking to end it ?? Actually most people enjoy or proud to be of " Reserved " community as they get lots of " Privileges " for being reserved. Having said that recently more and more people now are trying to be the part of reserved community than ever. I think open minded people with even a little wit should understand what I meant.
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
Truly said, students from general category has no option rather moving abroad… General category students has to extraordinary to be compete with Backward classes …. Take an example, IIT JEE mains cut-off this year Gen-105, OBC-70, SC-50, ST-44 https://www.google.co.in/?ion=1&espv=2#q=IIT+je... ….If u search, thousands of such examples u can find … An average student has no other option to search for opportunities outside India
@Vikash wrote:
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
Truly said, students from general category has no option rather moving abroad… General category students has to extraordinary to be compete with Backward classes …. Take an example, IIT JEE mains cut-off this year Gen-105, OBC-70, SC-50, ST-44 https://www.google.co.in/?ion=1&espv=2#q=IIT+je... ….If u search, thousands of such examples u can find … An average student has no other option to search for opportunities outside India
Make sense
100%
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
WTF, In Some Backward Caste they easily get loan for Abroad Study, this is also Bad
If someone manages to go abroad to a developed country for whatever reason, then returning makes sense only when one or more of the following are satisfied:
1. You have made enough money and now need not worry about such things anymore.
2. You went out for a particular goal/achievement and that is finished successfully.
3. You have people to take care of back home and for whom you have to return.
4. You went out to test untried waters and did not find things to your liking. Doesn’t matter because you have a comfortable environment back home to fall back upon.
5. You have a strong value system and/or self pride for all that is Indian. So you do not like and cannot digest when people throw racist comments at you or when blondes/redheads avoid you at the local pubs (obviously applicable only if you are male). You are utterly bored in the company of fellow Indians as surely you did not come so far only to mingle with them.Then you decide that no matter the costs you have to return home as that is where you are King.
EDIT: a) Point 5 is generally applicable when you are an average looking Indian and your identity sticks to your skin. However if you resemble people like Kabir Bedi, Zubin Mehta etc then you may be able to camouflage your identity and in that case your stay in such countries becomes much more pleasant and desirable.
b) Though at first glance my post appears to be slightly different from what OP is saying as whether it is nowadays at all justified to go abroad, then my answer to this can indirectly be found in my post as it maybe justified depending upon your goals, abilities, interests, your situation in your home country etc but how long you can stick around will depend entirely upon you and will vary from individual to individual as well as is country specific.
@Repost wrote:
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
WTF, In Some Backward Caste they easily get loan for Abroad Study, this is also Bad
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
+1
India is among those countries where atleast 3-4 and upto 25 people depend financially on one’s income. So to feed them someone has to go out. The salary being given here to managment also is not equal to accountants of other countries where they earn in dollars. Some people in India have their monthly income equal to few hours income in other countries. We have a big country with more bigger problems. The best thing other countries have is their People to Resource ratio is good and here it is worst.
Our economy is not export oriented albeit it imports more. So money is not divided well here. Also the genetic problem and greedy mindset makes situation even worst. Here one want to eat right of others.
When we compare ourselves to developed country a poor kind of feeling comes and when we compare to those like Pak, Bangladesh, SL, African Countries, Iraq etc. it gives pleasure that we are not in bad situation
The mindset of poor people here is more kids = more workers = more income. But it is poor+cointless kids = poor growing. Roadside workers in my city have 6-10 kids. Illiteracy killing them and they are killing economy as Govt is also helpless to feed the ever growing poor kids.
2 mins of enjoyment + 9 months of pain = 10-15 years of dependency.
@B@R_0_0_D wrote:long but a good read.@sunnie wrote: nothing wrong in Driving a taxi. Now a days, even educated people have started that here
Point here is to leave elders/family, that do during their old age.
Its a different matter, if there are least opportunities available here
But, too many companies/opportunities here……ONE EXTRA BEDROOM
As the dream of most parents I had acquired a degree in Software Engineer and joined a company based in USA the land of braves and opportunity. When I arrived in the USA it was as if a dream had come true.
Here at last I was in the place where I want to be. I decided I would be staying in this country for about Five years in which time I would have earned enough money to settle down in India.
My father was a government employee and after his retirement, the only asset he could acquire was a decent one bedroom flat. I wanted to do some thing more than him. I started feeling homesick and lonely as the time passed. I used to call home and speak to my parents every week using cheap international phone cards. Two years passed, two years of Burgers at McDonald’s and pizzas and discos and 2 years watching the foreign exchange rate getting happy whenever the Rupee value went down.
Finally I decided to get married. Told my parents that I have only 10 days of holidays and everything must be done within these 10 days. I got my ticket booked in the cheapest flight. Was jubilant and was actually enjoying hopping for gifts for all my friends back home. If I miss anyone then there will be talks. After reaching home I spent home oneweek going through all the photographs of girls and as the time was getting shorter I was forced to select one candidate.
In-laws told me, to my surprise, that I would have to get married in 2-3 days, as I will not get anymore holidays. After the marriage, it was time to return to USA, after giving some money to my parents and telling the neighbors to look after them, we returned to USA.
My wife enjoyed this country for about two months and then she started feeling lonely. The frequency of calling India increased to twice in a week sometimes 3 times a week. Our savings started diminishing.
After two more years we started to have kids. Two lovely kids, a boy and a girl, were gifted to us by the almighty. Every time I spoke to my parents, they asked me to come to India so that they can see their grand-children.Every year I decide to go to India But part work part monetary conditions prevented it. Years went by and visiting India was a distant dream. Then suddenly one day I got a message that my parents were seriously sick. I tried but I couldn’t get any holidays and thus couldn’t go to India. The next message I got was my parents had passed away and as there was no one to do the last rights the society members had done whatever they could. I was depressed. My parents had passed away without seeing their grand children.
After couple more years passed away, much to my children’s dislike and my wife’s joy we returned to India to settle down. I started to look for a suitable property, but to my dismay my savings were short and the property prices had gone up during all these years. I had to return to the USA.
My wife refused to come back with me and my children refused to stay in India. My 2 children and I returned to USA after promising my wife I would be back for good after two years.
Time passed by, my daughter decided to get married to an American and my son was happy living in USA I decided that had enough and wound-up every thing and returned to India I had just enough money to buy a decent 02 bedroom flat in a well-developed locality.
Now I am 60 years old and the only time I go out of the flat is for the routine visit to the nearby temple. My faithful wife has also left me and gone to the holy abode.
Sometimes I wondered was it worth all this? My father, even after staying in India had a house to his name and I too have the same nothing more.
- I lost my parents and children for just ONE EXTRA BEDROOM. **
Looking out from the window I see a lot of children dancing.
This damned cable TV has spoiled our new generation and these children are losing their values and culture because of it. I get occasional cards from my children asking I am alright. Well at least they remember me.Now perhaps after I die it will be the neighbors again who will be performing my last rights, God Bless them.
But the question still remains ’was all this worth it? ’I am still searching for an answer…………….!!!!
but being realistic also shows us that the restrictive system and restrictive mindsets (of our grooming, of our people) does hamper one from blooming.
though Westernsocieties and our own aren’t exactly comparable, but still the fact is that ours isn’t exactly the ideal place that encourages new ideas or innovation or experimentation the same way as some of those other societies where talent moves.
obviously, quality of life will be better in many ways at all those places where population concentration is less and infrastructure and resources are more evenly distributed and available.
so in that aspect, India can not and should not create an empty expectation (in the short run) to be at par with sparsely (but economically rich) Scandinavian countries (some of which have really good quality of life).
@chingumboy wrote:
India is among those countries where atleast 3-4 and upto 25 people depend financially on one’s income. So to feed them someone has to go out. The salary being given here to managment also is not equal to accountants of other countries where they earn in dollars. Some people in India have their monthly income equal to few hours income in other countries. We have a big country with more bigger problems. The best thing other countries have is their People to Resource ratio is good and here it is worst.
Our economy is not export oriented albeit it imports more. So money is not divided well here. Also the genetic problem and greedy mindset makes situation even worst. Here one want to eat right of others.
When we compare ourselves to developed country a poor kind of feeling comes and when we compare to those like Pak, Bangladesh, SL, African Countries, Iraq etc. it gives pleasure that we are not in bad situation
The mindset of poor people here is more kids = more workers = more income. But it is poor+cointless kids = poor growing. Roadside workers in my city have 6-10 kids. Illiteracy killing them and they are killing economy as Govt is also helpless to feed the ever growing poor kids.
2 mins of enjoyment + 9 months of pain = 10-15 years of dependency.
2 mins of enjoyment + 9 months of pain = 10-15 years of dependency
One shoud concentrate on oneself,you cannot change others
Expectations only lead to suffering,let everyone b free
@sunnie wrote:
@chingumboy wrote:
India is among those countries where atleast 3-4 and upto 25 people depend financially on one’s income. So to feed them someone has to go out. The salary being given here to managment also is not equal to accountants of other countries where they earn in dollars. Some people in India have their monthly income equal to few hours income in other countries. We have a big country with more bigger problems. The best thing other countries have is their People to Resource ratio is good and here it is worst.
Our economy is not export oriented albeit it imports more. So money is not divided well here. Also the genetic problem and greedy mindset makes situation even worst. Here one want to eat right of others.
When we compare ourselves to developed country a poor kind of feeling comes and when we compare to those like Pak, Bangladesh, SL, African Countries, Iraq etc. it gives pleasure that we are not in bad situation
The mindset of poor people here is more kids = more workers = more income. But it is poor+cointless kids = poor growing. Roadside workers in my city have 6-10 kids. Illiteracy killing them and they are killing economy as Govt is also helpless to feed the ever growing poor kids.
2 mins of enjoyment + 9 months of pain = 10-15 years of dependency.
2 mins of enjoyment + 9 months of pain = 10-15 years of dependency
any formula to be independent?
@Dealfinder wrote:
@radhe786 wrote:
If you’re from backward castes, stay here! There’s plenty of scope!
For ‘Open’ ones, most of the doors are ‘Closed’ here.
But if you belong to the Open category, move out as soon as possible.
+1
+1
@deepak38 wrote:
If someone manages to go abroad to a developed country for whatever reason, then returning makes sense only when one or more of the following are satisfied:
1. You have made enough money and now need not worry about such things anymore.
2. You went out for a particular goal/achievement and that is finished successfully.
3. You have people to take care of back home and for whom you have to return.
4. You went out to test untried waters and did not find things to your liking. Doesn’t matter because you have a comfortable environment back home to fall back upon.
5. You have a strong value system and/or self pride for all that is Indian. So you do not like and cannot digest when people throw racist comments at you or when blondes/redheads avoid you at the local pubs (obviously applicable only if you are male). You are utterly bored in the company of fellow Indians as surely you did not come so far only to mingle with them.Then you decide that no matter the costs you have to return home as that is where you are King.
EDIT: a) Point 5 is generally applicable when you are an average looking Indian and your identity sticks to your skin. However if you resemble people like Kabir Bedi, Zubin Mehta etc then you may be able to camouflage your identity and in that case your stay in such countries becomes much more pleasant and desirable.
b) Though at first glance my post appears to be slightly different from what OP is saying as whether it is nowadays at all justified to go abroad, then my answer to this can indirectly be found in my post as it maybe justified depending upon your goals, abilities, interests, your situation in your home country etc but how long you can stick around will depend entirely upon you and will vary from individual to individual as well as is country specific.
holy shi#t you can direct swades2
One reason: Quality of life
Wages in India are 1/10th of what is in Europe/US.
For investors getting work done from India is cheaper. So they come here.
For employees working outside India gets more more money. So they go out.
Everyone decides as per their priorities.
@panchabhut wrote:
Wages in India are 1/10th of what is in Europe/US.
For investors getting work done from India is cheaper. So they come here.
For employees working outside India gets more more money. So they go out.Everyone decides as per their priorities.
And expenses, when they go out
bro i think outside India , the things would be changing and lyf would be different ,, ppl want to enjoy outside ,
ppl feel proud when they say to others that – my son went to Canada ….. ( whether he drives a taxi over there ) its not an issue